New Remmy has potential

[NONYA]

need i say more?

[DalesCarpentry]

It is a 700 SPS Varmint. Yes it shoots. I have the same one in the 243.  Dale

[DalesCarpentry]

I do see a muzzle break on it though. Could you fill us in on that. Dale

[NONYA]

This is a BRAND NEW rifle not even on the market yet,TRIANGULAR /PORTED barrel,part of the new VTR lineup,likr the r-15 VTR designed with the long range varmiter in mind.

[NONYA]

triangular cut barrel with ports

[Foggy]

In the 90s I worked in a gun shop. A Gunsmith from Washington state came in the shop. He was taking a armor course at Berreta USA . Got talking  he showed us some photos of a rifle he built with a triangle barrel. Next day he brought it in.  that Saturday we went to a near by range. It shot likea house a fire. I believe it was a 243. Our Gunsmith was impressed but said it's time is not here yet. I guess now it is. It should be alot stiffer the even a fluted bull barrel
 
Foggy

[NONYA]

I was told its gonna be in 223 and 308 and sell for around 650,I think I need a new antelope rifle!

[drdougrx]

Soooo many guns....sooo little time.....How cool can a gun be!!

[DalesCarpentry]

Very cool. Looking forward to seeing one in person. Dale

[jro45]

One very nice rifle and it is a Remington. You have said enought.

[30-06man]

Ill be getting on in 308 if its that cheap!!!

[bigjeepman]

Nonya ...

What are the advantages of a triangular barrel? Better heat dissipation? Better harmonics? I am asking because I simply do not know. The rifle does look awesome.

bjm

[DalesCarpentry]

Does anyone have a link to this new rifle. Dale

[DalesCarpentry]

They are out there for sale now. Here is a link to gun broker for one that was sold.http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=87968499 They also have another  223 for sale now. Dale

[six_gunz]

Nonya ...

What are the advantages of a triangular barrel? Better heat dissipation? Better harmonics? I am asking because I simply do not know. The rifle does look awesome.

bjm

In my opinoin one big advantage of the triangle shaped barrel would be less weight. Take a look close up in the pic, you can see they really removed a lot of excess material with this new barrel shape.

[30-06man]

This is a .308. http://www.rrarms.com/catalog.php?prod=G84371 And the 223 http://www.rrarms.com/catalog.php?prod=G84370

I don't think it will be that much less weight. Look at the break at the end of the barrel and you can see how much material is left were on the round barrel that would all be gone.

[DalesCarpentry]

I might have found a new must have groundhog rifle. I really like the looks of it. I think it is cool as hell. Besides I still have a couple hundred round of 45 grain Winchester white box ammo left. Dale

[six_gunz]

Well, what I see is a round barrel milled to a triangular shape and milling means removing material, which to me means less weight.

[Foggy]

The triangle barrel is more rigid the a round bull  barrel even one with flutes  I think a round bull with flutes would dissipate heat better though

[DalesCarpentry]

I bet with the built in muzzel brake you could see POI through the scope like the 204. Dale

[six_gunz]

I just went to the link Dale listed for GunBroker. Here's what the ad says....copy and pasted word for word.

Remington 700 Varmint Tactical 223 REM 22" Barrel & Green Synthetic

A fusion of their most advanced performance features in both tactical and varmint rifles, the Model 700 Varmint-Tactical Rifle (VTR) is a revolutionary system optimized for extended range precision and mobility. Its triangular barrel contour is a product of years of rigorous research and development focused on reducing weight, enhancing rigidity and promoting rapid heat dissipation. To decrease recoil and muzzle jump, this uniquely contoured 22" barrel has an integral muzzle brake that is machined in during production. Along with the barrel design, brought together a host of other cutting edge features on this super accurate Model 700 platform.  The results are nothing short of astounding. Chambered for the inherently tight grouping 223 and 308 calibers, each model engineered with a rate of twist optimized for tactical style bullets, the Model 700 VTR is compact and swift handling thanks to its sleek lines and short action. The legendary  3 three-rings-of-steel and the many other superior design elements of this rifle deliver the highest degree of out-of-the-box accuracy available today. Plus, its matched with the new X-Mark Pro Trigger system for the ultimate in crispness and shot control. For improved consistency, the green synthetic stock has a vented beavertail forend that promotes rapid cooling. Its overmold accents provide a firm gripping surface, and the dual sling swivel studs permit convenient attachment of a bi-pod and a sling.

(Its triangular barrel contour is a product of years of rigorous research and development focused on reducing weight, enhancing rigidity and promoting rapid heat dissipation.)

[30-06man]

I just don't see anything that will make it lighter than the 22inch barrel. I guess it could but doubt it.

[six_gunz]

I guess you'd have to be a machinist or such to understand the weight distribution in materials as such, read the ad I pasted from Dale's link above your last post.

[jvs]

What is the MSRP on that rifle?  And what are they selling for on GunBroker?

[six_gunz]

NR for $624.99 and a  Buy it Now for $644.99  Not a bad price on GunBroker

[nomosendero]

I just went to the link Dale listed for GunBroker. Here's what the ad says....copy and pasted word for word.

