Author Topic: If you were setting up a dedicated wild boar rifle, what would it be? (Read 14310 times)

Dee · « **Reply #30 on:** December 13, 2007, 01:29:37 PM »

Weeeell, I believe what SwampThing762 said was the Nagant was a good BEGINNING hog rifle, and it's a fair statement. One man's junk is another man's treasure. While I have never owned a Nagant, and don't want to, I don't particularly care for your picks either. I would look for a good lever, in what ever caliber I wanted, and buy used if it was a money issue.
None of YOUR picks meet his POSTED requirements, or leanings either.

jgalar · « **Reply #31 on:** December 13, 2007, 05:26:35 PM »

I agree the Mosin Nagant cocking knob kinda sucks, but you can get a pull ring cocking piece. The pull ring is similar to what is on the K31 Swiss rifle and makes the safety actually easy to use.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #32 on:** December 13, 2007, 05:27:03 PM »

OK fair enough about the Nagant. I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my comments on it. But like all the other posts here, it is my opinion, in an opinion question.
As far as not picking a rifle that meets the criteria... Read my first post.
I suggested my choice, told him what I use and why. Then still offered 2 rifles that met what he was asking for and even gave websites where he could find the 35 Whelen in an auto loader and a platform for the 358 that was his second choice.
As far as Lever vs. Bolt ...I would pick a bolt 95% of the time. It's what I grew up shooting and I like the versatility of the game that can be taken with one. I also hunt White tail deer, Black bear, Elk,, and mule deer and want a rifle that could pull more than one duty in case a trip comes up. I like the bigger bores and heavier bullets. Again personal preference for a hunting rifle.
As far as the lever guns go, I'm not saying my 1895 Marlin would not do the job on game but I have not shot it enough to be proficient past 150 yards and missed a nice deer about 220 yards in a bean field on the family farm in NC. I also am not wired right to operate the lever and still look down the sights like I can with the bolt rifles. The 95 is heavier than my bolt rifle. If someone offers me enough for the 95, that $ will be used as a down payment on a Ruger bolt in the new 338 Fed as there are no used guns around yet. I may have to wait a few years to get one.
I also grew up hunting in the general area of NY where NYHUNTER lives and know the terrain. Heavy pine and hard woods where a far shot for deer is 75 yards while on stand and maybe 250 if you have two or three fields lined up. I started hunting with a borrowed Marlin 336 in 30-30 but soon after received a bolt action .308 that has killed most of my whitetails. When I was in college the farm was close, tags were cheap and I fed the rugby team with deer. 6 - 10 deer a year was not uncommon. My bolt is actually shorter than my uncles Win 94 in 30-30 with a 24" barrel.
Next year I hope to hunt with him on his lease outside of Ft Worth and see what some of Texas hunting is all about and get an idea of what your hunting looks like and why you would pick a 30-30 for hogs and black bear. He has gone to bolt rifles as well in either 243 or 270.
McDuck.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #33 on:** December 14, 2007, 01:56:01 AM »

or the Springfield socom !

rickt300 · « **Reply #34 on:** December 14, 2007, 04:36:19 AM »

I have been working on the perfect hog rifle for a while. I thought the 358 BLR was it. I topped it with a Mueller 2x7 Multi shot and used it for a couple of years. The cartridge is perfect, recoil is reasonable and there are good standard bullets available for it. The scope is perfect for night hunting. Now for the buts. I really find that I don't like detachable magazines. fishing one out of your pocket in the dark, blowing the dust out of it and clicking it into place just takes too much time and makes too much noise. I can more easily and quietly get rounds out of my shirt pocket and put them in the magazine of any of my Mausers. If I need one round fast I am way ahead of the BLR. The rifle is short, light, accurate and handles just fine. I bought the 444 Marlin because it is way easier to get a single round into and tho it is a bit longer and heavier it is easier to shoot offhand than the BLR. The 35 Whelen is on a M98 action in a synthetic stock, fits me perfectly, has a great trigger and is a 358 super plus P. I am about to put the Mueller scope on the Whelen and shorten it's 24 inch barrel to 20 inches. Then I will have "MY" perfect hog gun. It will also be a pretty good timber elk rifle or Black bear gun.

