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Offline Treborwolf

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Scope Mount - Weaver Converta-Mount Bracket
« on: December 22, 2007, 11:21:22 AM »



   I have a Remington 870, was thinking of getting the Weaver Converta-Mount Bracket so I may put a scope on it, any comments about this mount. Seems very easy to remove your scope when I need the gun for small game or water fowl.

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Re: Scope Mount - Weaver Converta-Mount Bracket
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2007, 07:01:03 PM »
The Weaver Converta Mount is easily the best side/saddle mount type scope base setup you can put on a shotgun in my opinion. We've had them on an Ithaca 37(not made anymore), and a Remington 1100 for prolly over 10 years now. Just don't buy the 'see under' model, as your cheek is to far off the stock to see though the scope. The scope can be taken on and off and it holds zero, I've tested it, despite their claims that it does, it does, I don't trust very much, LOL. Probably the best testament I can give to the converta mount are these 2 pics. My son was hunting pheasants all through november, with the Ithaca 37:
 

So in early December, the Sunday night before deer season opened on Monday, I asked him if he was going to switch to the slug barrel, and put the scope on, or wait till Monday morning when it was time to head out. He did so, and the following Thursday morning shot a spike, about 50 yards, sharp quartering away shot, right through the lungs, deer went about 20 yards and ran out of blood, what more can you ask for?
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Re: Scope Mount - Weaver Converta-Mount Bracket
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2007, 03:36:03 PM »
Treborwolf,

The Convert-a-Mount is Ideal for an Ithaca, since the barrel and receiver use the interrupted threads to lock themselves together. The Remingtons usually don't fare quite as well, unless you pin the barrel to the receiver. That said, my son has a saddle mount on his 870 and it is very accurate and returns to zero, but not as fast and simple as the Convert-a-Mount. Not all 870 barrels and receivers lock up as tight as my sons does though.

My first slug gun was not even a slug gun at all, a brand new 1975 12ga Ithaca/SKB XL-900 autoloader that my dad bought me for my 14th birthday. I later tried a Tasco side mount on that, but didn't work very well due to a poorly designed mount. The barrel and receiver has the tightest tolerances of any repeating shotgun I have ever owned or handled. I also tried one of the receiver mounts on a brand new 1100 LT 20 Slugger (beautiful gun) back in '88, couldn't get that thing to hit a 55 gallon drum at 50 yards, all because Remington's machining tolerances were way to broad (very sloppy). in '89 I traded it for an Ithaca Model 87 Deerslayer Combo (rifled), but had the receiver tapped. It was very accurate, but was not made to the quality (jammed alot) that the old mans Model 37 was. Traded that in and bought a Mossberg Model 9200 Slugster Combo that has the cantilever mount rifled barrel. This was and still is a very accurate setup. Now I shoot a 20ga H&R/NEF Ultra Slug Hunter LE, it is the best Slug Gun I have ever owned or shot.

I also have a Browning Sweet Sixteen Buck/Bird Combo, but that will never wear a scope.

Whatever mount you decide to go with on your 870, the weakest link in your accuracy will likely be the barrel/receiver lock-up. Hope yours is tight and not sloppy. The Convert-a-Mount is the least intrusive of the receiver mounts, allowing you to switch from Buck to Bird in the quickest amount of time. I think you are on the right track, I went the expensive route. Just wanted you to know what didn't work as well also. IMO the best mounts are either the cantilever mounts or a weaver style rail mounted directly to the barrel like my USH.

Also watch out for the Weaver PLASTIC (Made in China) saddle mounts that Wally World (Weaver Brand) and Gander Mountain (Guide Series Brand) are selling. Those MAY be close enough for a turkey load, but would have to be a joke for a slug gun. Still can't believe it, and I seen them at both places with my own eyes.


Winkman,

Just in case you did not already know it "Ithaca Gun Company acquired the assets of Ithaca Guns USA, LLC in June of 2007". They are once again making the Model 37's in several different configurations. Featherlight, Ultralight, Deerslayer II, and Deerslayer III. They are located in Upper Sandusky, Ohio. Enjoy!

http://www.ithacagun.com/index.html

http://www.ithacagun.com/firearms.html
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Re: Scope Mount - Weaver Converta-Mount Bracket
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2007, 05:22:36 PM »
Busta,
     Thanks, I was aware of Ithaca's revival and relocation, I spoke with them over the summer in Ohio, and had a very pleasant and informative conversation with them. I wish them well in their future endeavors, as I would hate to see the production of such a fine gun come to an end, but I won't say more, as I don't want to hijack the thread.

     What I was unaware of was the converta mount being made of plastic, it shocks me that they would do so, but again, Weaver isn't really Weaver anymore as I knew it, being bought and sold under multiple umbrellas, I guess the profit margin is the bottom line. Thank you for the info. I have a friend locally who expressed interest in a converta mount, I am going to email him a link to this thread, so he is aware of the plastic version.
Garry
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Re: Scope Mount - Weaver Converta-Mount Bracket
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2007, 05:53:03 PM »
wink_man,

Sorry for the misunderstanding, the plastic mounts I seen were the SADDLE type that are shaped like a U and go from one side of the receiver to the other. I haven't actually seen a Convert-a-Mount for sale in quite a few years. Are they still making them? I will have to do a search and see what I come up with.

Treborwolf,

Sorry I got a little sidetracked, but I also wanted you to be aware of the good and bad of these types of mounts. If you can get the Original Convert-a-Mount, I think it will serve you well.

Found some. Some are regular low, and some are see-under. Sponsor Link.
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=0002948342

First one is regular low, second one is see-under. **Good Prices though.**
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http://www.outdoorsuperstore.com/product.asp?manufacturer=WEAVER&model=SHOTGUN+CONVERT%2DA%2DMOUNT&cat=30506

http://www.nextag.com/Weaver-Hunting-Convert-a-582207795/prices-html?nxtg=291c20a24051f-7E86994B50BE1453

More than you can shake a stick at.
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Re: Scope Mount - Weaver Converta-Mount Bracket
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2007, 06:12:28 PM »
Busta,
     Yes, the converta mount is still being made, but not for the variety of guns it used to be made for, here's a link:

http://www.weaver-mounts.com/products/shotgunAndPistol.aspx

Midsouth shooters carries it:

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=029-48870&fromsearch=yes&submit=GO

They just don't specify if it's the 'standard', or 'see under' model, so I'd call and ask if I was ordering, the 'see under' model is no good, your cheek is to high off the stock.
Garry
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Re: Scope Mount - Weaver Converta-Mount Bracket
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2007, 09:18:36 AM »



   I  think I will try the Converta Mount, will let you know how it goes, thank you. :)

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Re: Scope Mount - Weaver Converta-Mount Bracket
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2007, 11:12:09 AM »
For hunting at close range, the Remington Mounts that slips through the reciever - trigger are ok.

But if you were to get serious, like others has said, you can get a small screw installed into the barrel / action and while you are at it - get a new / used Weaver rail type mount and have it installed at a gunsmith and just leave it on the gun.  The rings will still be removable - but the rail stays on the gun.

I probably have 1/2  dozen Weaver Mounts in a box.
 I could sell you one with rings for $25 and you would be in buisness for less than 1/3 the price of new.

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Re: Scope Mount - Weaver Converta-Mount Bracket
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2008, 05:59:23 AM »
Treborwolf, I have the saddle mount on my 870 and it is awesome. Have remove my barrel a few times to clean it and it still hit 1-2" groups at 100.