What Do You Think About Rem Buying Marlin?

[30-30man]

If it weren't for Marlin's model 6o and the 336 they would have gone under a long time ago.  Let us hope Remington doesn't screw these models up. These models have not changed because they worked and made money.  Marlin was one of the few companies that offered economy based rifles that were excellent. What other gun than the 336 could you get with the kind of  machine work and outstanding accuracy of a 336 for under $350.  It came with wood stocks too. Remington makes great expensive bolt guns that are caparable to any but their economy line stinks. Remington never could get this right, too many failed attempts and bad designs.  The 710, Viper, 597......I hope this doesn't happen to Marlin's offerings.  Stamped parts, aluminum receivers, pressed barrels, and ugly plastic stocks, it maybe the future for Marlin.  

What will happen to the H&R Chinese copy of the 870?  Will it replace the 870 as we know it today? Look at what has happen to the cutlery industry.  More of our favorite pocket knives are now all made in China.  Old Timer, Uncle Henry, and even Buck.  

Lately I see more youngsters interested in video games instead of hunting. Too many dead beat fathers out there who are just not around. Nobody stays married anymore and most youngsters barely see their dads or even no who he is.  We only have ourselves to blame though.  We are allowing it, one family at a time.

[30-06man]

If it weren't for Marlin's model 6o and the 336 they would have gone under a long time ago.  Let us hope Remington doesn't screw these models up. These models have not changed because they worked and made money.  Marlin was one of the few companies that offered economy based rifles that were excellent. What other gun than the 336 could you get with the kind of  machine work and outstanding accuracy of a 336 for under $350.  It came with wood stocks too. Remington makes great expensive bolt guns that are caparable to any but their economy line stinks. Remington never could get this right, too many failed attempts and bad designs.  The 710, Viper, 597......I hope this doesn't happen to Marlin's offerings.  Stamped parts, aluminum receivers, pressed barrels, and ugly plastic stocks, it maybe the future for Marlin.  

What will happen to the H&R Chinese copy of the 870?  Will it replace the 870 as we know it today? Look at what has happen to the cutlery industry.  More of our favorite pocket knives are now all made in China.  Old Timer, Uncle Henry, and even Buck.  

Lately I see more youngsters interested in video games instead of hunting. Too many dead beat fathers out there who are just not around. Nobody stays married anymore and most youngsters barely see their dads or even no who he is.  We only have ourselves to blame though.  We are allowing it, one family at a time.

Remington is not stupid. They would continue making the 870 in the USA. As far as the Buck Knifes the good ones are made here but the cheap $10-15 Knifes are made in China. I don't see a problem if marlin did come out with something like a All Weather Model 336 with stainless and Synthetic. I doubt Rem will touch the 336 or any Marlin Lever guns. I do think they will have NEF make Rem single shot which I am all for. Remington has made good cheaper guns like the Rem 700 ADL but they did the stupid thing and stopped production of the ADL line and it was one of their #1 sellers. I don't think that this will be bad and I don't think they will move anything to any other country. They already have the Spartan line so why would they do that to the NEF. Prices may go up but that is going to happen when prices on everything is going up. Just what I think.

[sniperVLS]

If they keep this foolishness up Graybeard Outdoor Enterprises may just have to buy Cerberus to put an end to it and make sure the gun companies are in good hands. 

Now that's something I'd support with my checkbook 

I'm trying to pretend an Anti doesn't own Cerberus. If the powers to be in that company are indeed buying all these companies only to pull the plug in the end, it will be one scary day, one that I don't want to be around for 

[slayer]

I don`t like it. All of my Marlins have been top notch and old school design, I like that. Remington on the other hand is heading in the wrong direction starting with the R3 nasty recoil pad and their high prices. Alot of the Rems I have seen on the shelves now have bad fit and finish. I use to love the old Rem 700`s, but not the new ones. Overpriced and average.

Jack

[slayer]

If I wanted to sell less Bushmasters so I could eventually put Bushmasters out of business, I wouldn't come out with a Remington based on the same gun.  (and if it weren't for a MSRP that is a little high compared to others, STAG for instance, I would be in the market for one of these)

And now that it appears that Remington bought Marlin, doesn't the news a few weeks back make more sense?  Marlin coming out with another bolt action?   In the end those guns might be REMLINS or MARLINGTONS, but they should sell with the Marlin name on it, as long as they aren't imports. What happened when S&W went into British hands should be a warning to anyone who thinks imports or political foreign ownership can survive in the AMERICAN gun business.   

As far as I'm concerned, I don't care what the UN, the Brits, the Queen, the French or anyone else thinks.  Believe me, when any foreigner needs American help, they'll come running with their lips first, just like they did for WWII.   They need Americans more than we need them for anyithing, including their opinions.

*****

If anything, the Marlin Model 60 might take a dive (about time too), and shotguns might start looking alike.  Look for consolidation on the shop floor and offices to strip away the redundant operations.

If Cerberus ever goes public, which I doubt, I would be buying some shares.  While it does no harm to be wary when stuff like this happens, right now I see no proof that Cerberus is doing anything but trying to make money.

The new marlin looks just like a savage. The trigger is just like the accutrigger. I think they are having someone make it for them like savage.

If Marlins have an Accu-Trigger type trigger on them now, I won`t touch them with a 10 foot pool!! I can`t stand the Accu-Trigger.

Jack

[30-06man]

No its just the new bolt action.

[Drilling Man]

Remington never could get this right, too many failed attempts and bad designs.  The 710, Viper, 597......

  My 597M has never failed to fire or eject a case since i bought it new several yeas ago...  It just keeps on keeping on, unlike Rugers 22 Win. Mag. that Ruger had to pull off the market because it's a turd!

  Ever hear of a model 581?  It's one of the best bolt action cheapo 22's ever built...

  Ever hear of a model 788???  One of the most accurate production bolt rifles ever made, and they were dirt cheap!!!

  I think Rem. has made many very good low end products... But, like any other company, they have made some mistakes too...

  DM

[Wild Bill 442]

From a write up on Stephen Feinberg, CEO/co-founder of Cerberus...

Feinberg has traded his tennis rackets for rifles. His new hobby is big-game hunting. On family trips to Colorado, he leaves before dawn, comes back midday, and takes his daughters on a hike. A few trophies have been sent to the taxidermist’s for mounting. “My guy friends are always, like, sketched out,” Lindsey says. “ ‘I don’t want to be with you. Your dad is going to shoot me.’ I’m like, ‘No, he’s not like that. He’s really chill. He’s a really laid-back guy.’ ” 

Lindsey is a daughter.

Whether a new found thrill, or a life passion; at least the guy has some interest in our sport.  I am generally supportive of private equity firms and what they can do for companies, especially one with Cerberus' resources.  Prudent mergers and cooperation among holdings, some manufacturing and marketing expertise appropriately applied; and our favorite manufacturers will be much more stable that if left standing alone.  Companies like Cerberus are interested in companies that have value. Companies that can make money.  In today's marketplace that means companies that have cost-effective manufacturing and products that consumers want.  And those consumers are folks like you and me in this case.

[sniperVLS]

Well that's definitely positive news, thanks for posting.

Let's home the other founder feels the same way 

[SHOOTALL]

my 1022 mag. has never had a problem ! shoots great !
maybe operator error was to blame ?

[Drilling Man]

my 1022 mag. has never had a problem ! shoots great !
maybe operator error was to blame ?

  Well sir,

  There must have been a lot of "operator error" all over the country, because Ruger pulled them off the market, and no one "made" them, make "that" decision...

  DM

[SHOOTALL]

maybe !
then again maybe they chose to use the manf. space for a hotter seller .
I have to admit to not knowing the real reason but i do have friends and acquaintances that have them and no one has mentioned trouble , also of the many magazines on guns ( rifles in particular ) do i remember such being stated .
I can only hope mine will increase in value if no more are made !
To show complete honesty i will note mine does not care for Remington rim-fire ammo , but since neither do I it has not been a problem ! Winchester works great !

[30-06man]

All the .22 bulk ammo is about the same other than CCI which I think is the best. Although I do like the Rem and Winchester. Any new info on the Marlin Hornaday Rounds?

[Oldtimer]

Another take on acquisitions.  These mega-corporations do not have an abiding interest in any of their product lines, except whether they produce short-term profit.  I live in a former tobacco producing region and it really went down after the companies that sold only tobacco were bought out by companies that handled everything from vodka to pet food.   Bill Ruger was a real champion of the Second Amendment and his company sold one type of product.  I cannot imagine the president of this mega-corporation feeling the same urge to stand up for gun rights, as it is such a small part of the profit picture.

[SHOOTALL]

don't forget Ruger made the heads for golf clubs and other products !
as did S&W !