SwampThing762 · « **Reply #35 on:** December 14, 2007, 03:14:42 PM »

urrent hog guns....NEF HandiRifle in 500 S&W, and one in 44 rem Mag.. Goa head, piggy.......make my day.....

Dee · « **Reply #36 on:** December 15, 2007, 09:16:36 AM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on December 14, 2007, 01:56:01 AM

or the Springfield socom !

Now that would be a high class (and high priced) hog gun.

tomzuki · « **Reply #37 on:** December 15, 2007, 09:53:40 AM »

I just bought a PUMA '92 in .454 Casull for the coastal pig hunting here. The shots are fast and relatively short, Under 100 yards. Cant see any farther in the Oak forest. I shoot 34 gr. of H110 behind a 265 gr. lead bullet that I cast. Sure glad that they sell this PUMA with a good recoil pad!

Pharmboy · « **Reply #38 on:** December 15, 2007, 05:11:35 PM »

I have shot several hogs and I think the heavier bullets work the best. I like this ruger 44mag carbine with the 240gr XTP bullets.

Pharmboy

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #39 on:** December 17, 2007, 02:18:58 AM »

been looking at the socom , trying to justify getting it ! but it is high ! best price so far $ 1300.00

dougk · « **Reply #40 on:** December 23, 2007, 03:28:07 AM »

In my opinion a combination 12 ga over a 30-06 with a Leupold 2-7 VX-I is a great hog gun.

With the Baikal which was regulated perfectly for the shotgun at 50 yards and the 30-06 at 100 yards I was using screw in chokes, with one being a rifled slug. The problem was I could not easily switch to 00 Buck.

Tha Valmet 12 ga over 9.3x74r is the perfect hog gun. I have it set up for shotgun to 75 yards and the 9.3x74r 1 inch high at 100 yards. With a Mueller scope, I really like the reticle

wsmitty01 · « **Reply #41 on:** December 26, 2007, 04:02:05 AM »

From the buggy or blind, anything I got for deer will work..from the ground, any open sighted fast shooting large caliber carbine!!! NO SCOPES when hunting on the ground!!! Pigs are damn fast and meaner than hell when cornered or they feel threatened. I hunt hogs here in Florida, I've seen the damage they do to both people and dogs. I've hunted them with knife, pistol, and bow. My next hog-hunter is going to be a Puma 92, 18-20" barrel in 44 mag. This is what my wife will use if not hunting from the stand or buggy, she will have to practice long and hard at moving targets from all ranges before I let her on the ground for hunt and stalk!! In the palmettos, I had to drop a 150# or more boar less than 15 yards away with my Ruger SBH in 44 mag,,,went down fast after the 2nd shot hit the brain, (I was too busy loading my drawers to hit him the first time). WHERE and HOW you hunt them will determine how to build the ideal gun, with catch dogs, I ALWAYS use a knife! Way, too dangerous on the dogs with a gun! All the guys that want to hunt them with 22s and 17s can come on down here in Florida and get down on the ground with them and I'll take them out, but I get the U-Tube rights on video when things don't go right! I wish I had a camera when my brother killed a 180 pounder between the eyes ata bout 10 yards with his bow, he'll never forget that adreneline rush!!!

drdougrx · « **Reply #42 on:** December 26, 2007, 04:21:02 AM »

Still like my Ruger #1 in 45/70 with a 2.5x Leupold scout scope in off set mounts using 350gr speer sp at 1800fps. It's in my avatar.

kyelkhunter3006 · « **Reply #43 on:** December 26, 2007, 10:24:12 AM »

Quote from: dougk on December 23, 2007, 03:28:07 AM

In my opinion a combination 12 ga over a 30-06 with a Leupold 2-7 VX-I is a great hog gun.
With the Baikal which was regulated perfectly for the shotgun at 50 yards and the 30-06 at 100 yards I was using screw in chokes, with one being a rifled slug. The problem was I could not easily switch to 00 Buck.

