odd cal. hunting

[jamaldog87]

does anyone use odd cal.s for hog hunting like 380,30cal, 22mag or any others?

[Oldtimer]

I'm not sure where you are going with this question.  If I had nothing else, I suppose I would use a bowl of cooked oatmeal on a hog, but to actually go out with a pocket pistol like a .380 to take on a hog would seem past foolishness.  That death certificate (and I don't mean the hog's) could be filled out as a suicide.  Now in .30 caliber, there is a world of difference between a .30 Carbine and a .300 Weatherby, for instance.  I would not use the .30 Carbine unless the only other choice was that bowl of oatmeal, but I would feel overgunned with a Weatherby.  In some areas, a .22 Magnum is the only choice, and the hunters using it are well aware of its limitations and hunt accordingly.  When I saw the post heading, I was thinking you might be concerned with an 8x56 Hungarian, or maybe a .360 Express, or other such rare caliber.  It sounds like you mean underpowered.  Let me know if I have read you wrongly.

[woodchukhntr]

The .380 would work if you plan on sticking it in the hog's mouth just before it gores you to death.  Kind of like a murder/suicide thing!  I guess if you were safely in a tree and could safely empty the gun into it, that would work too.  But unless you are stuck with a grossly underpowered gun and have to use it or starve to death, you need something that at least has a chance of humanely killing your prey.  The .30 carbine would be marginal if you know how to use it.  I would not use the.22 magnum unless I had to to comply with regulations.

My state allows the use of any centerfire cartridge for big game.  This includes the .22 Hornet.  the smallest caliber I would even consider is the .223 with 75 grain bullets.  Even then, I would only take shots at animals standing in the clear.

On the other hand, there are plenty of hunters who are grossly overgunned.  I was helping one guy at the range try to sight in a Remington .300 Ultramag.  He was flinching so badly that he could not even hit the target at 50 yd.  Yes you can use a .460 Weatherby fully loaded, but why?

[qajaq59]

Once you've seen a wild hog, with those filthy, germ laden tusks coming at you, you'll know why no one wants to use a .380 to hunt them. Could you kill him? Possibly. Are you likely to? NO!!!
What's more likely to happen is that you will end up badly injured, or dead, and someone else will have to deal with a wounded and dangerous animal. If you're going to hunt them, at least have enough respect for the hog to use the proper equipment.

[Qaz]

 Jamal- it must be real lonely down in the glades this time of year, still smoken? I hear the pythons are really putting the hurt on the gators down there. A 380 is just a lite 9mm and we all know what a good 9mm can do. I have a 30cal carbine and it will kill a hog, it is essentially a glorified 22mag and we all know that is plenty for hogs under 250lbs. I haven't had a chance to use my 17HMR, but I have seen some big hogs in Boar Hunter Magazine dropped with that round. You seen the Gamo hog hunt video haven't you. How much power does it really take to kill a hog?

[superdown]

jamaldog87 no disrespect intended but you seem to ask alot of very obviously naive questions you have a good number # of post's but your questions don't reflect that you have much experience have you ever been hunting or taken / harvested game before ? again i truly  mean no disrespect . Justin

[jamaldog87]

i have killed 2 with a 380auto handgun with FMJ rounds right behind the ear. Yes hogs are hard to kill but i just wanted to see if there was any odd cal. like 30cal carbine, 7x57 or 204 ruger.

[Wynn]

If you believe those are "odd" calibers/cartridges, then you need to get out more. All 3 are common as dirt. I own firearms chambered in all those cartridges. 7x57 is an excellent all round deer/hog cartridge. 204 and .30 carbine will work but certainly not my first choice. The only place I might even remotely consider a .380 would be in a feed lot. I frequently raise off trapped wild hogs and just use a .22 when slaughter time comes. At best, a 380 is a nominal self defense load and the only way I would carry it hunting would be as back up to a baseball bat.

[jamaldog87]

i have used it on 2 hogs with my 380auto. Just the other day on the outdoor life channel,VS, or maybe it was the Mens channel they had a show were a hunter killed a BIG hog(i think it was 100 or around there) with a small 32auto with mag-tech personal defense ammo. My 2 hog were 50 pounds or less(the sow i killed was 10 or 20). as far as odd cal. good the 7x57 loads are hard to find(there UMC, PMC bronze line, and Norma is listed as loader for it)  the 7mm class and 270 are about the same as for as game goes and i am not saying it a bad choose but it does come in as a odd cal. just like the 6.5x55.

[horsepower]

100 POUNDS!!  I didn't know hogs got that BIG.

Are you shooting hogs or javalina with your 380.

[jamaldog87]

no, the guy on freedom outdoors killed a 100 pound with a 32auto. Most hogs i see are 50 pounds or less. the male i killed was 50 pounds maybe( he was big) and the sow was 20 pounds( i ate her).  The use of ANY 9mm handgun( the 380,9mm and 38 shoot the same size bullet but the 9mm and 38 shoot a heavy bullet) is if e at best so a head shot at close range is the only way to kill them. the 380 with 102 gold saber or FMJ is the only thing that i have found will drop them.

[superdown]

Those aren't hogs those are piglets !!!

[S_J_KENNELS]

Those aren't hogs those are piglets !!!

I second that!!! Let us know how that 380 works when you come across a big boar in the 150 pounds and up range. Once you get out of the hospital LOL.

[jamaldog87]

Those aren't hogs those are piglets !!!

I second that!!! Let us know how that 380 works when you come across a big boar in the 150 pounds and up range. Once you get out of the hospital LOL.

A big hogs are not good eating,  2 that would be dumb to try to kill a 150class hog with anything less then a 7mm class or 270win.  if Jesus Walks with you then you will be safe.

[S_J_KENNELS]

[quote author=jamaldog87
A big hogs are not good eating,  2 that would be dumb to try to kill a 150class hog with anything less then a 7mm class or 270win.  if Jesus Walks with you then you will be safe.
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Again showing how little you know. Hogs well over 150 are harvested everyday with 220 swifts, 223, 243, 22-250, and so on. BIG HOGS if cleaned and cooked right are worth killing and eating. Hogs DO NOT need the heavy guns to be killed. SHOT PLACEMENT IS THE KEY. Do more research before you go making false statements again.

Also I believe Jesus has walked and will again, however until that time I will continue to believe in him and trust my own abilities, good dogs, and a sharp knife to harvest my hogs.

[jamaldog87]

[quote author=jamaldog87
A big hogs are not good eating,  2 that would be dumb to try to kill a 150class hog with anything less then a 7mm class or 270win.  if Jesus Walks with you then you will be safe.

Again showing how little you know. Hogs well over 150 are harvested everyday with 220 swifts, 223, 243, 22-250, and so on. BIG HOGS if cleaned and cooked right are worth killing and eating. Hogs DO NOT need the heavy guns to be killed. SHOT PLACEMENT IS THE KEY. Do more research before you go making false statements again.

Also I believe Jesus has walked and will again, however until that time I will continue to believe in him and trust my own abilities, good dogs, and a sharp knife to harvest my hogs.
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A i do know about hogs being killed with 22 class rounds but that just like using a 380 or 38 for them. the bullets are just don't have the thickness, it's just like use those for pronghorns for every one killed there 5 that are not found, it's your choose to use under-power guns. the cal. you say are use ever day for ares  are not even legal here for deer so why would i use them on hogs( you can't use any bullet that are 22 cal. as far as i know.)


this is from a hog hunting site

Wild hogs are not bulletproof and under most conditions are certainly not dangerous. But they are more strongly constructed and are tougher, pound for pound, than any deer. They also have thick hides underlain by layers of fat, so they rarely leave good blood trails. And they do have the capability to turn the tables if you make a mistake--especially if you have to follow a wounded pig into the thick stuff. It isn't common, but every year our local hospitals stitch up hunters whose encounters have been a little too close. The best way to avoid trouble is to shoot straight, use enough gun and use a tough bullet that will absolutely penetrate. "Enough gun" doesn't mean a cannon. I like the various .35 calibers from .358 Win. up through .35 Whelen and .350 Rem. Mag., but the .270s, 7mms, and .30 calibers are just fine if mated with a bullet designed to penetrate: Nosler Partition, Barnes X, Winchester Fail Safe, Swift A-Frame.


use enough gun for the size of the game.

