Author Topic: New Remmy has potential (Read 15647 times)

30-06man · « **Reply #30 on:** December 24, 2007, 05:18:16 PM »

I know what your saying. The barrel is thin around the flat area of the triangle so it can reduce heat. But the barrel looks like it was a bull barrel for what I can tell and they cut the triangle and the area on top is still very thick. I think it will weigh the same as a regular barrel. Ill wait until some actual facts come out about the gun before I judge it. Remington has no info on its site. So in my mind the final word isn't out. The factory specs aren't out so we are just guessing on what it looks like and someone who claims they have one for sale and they could be making up a bunch of junk to sell something. So the final word is it looks good and I ain't saying anything for sure until Remington has Factory Specs on their page.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #31 on:** December 24, 2007, 07:38:13 PM »

For a long range varmint rifle the calibers seem lacking to me. The 223 while a great varmint round is not really enough for long range varmint hunting, And the 308 is somw what better but still not as good as some of the other rounds available in the remington line.

six_gunz · « **Reply #32 on:** December 25, 2007, 01:42:01 AM »

Quote from: 30-06man on December 24, 2007, 05:18:16 PM

I know what your saying. The barrel is thin around the flat area of the triangle so it can reduce heat. But the barrel looks like it was a bull barrel for what I can tell and they cut the triangle and the area on top is still very thick. I think it will weigh the same as a regular barrel. Ill wait until some actual facts come out about the gun before I judge it. Remington has no info on its site. So in my mind the final word isn't out. The factory specs aren't out so we are just guessing on what it looks like and someone who claims they have one for sale and they could be making up a bunch of junk to sell something. So the final word is it looks good and I ain't saying anything for sure until Remington has Factory Specs on their page.

30-06man, I am not trying to argue the fact but I just can't see how a bull barrel would weigh the same amount if you removed material by milling the barrel into a triangular shape as such? If you remove material it will definitely weigh less, I do this type of work for a living and when you shave material off steel it definitely weighs less afterwards.

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #33 on:** December 25, 2007, 03:52:06 AM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on December 24, 2007, 07:38:13 PM

For a long range varmint rifle the calibers seem lacking to me. The 223 while a great varmint round is not really enough for long range varmint hunting, And the 308 is somw what better but still not as good as some of the other rounds available in the remington line.

To be honest they would have been better off offering this new rifle in the 204, 223, 243 and maybe the 260. As far as the 260 goes that is just wishful thinking. Dale

NONYA · « **Reply #34 on:** December 25, 2007, 04:51:01 AM »

308 will do everything they can and more.

30-06man · « **Reply #35 on:** December 25, 2007, 04:58:11 AM »

Quote from: six_gunz on December 25, 2007, 01:42:01 AM

Quote from: 30-06man on December 24, 2007, 05:18:16 PM
I know what your saying. The barrel is thin around the flat area of the triangle so it can reduce heat. But the barrel looks like it was a bull barrel for what I can tell and they cut the triangle and the area on top is still very thick. I think it will weigh the same as a regular barrel. Ill wait until some actual facts come out about the gun before I judge it. Remington has no info on its site. So in my mind the final word isn't out. The factory specs aren't out so we are just guessing on what it looks like and someone who claims they have one for sale and they could be making up a bunch of junk to sell something. So the final word is it looks good and I ain't saying anything for sure until Remington has Factory Specs on their page.

30-06man, I am not trying to argue the fact but I just can't see how a bull barrel would weigh the same amount if you removed material by milling the barrel into a triangular shape as such? If you remove material it will definitely weigh less, I do this type of work for a living and when you shave material off steel it definitely weighs less afterwards.

I was speaking of a regular barrel. It looks like it was a totally new design and not a milled down bull barrel.

nomosendero · « **Reply #36 on:** December 25, 2007, 04:48:53 PM »

Like I said before, I would like to try one, but not on my nickle. I already have a M700VS with the HS stock & we all know that is a better stock. I am curious & if it gives me a pleasant surprise, that would be nice. So I hope that some on this forum try it out & a range report please.

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #37 on:** December 25, 2007, 05:11:27 PM »

I have last years 243 SPS Varmint and I have no dought this will shoot as good as my tack driving 243. Dale

nomosendero · « **Reply #38 on:** December 25, 2007, 05:22:26 PM »

I don't doubt it, but I don't know it will either. I will be glad to see the actual results. I know that I have good fortune with most Rems.

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #39 on:** December 28, 2007, 10:47:56 AM »

Gunbroker has one in the 308 now. Dale http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=88501713

NONYA · « **Reply #40 on:** December 28, 2007, 11:08:39 AM »

I been working on a lil 91 GMC blazer,as soon as I get the title work cleared Im going to sell it for...what was it...$659.99....mmm maybe $700 so i can get some rings and a base!I will get one of these by this summer.

30-06man · « **Reply #41 on:** December 28, 2007, 01:09:42 PM »

Well if you do then you have to post a range result. I wonder if it has the new trigger?

Don Fischer · « **Reply #42 on:** December 28, 2007, 01:40:27 PM »

Boy. Long as this is about opinions, if that gun was guarenteed to shoot .001" groups out of the box in any cartridge you wanted, came with the finest scope and mounts money could buy and a night with the woman of my choice, I still wouldn't buy it. That is one of, if not the, ugliest rifles I ever saw!

NONYA · « **Reply #43 on:** December 28, 2007, 02:54:28 PM »

I hope lots a guys feel the same way so i can get one CHEAP!

beemanbeme · « **Reply #44 on:** December 29, 2007, 03:47:52 AM »

Being a traditionalist, the rifle is not to my taste but considering just how many folks out there that will just have to have one simply 'cause it's different, I'm sure it's a good move on Rem's part. I don't see how a triangular barrel would be more or less accurate than a round one. In fact, the harmonics would be interesting. Maybe some of you folks that know a lot more about that sort of stuff can conjecture what will happen when a round is fired. It would seem to me that the stresses would tend to dwell at the corners of the triangle. Would this be a good thing or a bad thing?

How hard will it be to mill the barrel, cut the muzzle brake (damn I hate those things), cut the chamber, thread the barrel and still have things line up right when you thread it into the receiver?

30-06man · « **Reply #45 on:** December 29, 2007, 05:50:20 AM »

It starts off as a round barrel. And I think it stays that way then they mill it down into a triangle and then put the muzzle break on it. I ain't too sure. I am also a traditionalist when it comes to my rifles and this one just caught my eye and I have go to get me one. The price isn't too high either.

30-06man · « **Reply #46 on:** December 29, 2007, 05:52:46 AM »

Looks like a seller. The one and gun broker is now sold. I wonder when Remington is going to have one on the site so my I can get one on order through my FFL?

kudzu · « **Reply #47 on:** December 29, 2007, 06:34:01 PM »

Quote from: Don Fischer on December 28, 2007, 01:40:27 PM

Boy. Long as this is about opinions, if that gun was guarenteed to shoot .001" groups out of the box in any cartridge you wanted, came with the finest scope and mounts money could buy and a night with the woman of my choice, I still wouldn't buy it. That is one of, if not the, ugliest rifles I ever saw!

Don, We now know where you stand on this rifle, however who would the woman be.

beemanbeme · « **Reply #48 on:** December 30, 2007, 05:07:02 AM »

I'll bet if she wasn't under 65 and breathing she wouldn't make the cut. Don has standards you know.

Don Fischer · « **Reply #49 on:** December 30, 2007, 01:26:12 PM »

This is it!

But I ain't getting one so I get screwed!
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Upon reflection, that rifle is looking better!

six_gunz · « **Reply #50 on:** December 30, 2007, 04:11:45 PM »

Quote from: Don Fischer on December 30, 2007, 01:26:12 PM

This is it!

But I ain't getting one so I get screwed!
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Upon reflection, that rifle is looking better!

litman252 · « **Reply #51 on:** December 30, 2007, 05:10:01 PM »

The .223 is available at at least one wholesaler Rem. #84370. The 308 is not, same price. I'd sell if for $650 + shipping in a heart beat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tony

beemanbeme · « **Reply #52 on:** December 31, 2007, 04:55:51 AM »

That's less than I paid for my CDL. 'Course I got real wood.

30-06man · « **Reply #53 on:** December 31, 2007, 07:37:04 AM »

Which one should I get a Remington Model 7CDL. Or the 700VTR? I am going to get one of them next year.

litman252 · « **Reply #54 on:** December 31, 2007, 07:50:01 AM »

30-06man-
What are you going to use it for?? I would never use the VTR for hunting due to the brake.

Tony

30-06man · « **Reply #55 on:** December 31, 2007, 08:13:22 AM »

Deer hunting. The break wouldn't bother me.

NONYA · « **Reply #56 on:** December 31, 2007, 10:06:10 AM »

30-06 man no offense but dont turn this into another "what gun do I need?" argument/thread please.

30-06man · « **Reply #57 on:** December 31, 2007, 10:29:03 AM »

Wasn't planning on that. Just wanted to know because I can't make up my mind between the two. Ill just start a new thread or not.

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #58 on:** January 02, 2008, 04:26:36 PM »

Looks like they are going to offer it in the 204 Ruger and the 22-250 also. Dale http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_700/model_700_vtr.asp

30-06man · « **Reply #59 on:** January 02, 2008, 04:46:27 PM »

Yup. I for one love the .308 and wouldn't want anything else in it. I hope it has the new trigger. Dale didn't yours come around 3-4 LBS?