Tha Valmet 12 ga over 9.3x74r is the perfect hog gun. I have it set up for shotgun to 75 yards and the 9.3x74r 1 inch high at 100 yards. With a Mueller scope, I really like the reticle

Which scope is this? I like that reticle too.

rickt300 · « **Reply #44 on:** December 27, 2007, 04:58:26 AM »

That's A 2x7 Mueller multi-shot. I have one on my 358 and like it a lot.

hicntry · « **Reply #45 on:** December 27, 2007, 03:32:20 PM »

The perfect hog rifle?? I would take the 1995 Marlin with buck horns or peep sight or the Ruger SBH Hunter .44 mag with 300 gr and up in the pistol because that is what I use. I consider it perfect because they never get up and run away but they do always go down. I am having trouble picturing the 200 yard shots on hogs because they are about the easiest animal to walk up on if you take your time. Heck you don't even need any cover to hide behind. There are a lot of guns that would do just as well but, don't need long range rigs and don't need glass. JMO pof course. I have killed them with rimfires and such but, perfect they are not.

STUMPJMPR · « **Reply #46 on:** December 28, 2007, 07:25:42 AM »

I use a winchester 94 in 30-30winchester....Its a light and inexpensive rifle....With plenty of power in the ranges i hunt...follow up shots are quick....it holds 6 rounds i think.......Point blank to 100 yards or so....Ammo is cheap....I never had one even try to get up after being shot with it.....too bad they quit making them....I also use a scope on mine just so i can pick my target easier....I don't like to shoot boars

Bluegunner · « **Reply #47 on:** December 29, 2007, 06:14:41 AM »

Last spring I took four hogs from 160# to 320# with my 22-250. I load a 53gr. Barnes TripleShock solid copper bullet pushed with 35gr. of Varget and it knock the stuffing out of the hogs that I shot, none of them went more than 20 feet and they were all lung shots. Would not recommend this for the heavy bushed forested area, but where it fairly open it works great. Also using a varmint load would not be something I would recommend, but the solid copper Barnes TS puts them down with no trouble. Posting pics of 3 of the 4, couldn't find the fourth picture easily.

Mad Dog · « **Reply #48 on:** December 29, 2007, 06:42:28 AM »

I've used a lot of different guns to shoot hogs with, including MLs and bows. My Marlin .45-70 guide gun is my go to choice for about everything I hunt with a centerfire rifle. Below is a hog I took with the GG. I am also taking it to Africa, next summer, for a plains game hunt, and it will beloaded with 300 gr. nosler partitions.

Mad Dog

old4x4 · « **Reply #49 on:** December 31, 2007, 12:54:01 PM »

My 20" barrelled Ruger Alaskan in 375 Ruger with a Leu VX-II 1-4x20. That's what it's for, as well as everything else!!

Zachary · « **Reply #50 on:** January 04, 2008, 05:00:50 AM »

Don't laugh, but my honest to goodness dedicated Wild Boar rifle is a customized Winchester M70 Stainless in .375H&H Mag with a 1.5x - 4.5x-32mm Bushnell Elite 3200 firefly with quick detachable Warne Rings. I primarily use 300 Grain Nosler Partitions or 300 Grain Federal Hi-Shock Round nose bullets in Federal Factory ammo.

Never lost a hog with that gun yet.

Zachary

Pharmboy · « **Reply #51 on:** January 05, 2008, 03:30:40 PM »

Another Post,
This subject is rather dear to my heart. I was raised a "pig farmers son" in Iowa. I left the farm to go to college and be somebody. The farm was not all that bad. I posted earlier about the Ruger 44 mag carbine which I thought was a great dedicated wild boar rifle. I did some soul searching and being that I live in Southwestern Oklahoma, I have seen some real big PIGS. I have decided to go with the .458 SOCOM. It is a 45/70 external ballistic wise in an AR15 platform. It shoots 300 grain bullets @ 2000 ft/sec as fast as you can pull the trigger. Not that the real big pigs hang out together like a "gang" or anything, I just like the fact that it is a magazine fed semi-automatic rifle in a platform that has been around for many years. In fact, the Socom, even uses the same magazines as the AR15/M16. Most of my shots are up close and personal. So, if I was to set up a dedicated wild boar rifle I would choose:

