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How much ammunition
« on: December 02, 2007, 12:56:54 AM »
Hi

How much ammunition do you take with on your hunting trip?
You have a tag for one deer and you know your rifle is spot-on
with the ammunition your are taking with.

So in effect you should be fine with 4 to 6 rounds.
2 to 4 to check your rifle when you get there and 2 for
the hunt. One for the buck and maybe a follow-up shot.
20? 30? 40?




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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2007, 02:25:30 AM »
It depends on what you mean for a hunting trip. If you're going on an extended trip away from home, two boxes (40) is what I'd take just to be safe. When I go out near home for a day I carry 10-14 rounds.
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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2007, 02:48:32 AM »
Over the years, I've come to realize that I do a lot more hunting than I do harvesting of game.  At one time, I'd always take a box of cartridges or 20 rounds.  If I had a successful hunt I'd come out with 19.

For hunting here in the mountains where weight is very much a factor, I carry 4 rounds, one in the magazine, one in the chamber and one in each pocket.  Honestly, that's probably 2 to many rounds.

Over in middle Tennessee, where a fellow can kill 3 does per day, more ammo might be necessary.

That said, if a fellow wants to carry 2 boxes of shells with him then that's fine with me! ;)

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2007, 04:45:11 AM »
I don't think he's talking about packing around 40 rounds of ammo all day  ::)
When I travel, I'd usually carry 40 rounds because the boxes are set up for 20. Two boxes of 20.  Each box packed in a different duffle bag 'cause stuff do indeed happen. If you fly, you can't have ammo in the same case with the rifle.
When I hunt close to home, I do kinda like VC but I fill the mag up.

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2007, 05:54:19 AM »
Since I reload I carry a standard box of 50 (although if there's less that's OK) in the truck. While hunting 1 magazine and a magazine reload. Never needed it, but it's there.

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2007, 09:38:49 AM »
Back in the last Century when I was a fourteen-year-old kid I started the season with a box of 20.  I sighted in my iron-sighted rifle, which brought me down to approximately 15 rounds.  I shot a buck and put it down but it raised its head and I put a round into the neck. 

I then checked the sights on a couple of jackrabbits, and suddenly I was down to five rounds for the reminder of the season and I did not have the funds to buy additional ammunition.

A big storm had triggered a migration from high altitudes to lower elevations.  Mid-morning I spotted a group of four 4x4 blacktail bucks watching me.  They were across a canyon, because they were in a cluster I tried to neck shoot one.  I emptied my rifle and they stood there and starred at me. 

I was rather frustrated and on the hike out to the road I encountered two different 2x2 bucks.  When I hit the road I encountered another hunter.  I took him back to the last buck I had jumped and he collected it.

Lessons Learned:

1.   Work hard and buy lots of ammunition.
2.   Left eye dominate, but right-handed. With factory buckhorn sights I started shooting left-handed.
3.   While practice at fifty feet with a .22 is good, practice at 200 yards with the deer rifle is better.
4.   Installed Williams peep sight on rifle and shooting improved. 
5.   Was not blessed with fighter pilot vision and started wearing corrective lens.
6.   Earn money haying to buy reloading press, and components.  More ammunition resulted in more practice.
7.   Had a scope installed on the rifle a couple of years later and now shoot right or left-handed.

That experience should have been enough to encourage me to carry an adequate supply of ammunition.

But I flash back to my hunter safety course and the discussion on firing signal shoots when lost or injured.  Clearly one must have adequate ammunition to accomplish that goal.  During the hay day of the deer herd my patrol area went from a few locals to a large number of deer camps on opening weekend.  There were always concerns about over due hunters.  In most cases they all showed up by ten at night.  But there were a few that spent the night in the woods.

During the day a series of shoots would not get much attention that a series of shoots would get at night.  At the start we did not know if the hunter was lost or injured.  In a couple of cases the hunter had taken a deer and was waiting for his buddies to find him and carry the deer out.
Most of my deer kills have been with one shot including this year’s kill.  But I will never forget that early lesson.

