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.44 MAG to .444 Marlin Rechamber
« on: December 08, 2007, 12:02:47 PM »
Is this possible? A good idea on a circa 1996 SB2 Action? Anybody had any success with it?

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Re: .44 MAG to .444 Marlin Rechamber
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2007, 12:10:22 PM »
Is the .444 just a lengthened .44 Mag??


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Re: .44 MAG to .444 Marlin Rechamber
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2007, 12:16:28 PM »
H&R won't fit a .444 barrel to a frame made prior to '99, if that means anything to ya, they changed the heat treating on the late model frames, all of the * marked barrels on the accessory list can't be fitted to older frames, the .444 is one of em.

Spanky, that's how the .444 came about, but the chambers are different diameters, the 445 Supermag is a popular self rechamber for the 44mag.

Ammoguide's description on the .444....
The .444 Marlin was introduced in 1964 in the Marlin Model 336 lever-action rifle.

In the late 1950's, early 1960's, the .44 Magnum was experiencing moderate success in short, light lever-action rifle chamberings. However, hunters were soon asking for more power than the handgun-based round could provide. Marlin's answer was to fundamentally stretch the .44 Magnum case to provide over twice the powder capacity.

The result is a cartridge that shoots the same 240 grain .429-inch bullets as the .44 Magnum, at a nominal 500 fps faster muzzle velocity. However, due to it's low sectional density characteristics, the standard 240 grain bullet is not suitable for game larger than whitetail deer. Such applications are best left to more modern 265 and 300 grain bullets specifically developed for larger North American game.

Maximum working pressure for the .444 Marlin is 44,000 c.u.p. with maximum product average pressure of 47.200 c.u.p. The 240 grain bullet exits the Model 336 at 2350 fps and 2930 ft-lbs of energy.
 


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Re: .44 MAG to .444 Marlin Rechamber
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2007, 12:20:51 PM »
Thanks for the info. Tim.


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Re: .44 MAG to .444 Marlin Rechamber
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2007, 02:14:39 PM »
Thanks Tim.

Think I will just wait and save the $ to buy a .444 Complete gun.

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Re: .44 MAG to .444 Marlin Rechamber
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2007, 04:51:15 PM »
The .444 Handi will be available in synthetic stock next year as well as the current wood stocked model. ;)

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Re: .44 MAG to .444 Marlin Rechamber
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2007, 06:13:17 PM »
The 445 is a lengthened 44mag - being straight walled.   The 444 has case dimensions near the rim and base the closer match the 45LC.  Its a tapered case that if blown straight out is 45 cal.   Sorta like if you blew out the 45-70 you'd get a 475 cal case.

A blown out 444 is a 450 Mongo.
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Re: .44 MAG to .444 Marlin Rechamber
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2007, 03:19:20 AM »
Actually I don't believe that the .445 SuperMag is a blown out .44.  The case head dimensions are different.

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Re: .44 MAG to .444 Marlin Rechamber
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2007, 04:40:01 PM »
Actually I don't believe that the .445 SuperMag is a blown out .44.  The case head dimensions are different.

Its not a blow out case, its a beefed up stretched 44mag case.  A 444 chamber is too big in diameter for the 44 mag and 445 supermag.  You can have ruptured casings if you fire a 44 or 445 in a 444 chamber.  Freebore is a minor issue, being some of the most accurate rifles made have a varying degree of free bore(Weatherby).  The 444 has a long taper to it, well the 44 and 445 have a slight taper as well - just not as pronounced.

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Re: .44 MAG to .444 Marlin Rechamber
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2007, 04:43:36 PM »
The .44mag. is the same case head dimensions as the .445 SM, just the length is different.
The .444 has a larger head.
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