Remington 700 Varmint Tactical 223 REM 22" Barrel & Green Synthetic

A fusion of their most advanced performance features in both tactical and varmint rifles, the Model 700 Varmint-Tactical Rifle (VTR) is a revolutionary system optimized for extended range precision and mobility. Its triangular barrel contour is a product of years of rigorous research and development focused on reducing weight, enhancing rigidity and promoting rapid heat dissipation. To decrease recoil and muzzle jump, this uniquely contoured 22" barrel has an integral muzzle brake that is machined in during production. Along with the barrel design, brought together a host of other cutting edge features on this super accurate Model 700 platform.  The results are nothing short of astounding. Chambered for the inherently tight grouping 223 and 308 calibers, each model engineered with a rate of twist optimized for tactical style bullets, the Model 700 VTR is compact and swift handling thanks to its sleek lines and short action. The legendary  3 three-rings-of-steel and the many other superior design elements of this rifle deliver the highest degree of out-of-the-box accuracy available today. Plus, its matched with the new X-Mark Pro Trigger system for the ultimate in crispness and shot control. For improved consistency, the green synthetic stock has a vented beavertail forend that promotes rapid cooling. Its overmold accents provide a firm gripping surface, and the dual sling swivel studs permit convenient attachment of a bi-pod and a sling.

(Its triangular barrel contour is a product of years of rigorous research and development focused on reducing weight, enhancing rigidity and promoting rapid heat dissipation.)

Looks like they hired a new sales/marketing guy doesn't it? Years of rigorous research?  I am glad the competition did not hear about the research first, they may have come out with their version 2 years sooner.  If the triangular barrel was so superior, why would it take years to find out? 
After all, others have tried the concept.

Sorry guys, I could not resist!!   Actually, I kinda like the rifle & hope it does well, I just find humor in the hype. I would like to try one out & I like the look of the triangular tube!! I am not too crazy about the break, esp. on the 223. The only thing it would give you with the 223 is no lift & like Dale said would be more like a 204, that part is good with no spotter. I would like to know how much actual barrel length is lost with this break,
whether 1" or 2", whatever. To me I could take it or leave the brake, I would have to bed it with that soft stock. Overall, I think it is kinda neat.

[six_gunz]

I just went to the link Dale listed for GunBroker. Here's what the ad says....copy and pasted word for word.

Remington 700 Varmint Tactical 223 REM 22" Barrel & Green Synthetic

A fusion of their most advanced performance features in both tactical and varmint rifles, the Model 700 Varmint-Tactical Rifle (VTR) is a revolutionary system optimized for extended range precision and mobility. Its triangular barrel contour is a product of years of rigorous research and development focused on reducing weight, enhancing rigidity and promoting rapid heat dissipation. To decrease recoil and muzzle jump, this uniquely contoured 22" barrel has an integral muzzle brake that is machined in during production. Along with the barrel design, brought together a host of other cutting edge features on this super accurate Model 700 platform.  The results are nothing short of astounding. Chambered for the inherently tight grouping 223 and 308 calibers, each model engineered with a rate of twist optimized for tactical style bullets, the Model 700 VTR is compact and swift handling thanks to its sleek lines and short action. The legendary  3 three-rings-of-steel and the many other superior design elements of this rifle deliver the highest degree of out-of-the-box accuracy available today. Plus, its matched with the new X-Mark Pro Trigger system for the ultimate in crispness and shot control. For improved consistency, the green synthetic stock has a vented beavertail forend that promotes rapid cooling. Its overmold accents provide a firm gripping surface, and the dual sling swivel studs permit convenient attachment of a bi-pod and a sling.

(Its triangular barrel contour is a product of years of rigorous research and development focused on reducing weight, enhancing rigidity and promoting rapid heat dissipation.)

Looks like they hired a new sales/marketing guy doesn't it? Years of rigorous research?  I am glad the competition did not hear about the research first, they may have come out with their version 2 years sooner.  If the triangular barrel was so superior, why would it take years to find out? 
After all, others have tried the concept.

Sorry guys, I could not resist!!   Actually, I kinda like the rifle & hope it does well, I just find humor in the hype. I would like to try one out & I like the look of the triangular tube!! I am not too crazy about the break, esp. on the 223. The only thing it would give you with the 223 is no lift & like Dale said would be more like a 204, that part is good with no spotter. I would like to know how much actual barrel length is lost with this break,
whether 1" or 2", whatever. To me I could take it or leave the brake, I would have to bed it with that soft stock. Overall, I think it is kinda neat.

I never bought into the hype or the years of research suggested in the ad myself. I was merely making an observation as to why the barrel was designed with the triangular shape.

[Doesniper]

Barrel stiffness varies in thickness of barrel material. The spot of the barrel that is thinnest from bore to outside dim., is the weekest point. If you take a barrel and cut flutes into it, you don't make it stiffer. It will add to the surface area and aid in cooling, but you will lose some stiffness. The only way to add stiffness with fluteing, is to add material. Look at the triangle barrel as a barrel with three extra large flutes.

[Jellyhead]

It looks like the new VTR family is growing.   The new R-15 VTR Repeating rifle, this new 700 SPS VTR,  and I hear that Remington is also working on a new 1187 for predator and varmint  hunters.  I am going shopping soon !

Jellyhead

[nomosendero]

Six, I know that you were just showing the add, I have no doubt you found it humorus as well.