And the California woods have become more dangerous.  It was bad enough with the locals growing dope, but now the Mexicans have been planting large gardens involving 30,000 or more plants.  These guys will kill you.  On the Shasta-Trinity N.F. a skull was found in an old marijuana garden with a bullet hole in front.  The dental work indicated the victim had the work done in Mexico.  In Eduardo County a Mexican guarding a garden planted on the hunter’s private land located next to the National Forest shot a young hunter, and his father.  This fall two bow hunters were threaten by a gringo growing dope on the National Forest.  The gringo fired a number of warning shots.  In Southern California a grower open fire on a raid team with a full automatic weapon.  He lost.

So the fourteen year-old is now a tired old man with bad knees.  The old man reloads his ammunition, and buys factory ammunition on sale.  He carries a daypack or military web gear with a butt pack.  Depending on the rifle it will be loaded with four or five rounds.  In addition there will be another fifteen rounds in his gear.  If the old man is hunting out of a camp away from home there will be green or red plastic box with additional ammunition in the pickup.  The old man just bought four boxes of ammunition on sale.  Hard to get over the trauma of running out of ammunition with bucks all over. 

The last time a deer required more then one shot was 25-years ago.  But now the old man has entered the high-risk age group.  Heart attacks kill more hunters then any other cause. 

What age group are you in?

 




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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2007, 09:44:47 AM »
I take 12 rounds...  That's how many slots I have in my ammo wallet.  Now, if I was flying with my firearms, I would probably take three times that many.  Who knows what the point of impact will be after the gun has been tossed a couple of times in the belly of an aircraft?

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2007, 11:06:34 PM »
If its an extended hunting trip i think 40 rounds would cover any re-sighting chores and have lots more for the hunt. If i am hunting around my house 5 rounds in my rifle.
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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2007, 06:10:23 AM »
If i am hunting around my house 5 rounds in my rifle.
This just not fair!!!


Coming back to my question - I now know I don't have to feel
alone, packing at least 40 rounds, knowing I will only shoot 4 maybe 5 shots!

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2007, 01:26:21 PM »
I take 20 rds with me-4 in chamber, a couple in my pocket for easy access :)  and the rest in the box in my backpack, just in case.

On a distant trip, I'll do the same, except have another 20 rd box back at camp, just in case.
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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2007, 01:40:48 PM »
This last elk hunt I took two boxes for each gun and packed it in two separate containers, in case something did not make it on the trip to Idaho. 
One day I put 10 rounds on one of pack horses and lost all but 4 along with some of our water when the horse flipped out and bucked all over the place.  I was happy I had a spare box back at camp.
Unless your flying and have a weight restriction carry an extra box.  I also did the same thing with batteries for the Flashlight, GPS, and range finder.

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2007, 03:16:37 PM »
  When i was flying in on extended hunts, i'd carry 20 for my rifle, (10 in the field) and 40 or so for my 44 mag. handgun.  (12 in the field)   If i was also trapping on the trip, i "may" also take a 22 handgun and 50 rounds for it...

  These days i hunt my own property, so in deer season i carry 4 rifle rounds and 2 shotshells...  I think the last 20 or so shots have been one shot kills, so no need to take too many along just for the day...

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2007, 06:24:47 PM »
I always "take" lots of ammo for rifle(s), shotgun, handgun(s) and air rifle when I "go" hunting or just camping.  You never know when an impromptu shooting match with friends will occur, when you'll run into a herd of rogue jack rabbits or when you just want some practice by yourself (there are lots of rocks out there that deserve killing). However, when actually hunting big game I carry the magazine full and a round in the chamber, 5 rounds in my shirt pocket and a plastic 10 round strip (the ones that factory ammo come in) in my back pack, 19 or 20 rounds total. I, only on occasion have used a second shot on big game,  mostly just use the one in the chamber.  Is that too much to carry? I don't know but I always feel better having and not needing than to need and not have. I probably got that attitude years ago in SE Asia where I learned one can never have "enough" ammo.

