Author Topic: Two-stage Trigger for the Hunter Class gun (Read 1307 times)

chunter · « **on:** June 22, 2003, 09:33:13 AM »

I just got back from the Utah regional smallbore silhouette match and was impressed with one of the competitors new gun. He has an Anschutz 1700 with a two stage trigger. Apparently it now has become legal for a hunter gun to have such a trigger. I just wanted to know what others think of such rule changes and if you think that this will revolutionize the silhouette shooting world?

Casey

eroyd · « **Reply #1 on:** June 23, 2003, 03:39:11 PM »

I thought the whole idea of hunter class was so that Joe regular Guy could bring out his off the shelf hunting rifle and enjoy this sport in its original form without feeling intimidated with other competitors tricked out rifles.

Seems the way things are going, the only significant difference between hunter and silhouette class will be trigger and rifle weight.

kahuna · « **Reply #2 on:** June 24, 2003, 03:07:37 PM »

That is why there are 5 different classes.

ppk1 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 25, 2003, 02:55:14 PM »

kahuna, Can you please explain the 5 different classes ?

kahuna · « **Reply #4 on:** June 25, 2003, 04:30:59 PM »

You shoot your first match unclassifed or in master class.
After first match you are classifed by the number of hits you make.
Smallbore rifle B 0-14 A 15-20 AA 21-27 AAA 28-33 Master 34-40.
Hunter rifle B 0-14 A 15-19 AA 20-25 AAA 26-31 Master 32-40.
To move up in class from B to A you must shoot two higher scores
To move up in class for the rest it is three higher scores.

Rule books are avabilable from the N.R.A.

Larry

ppk1 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 26, 2003, 12:38:56 AM »

Kahuna,
I thought eroyd's question was refering to the classes of rifles not competitor levels. That's why I asked about the 5 classes you refered to.

JimInNJ · « **Reply #6 on:** June 26, 2003, 06:25:31 AM »

The five competitor levels should help people enjoy this sport with off-the-shelf hunting rifles. But I think it really depends on a person's personality.

I could understand some new folks getting discouraged if they see tricked out rifles dominating the higher classes. Until they learn enough to realize that if they traded rifles with a top shooter the scores probably wouldn't change much.

Seems to me that most of the debate about tricked out hunter guns involves high level competitors much more so than Joe regular Guy with his off the shelf rifle.

- Jim

eroyd · « **Reply #7 on:** June 26, 2003, 10:10:45 AM »

I agree that there would be little difference in myself shooting my humble CZ set up compared to some of those very expensive :eek: custom jobs. But I guess as you get up there, a match can be won or lost by one point and thats where even a slight edge could be the difference. I guess it's getting to decision time for me. I'm currently AAA in both classes with legs in Masters. (in rimfire)

Such a fun sport! I'm hooked. I've been selling hunting gear to set up rifles for center fire. Funny thing is, there isn't a center fire range set up within 300 miles of home.(Yet!) ...I'm not alone.

chunter · « **Reply #8 on:** June 26, 2003, 01:10:48 PM »

I sometimes wonder if these modification to the rules ever make people who have shot the Grand Slam or have shot the ever elusive perfect 40/40 match feel like their accomplishments are reduced.

I do have to agree though that if you trade rifles with the person who has the tricked out rifle that the scores do not always change. I think many people have fooled themselves by buying the latest and greatest only to find that the old gun still posting higher scores. Yet there is always that question as to what if. This game is a mental game at best, those who control their mind win the game.

I have loved to go to nationals where you see guns that you wonder how they ever past it with the judges, they have ever gidget and gadet known to the shooting world attached. Yet, as the scores post you sure see a lot of CZ rifles posting some high 30's. I have fallen prey to the fancy gun dilema and have decided on the old standby, the Anschutz. Yet as I am out shot by great competitors who have around $1000.00 more in their pockets by using CZs,Rugers,etc. I wonder...

bob259 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 06, 2003, 02:39:16 PM »

Quote from: chunter

I sometimes wonder if these modification to the rules ever make people who have shot the Grand Slam or have shot the ever elusive perfect 40/40 match feel like their accomplishments are reduced.

I do have to agree though that if you trade rifles with the person who has the tricked out rifle that the scores do not always change. I think many people have fooled themselves by buying the latest and greatest only to find that the old gun still posting higher scores. Yet there is always that question as to what if. This game is a mental game at best, those who control their mind win the game.

I have loved to go to nationals where you see guns that you wonder how they ever past it with the judges, they have ever gidget and gadet known to the shooting world attached. Yet, as the scores post you sure see a lot of CZ rifles posting some high 30's. I have fallen prey to the fancy gun dilema and have decided on the old standby, the Anschutz. Yet as I am out shot by great competitors who have around $1000.00 more in their pockets by using CZs,Rugers,etc. I wonder...

Man if this is true I'll look into getting my 1712 converted. For those of us suffering with bad carpal tunnel a 2# single break, no matter how crisp, trigger is almost impossible to make with out jerking the rifle. With a two stage trigger I can get my finger moving and that seems to help. :grin: