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Offline handi243

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22 mag
« on: December 24, 2007, 03:40:33 PM »
Has anyone tried using shorts or longs in a 22 mag i was going to buy a mag but also need it for the trapline really not worried about accuracy i will only be a foot or two away any input will be nice thanks

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Re: 22 mag
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2007, 03:47:22 PM »
The 22mag chamber is larger in diameter than a short, long or long rifle, you'll likely rupture cases.

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Re: 22 mag
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2007, 08:03:16 AM »
Quick is right, you will definitely rupture cases, I have done it. The chamber will get a bit dirty but it cleans right out. For what you want it will work....<><....:)

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Re: 22 mag
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2007, 10:32:33 AM »
Yup they rupture, did it accidentally, not very pleasant.  A spray of hot gas and brass particles across the forehead is never pleasant, even with shooting glasses.

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Re: 22 mag
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2007, 10:55:03 AM »
were you shooting a revolver or semi auto when that happened? I have never had any problem with debris or gas from the ruptured case exiting the locked breech area of a Sportster....<><.... ???
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Re: 22 mag
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2007, 11:49:33 AM »
It was a Savage single shot.  I'm not sure of the model, but it was a Martini-type action that looked like a lever-action.  The Sportster would vent the gas 90 degrees from the bore, not back in the shooter's face.

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Re: 22 mag
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2007, 11:59:31 AM »
OK, and thanks for your thoughts and input....<><....:)
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Re: 22 mag
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2007, 03:06:15 PM »
You can shoot .22 WRF in the mag if you want.  It has a 45 grain bullet at about 1300 fps.  A little more umphf than a .22 lr and a little cheaper than .22mag.  My CZ 452 shoots the CCI load very well.  As good as the mag loads and better than some.  2 in the magazine is all that I can load at a time without failure to feed properly.  In the Single shots, that would not be an issue.

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Re: 22 mag
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2007, 01:27:45 PM »
The .22 WRF shoots very well and is usable for small game.. My problem is that it doesn't shoot anywhere near the same POI as .22 mag. ammo does.

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Re: 22 mag
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2007, 07:27:27 AM »
The .22 WRF shoots very well and is usable for small game.. My problem is that it doesn't shoot anywhere near the same POI as .22 mag. ammo does.

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A change in bullet weight and/or velocity has a tendency to do that.

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Re: 22 mag
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2007, 12:42:48 PM »
I have tried the little Aguilla hummingbirds in mine.  And the rim is larger on the Mag than the Long rifle and it doesn't hit the rim to set it off.
I have a CZ in 22 lr  as well that shoots CB longs and they work great, even feeds from the mag.  More than enough power to kill ground squirrels and cotton tails out to 50 yards.  The Aguilla's get stuck in the long barrel. 

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Re: 22 mag
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2007, 02:54:39 PM »
Over the last 2 or 3 years I have been shooting some Aqulia Colibris but mostly Aquila Super Colibris out of an Old Remington bolt rifle, a H&R/NEF Sportster, and many (hundreds) of the Super Colibris out of a Marlin Model 60. They do not "stick" in the barrel (I know there is a disclaimer on the box saying they might). They even function through the tube magazine of the Model 60 but the action has to be cycled by hand for each shot, not enough power to cycle to bolt. They have accounted for over 250 gray squirrels, most with head shots which are my preference with these low powered rounds, and within my self imposed limit of about 20 yards max, probably 15 yards for the average shot. There have also been a couple of pesky chipmunks that were trying to set up residence next to the house and a hapless crow that landed on the ground about 18 yards away from me, one shot and he did a face plane without moving, a lucky shot that. I have read of many who say they "stick" in the barrel but myself and about 6 or 8 buddies would argue that, even if it is printed on the box, but then again I am not one that believes everything he reads in print. If you get a chance try some, but I suggest the Super Colibris in the red box as opposed to the regular Colibris in the yellow box, not much difference, but just enough to make them great in rifles....<><....:)
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Re: 22 mag
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2008, 07:08:53 AM »
I think the CZ has a tight bore and a really long barrel 26" and the regular rounds do get stuck 90% of the time right under the front sight.  The super 's work but only 4 will feed out of the mag.  I found the CB's to work a little better for me.  I have had Remington Bolt action tube fed rifles with a 24" barrel that the aguill'a worked great out of.  Also out of the tube fed guns I used the CB shorts and could go hunting all day with out carrying spare ammo and be quiet.  The CB's are a little louder than the aguilla's but not more than my Gamo pellet rifle.

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Re: 22 mag
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2008, 10:01:06 AM »
+1 on the CCI CB's.
I prefer the CB Longs, though the CCI Shorts are EXACTLY the same bullet, powder charge, ballistics. The longs tend to give me slightly better accuracy, as the bullet gets seated further into the chamber...the shorts won't cycle in a few of my rifles, either.
Otherwise, they sound/shoot equally.

The pity is EVERY shop carries the CB shorts, but only walmart in my area has CB longs...and walmart wants $1 a box more than the shorts found everywhere else. Oh well!

I don't shoot the Aguila Colibris anymore...but I do still have a brick of Super Colibris.
I've had a handfun of colibris stick in the barrel, but all the super colibris have made it out....the problem is accuracy--it just doesn't seem to be there with the colibris. Too much variation.

The CB Longs work well around the farm--don't spook the cows, and are plenty for crows/barn pigeons and even bunnies. I keep 'em within 30-40yds, though. Never had any of the above make it more than a few feet after been whopped with a CB.

All my rifles are more quiete with the CB's than my spring powered air rifle.
Great round of kids as well--accurate enough they aren't frustrating, but quiet enough to shoot without hearing protection so they can hear ALL your tips/commands.

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Re: 22 mag
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2008, 04:55:55 PM »
I used to use the Collibre's in my bisley revolver in the garage to shoot mice.  They work great.  The bb gun was not so good as the BB bounced all over the place even after going through the mouse.   The lead slug would flatten out on the cement.  If you have a revolver Use them in it.  You'll be happy.  Mice, rats, rabbits, and squirrels too.