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2007, 04:16:40 AM »
Well I have a 10 round leather wallet which I take with me and I often carry a further 3 or 4 so when I get to the hunting place. I load the four in the rifle and still have the ten in the wallet. For extended trips I will take 40 or two boxes so I can comfortably check zero after my flights to the US in 2003 I used one fouling shot then 3 to check for zero. However it could have gone all wrong and required more so it was good to have them and not need them than not have them at all.

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2007, 05:00:51 AM »
I like to carry 10 rounds with me and 4 in my rifle. I may have 60 rounds at camp.
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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2007, 08:43:20 AM »


It's better to have it and not need it...than to need it and not have it...10 on me..2 full boxes at camp...

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2007, 08:57:51 AM »
Even on an afternoon sit, locally I carry 5 in the gun and 10 in my ammo wallet...When I go on my annual week long trip, I have 10 boxes in a ammo box...You never know when coyote (or 3) might show up, or other dangerous (even 2 legged) critters might try to harass you...A gun becomes a club when you have no ammo for it...

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2007, 09:35:04 AM »
When hunting around home 9 as I have one of those holders that slide over the stock and thats what it holds.When going out west I always loaded 40 rounds and took them all.
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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2007, 08:47:24 AM »


It's better to have it and not need it...than to need it and not have it...10 on me..2 full boxes at camp...

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Pretty much my thoughts exactly.

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2007, 10:49:02 AM »
What I've done in this regard has varied a great deal over the years. Long long ago as a lad hunting with a .22LR I generally spent the 40 to 50 cents a box of shorts cost and took the whole box with me. If I took a shotgun tho I'd do well to have money at ten cents each to buy ten of them so my ammo supply was more limited.

Later as an adult with money to buy ammo so that was not the limiting factor I moved to deer hunting and centerfire rifles. I'd normally take whatever the rifle I was using held and toss two or three more in each of my front pockets or a jacket pocket. No set number of rounds went with me really but there would be enough to reload had I emptied the rifle. The deer numbers were so low around here then that even shooting once would be a rare thing so more really wasn't needed even if I missed. Of course in those early long ago days I was prone to emptying the rifle if I saw one running by so more was a good thing.

Now I use the MTM Case Guard Ammo Wallets when I go hunting. For centerfire rifles they have spaces for nine rounds and I'll normally add a pair more to the side if there is room as there usually is for the rounds I choose to hunt with. I'll then take those two extras and one or two more from the pack to load the rifle and carry the rest in my pocket or backpack.

I pretty much NEVER take only a rifle so if I have a rifle I also have a handgun usually a revolver with me. I again have a wallet for them also and again take what is needed to load the revolver from it and stick the wallet with the rest into a pocket or backpack.

Most trips no rounds are fired and when game is shot seldom is more than one round needed so I figure I'm taking a grossly excessive amount of ammo with me but the MTM containers are a handy way to keep my ammo readily at hand with the guns I use to hunt with. I have a different container for each gun I might use and keep them close together.

I've tried lots of different means for carrying my rounds for hunting but for me nothing I've run across yet is more convenient than the MTM Ammo wallets.


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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2007, 02:12:39 PM »
When elk hunting, I carry 20 rounds to camp, and carry 10 if I'll be gone for the day. If I'm going out into the dark timber and may have to spend the night, I'll carry all 20. You never know if you may fall or knock your scope out of zero, and will have to sight it in again. You may get hurt and need to fire shots signal help. I'd rather carry to much than not enough.

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2007, 08:39:04 PM »
I usually take a half box along for centerfire season.  I have saved every belt bullet holder that came with factory ammo, some red, some black. 

Take some bullets out of the box, slide your belt thru right next to the knife and git.  Up to 10 rounds - all in a row, whether I need them or not.