[Wynn]

Jamaldog, your ignorance on firearms, ballistics and hunting are nothing short of amazing. I have killed dozens of hogs to 350 lbs with a 6.5 Swede as well as 22 hornet, 223, 22-250, 30 carbine, 7x57, 357, 44 mag, and assorted other 30 calibers, etc. No one I know considers those odd calibers or inadequate for hogs. Properly harvested and prepared, most can be eaten. I'm to old to chase the dogs now, but I've taken a few with a knife as well.

Correct me if I am wrong, but don't you live in Florida? The only calibers in Florida that are illegal to use on deer are rimfires, so your knowledge of hunting regulations seem lacking also.

The .380 at best is a point blank, last ditch self defense round. I would not own one. Full metal jackets are illegal for hunting deer in Florida and a poor choice for hogs or self defense in any caliber.

All 3 Pronghorns I have taken in Wyoming over the last 40 years dropped dead in their tracks. They were taken with a 25-06.

I have to ask? Where do you come up with all this nonsense. You ask questions and then argue with the answers that come from people with far more knowledge and experience than you. I've seen you list your age from 15 to 21 but I've only been on this forum for three years. Do you even have a hunting license? Have you taken the mandatory hunter education class required in Florida to get a license?

[NONYA]

  at least hes over insisting that hes killing them with his flippin slingshot!

[jamaldog87]

Jamaldog, your ignorance on firearms, ballistics and hunting are nothing short of amazing. I have killed dozens of hogs to 350 lbs with a 6.5 Swede as well as 22 hornet, 223, 22-250, 30 carbine, 7x57, 357, 44 mag, and assorted other 30 calibers, etc. No one I know considers those odd calibers or inadequate for hogs. Properly harvested and prepared, most can be eaten. I'm to old to chase the dogs now, but I've taken a few with a knife as well.

Correct me if I am wrong, but don't you live in Florida? The only calibers in Florida that are illegal to use on deer are rimfires, so your knowledge of hunting regulations seem lacking also.

The .380 at best is a point blank, last ditch self defense round. I would not own one. Full metal jackets are illegal for hunting deer in Florida and a poor choice for hogs or self defense in any caliber.

All 3 Pronghorns I have taken in Wyoming over the last 40 years dropped dead in their tracks. They were taken with a 25-06.

I have to ask? Where do you come up with all this nonsense. You ask questions and then argue with the answers that come from people with far more knowledge and experience than you. I've seen you list your age from 15 to 21 but I've only been on this forum for three years. Do you even have a hunting license? Have you taken the mandatory hunter education class required in Florida to get a license?

yeah your right about that rem-fire is the one.  If you have killed them with the 22 hornet, 223, 22-250 them OK , i have killed the small ones with my 380 with laser(yes laser are legal here and yes i know FMJ are illegal for deer)  if it was me i would not hunt anything that a 100 pounds with less then 6mm on up. the 380 is alright it's not the best but with Golden Saber you get 200 ft-lbs of power which is pretty close to the 38. FMJ only work well if you take head shots on hogs and if it was my butt on the line i was after something that was 350 pounds i would fell safer with a 270 in my hands then a 223.

[S_J_KENNELS]

I need some hip wadders as the bull chit is gettin deep. An on top of that alot of crawfishing an story changing. LMAO

Do us a favor. Next time get your facts and information correct before you post then have to retract/correct yourself. Also get with some real hog hunters to learn and don't believe all you read on the net and take it for gospel. As it only makes you look dumb.

As far as the 270 over the 223, while a valid point, I have to differ the 270 will not kill the hog any faster then the 223 will. On top of that in a critical spot I rather have a gun in my hands, or in the persons hands I am hunting with, that I/they are comforatable shooting, and can put the shot in accurately. Again the big guns do not kill any faster. Just make more noise

[jamaldog87]

fine whatever  I would still feel safer with a bigger gun if i was going after big game,anyway how about these for odd cal. 22k, 218bee, 219 zipper, 6.5x57 or 5.6x50 mag?