458 SOCOM
RRA A4 Upper
AR15 Lower (Build it yourself)
20 Round Mag (Holds 7 Rounds .458 Socom)
Detachable Carry Handle
AR15 Tactical Mount
4X or 6X Fixed Power Scope
Yankee Hill Flip Up front Sight
Xenon Light (Legal in Texas)

Pharmboy

30-06man · « **Reply #52 on:** January 05, 2008, 03:37:55 PM »

T/c R55 All Weather Stainless in .22long rifle or 17mach 2. That's about what everyone uses on the 300+lbs hogs in the low state. I might would go with a 17rem at the biggest. I would mount a Bushnell Elite 3200 on it.

Pharmboy · « **Reply #53 on:** January 05, 2008, 04:04:53 PM »

No offense 30-06 Man,
I think you would be a little under gunned for what this guy is asking about. If you like to use such "little" firepower then maybe you should hunt with the guys who use knives and dogs. We shot a big hog with 12 gauge and 17 HMR (there was two of us) at about 35 yards standing under a feeder. We were actually wanting to get a little one to put in one of those turkey fryer baskets, but this big #300 pounder came in. We took out his front end with the shotgun and I tried to put 3 rounds of the HMR behind his ear. He went down but not out. My buddy was going to finish him off with his knife but when he straddled the boar to finish him off, all heck broke out. We don't take that combo anymore.

Pharmboy

30-06man · « **Reply #54 on:** January 05, 2008, 04:10:47 PM »

I have taken a 300pounder with a .22 behind the ear. He went down fast. I wouldn't take anything bigger. I have taken the with Knifes and its fun. I didn't hunt mine under a feeder but we used dogs and took them. Talk about a rush. If I was to use something bigger It would be a 357 in my pistol just to take one with a pistol. I have all confidence in that .22 though.

Pharmboy · « **Reply #55 on:** January 05, 2008, 04:27:06 PM »

30-06 Man,
Just wondering. Was the 300 lb hog you took with the 22lr being held with the dogs?. I could understand that, which would give you almost point blank range. I always carry my AMT 22 Mag just in case I have to use point blank range. We killled hogs on the farm with our 22's when we need to put them down for whatever reason. I would feel real confident with a .357 pistol but this person wants to know about a "dedicated" wild boar rifle. I like to hunt at night for coyotes and use the 22 Mag rifle which I think would be okay for hogs at short range but I would not recommend this for a dedicated wild boar rifle.

Pharmboy

30-06man · « **Reply #56 on:** January 05, 2008, 04:29:46 PM »

That is my dedicated hog rifle and no he wasn't held with the dogs but he wasn't moving fast either. For him I would go with a 357 in something like a Henry Lever action. Its the best on the market in levers today.

Pharmboy · « **Reply #57 on:** January 05, 2008, 04:43:43 PM »

30-06 Man,
If you don't mind me asking. Just how many feral hogs have you taken with the TC 22 and what do you mean by that is what most people use in the low 48 state?

Pharmboy

30-06man · « **Reply #58 on:** January 05, 2008, 04:48:46 PM »

Lower SC. All the people I work with and all my friends and most people at the gunshop use a .22. We have Russian Hogs also. Not as many feral. I use a Marlin .22 I was speaking of my dream setup. I have taken 6 with it. I have taken 2 with a 30-06 and a few with a 20ga. When I said low state I meant low state SC. Sorry about the SC Redneck talk.

Pharmboy · « **Reply #59 on:** January 05, 2008, 05:16:23 PM »

That's cool,
I was just amazed how you are the 30-06 guy and tallk about the 300 wsm and the 45/70 on tonight"s forums and still think the TC 22 would be the go to rig for the wild boar. It just doesn't seem that you give them much respect. I would invite you to come and hunt with us and shoot one with your 22 lr and go in and pull it out. I do not want to disrespect you but what do you think you need those big bores for if you think you can take a wild boar with a 22lr. What do you hunt black bears with?

Pharmboy