For the .22, I take 4 - 7 shot clips of ammo.

For shotgun season...  probably a box or so.
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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2007, 03:40:32 AM »
I usually take 10 rounds into the field with me when I go hunting and at least 20 when I go on a hunting trip.

I take pride in my firearms and do not rough house them.  I do not load all of my possessions on top of my rifle when I go to camp.  As a matter of fact, my rifle is the last thing to go into the truck and the first thing to come out of the truck.

Every deer I shot this year was with one shot to the neck.  So like I told my dad when he complained about me using $14 a box ammo.  20 rounds equals 20 dead deer.  Thats about 75 cents each.  What a bargain.

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2007, 10:48:21 AM »
I usually take way more than I need.  Of course, I feel I need only one shot but none the less I prefer a couple of boxes of centerfire rifle when I go, whether near or far. 

I always have bunches, or boxes of additional ammo on board for the shotgun so there is no shortage of either shot or slugs.

I really load up on pistol and revolver ammo though because after hunting is over, hunting season that is, target practice begins and ya can't be low on ammo when target practice begins.  Mikey.

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2007, 01:26:41 AM »
Better to have too many than not enough.  My friend's son lost a nice buck that he hit and dropped, when it got up and ran he shot his 2 remaining shots at it.  He gave it some time to set down, and started following it.  He didn't find it, and couldn't do anything even if he found it still alive.  He was out of the hunt for the day since he was using a Winchester 94 in .32 Winchester and nobody else had ammo.

On the other hand, there is no reason to look like a Mexican revolutionary with crossed bandoleers!  After all, we are hunting, not at war.

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2007, 02:17:35 AM »
I usually take 1 or 2  boxes of ammo for each rifle that I take with with me on any hunting trip. You never know what will come up.

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2007, 04:36:14 AM »
When elk hunting, I carry 20 rounds to camp, and carry 10 if I'll be gone for the day. If I'm going out into the dark timber and may have to spend the night, I'll carry all 20. You never know if you may fall or knock your scope out of zero, and will have to sight it in again. You may get hurt and need to fire shots signal help. I'd rather carry to much than not enough.

Pretty much the way I see it. In addition, I will pack ammo in at least 2 places when I make the journey on an an out State trip in case I were to forget or misplace some ammo. I use reloads & I would not want to take a chance that I would have to sight in with factory stuff.
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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2007, 08:58:31 AM »
Always the same...40 rounds for each gun in my duffle.  Just in case I need to rezero a scope.  When hunting, enough for one loaded mag and what ever my belt carrier holds, so about 14 rounds in all generally.  I don't think it's too many and there's no particular reason why this is the right number for me.
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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2007, 12:28:35 PM »
I am about to head to the camp for a week and this is what I have packed. 2 Cf Rifles 20 rounds each.  17 hmr 100 rounds. 12gauge 4 boxesof shell. When i leave the camp in the morning with a rifle I load my Mag and leave the rest. I can't remember ever needing more than 4 rounds in a day. I am not hunting in deep wilderness so I cut the weight.

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Re: How much ammunition
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2007, 10:18:31 AM »
My last three out of state trips required one bullet each.  I took 40 however.  I did have an interesting experience once in Idaho.  I went to the range and the guide put up a target with four square bulls eyes, arranged in a square.  Several other hunters went before me.  When my turn came, I selected the bottom left bulls eye and fired what looked to be a perfect shot.  The guide returned from the target and instructed me to move my scope 16 clicks to the right and 8 clicks up (or something like that).  I did as he advised and prepared to shoot the target again.  Before firing I stated that this time I would be shooting the top left bull.  He yelled WAIT A MINUTE.  After discovering our misunderstanding, I returned the scope to its original settings and put the bullet exactly above the bull.  I only fired those two shots, but I was later uncomfortable about the scope settings.  A buck appeared at 125 yds and all was well.  Whew!