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S&W Sigma VE Trigger Work - Gunsmith Recommendation
« on: December 27, 2007, 07:25:05 AM »
My sister recently purchased one of these pistols. After shooting it a bit with her over Christmas I'm convinced that it really does need some sort of trigger work. The trigger performed exactly as advertised: heavy, rough, considerable over-travel.

While I'm sure it'll smooth out with use, I've convinced her that it'd be worth her while to have a professional trigger job done on it. Any recommendations for a gunsmith to do this work on this pistol in the Columbus/Central Ohio area?

Thanks. -WSJ

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Re: S&W Sigma VE Trigger Work - Gunsmith Recommendation
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2007, 12:52:06 AM »
 I eagerly await an answer to this question from someone who knows. I also have one of these and was told by another (gun nut) that there really isn't anything worth doing. Because the trigger isn't releasing a cocked action, it is dragging the firing pin back then letting it fly to hit the primer. Much like shooting a rubber band. You REALLY need to pay attention to shooting form and trigger control when shooting this gun if you want to have decent accuracy.
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Re: S&W Sigma VE Trigger Work - Gunsmith Recommendation
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2007, 03:02:14 AM »
Honestly, the pistol is a tactical pistol, not a target pistol.  As such, the trigger pull is heavy.

If your sister is going to carry the pistol she might want to leave it heavy........when the hair crawls on the back of your neck, her heart beats fast, and the adrenalin flows, that heavy trigger will feel very light.......during a stressful situation, a heavy trigger pull aids to prevent an accidental discharge.......not always a bad thing.......
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Re: S&W Sigma VE Trigger Work - Gunsmith Recommendation
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2007, 02:45:38 AM »
Yeah, I understand the rationale behind the heavy trigger pull = less risk of inadvertent discharge but I still think it's a hindrance to accurate or enjoyable recreational shooting, which is also her intent.

I doubt she'll every carry the pistol on her person but probably will have it in her vehicle on occasion.  I'm guessing that most of the time it'll be in her nightstand.  On the other hand she enjoys shooting and this is her first very own handgun, so she wants to become proficient with it.  It's tough to enjoy informal shooting at cans and targets if your gun's trigger pull makes it hard to hit well, especially when shooting with others who aren't similarly handicapped.  And personally, I think you're better served if you've an accurate gun that you're confident you can shoot well.

The surprising thing is that so far I've not gotten any recommendations for a local (central Ohio) gunsmith to do the work from either this site or Accurate Reloading!  Surely some of the many Sigma owners have found someone to work on their pistols.  Dammit, I told her to buy a revolver . . . .

Happy New Year.  -WSJ

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Re: S&W Sigma VE Trigger Work - Gunsmith Recommendation
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2007, 12:18:24 PM »
Heck.....just move the target closer ;)
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Re: S&W Sigma VE Trigger Work - Gunsmith Recommendation
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2007, 01:09:47 PM »
Good point!

And actually, she's shooting it well enough that I wouldn't want to have her pointing it at me from across the room.  She was keeping most of her shots in about a 15"x15" Shoot'n'See target square, off-hand, at 20 yards.  But she's not happy and is determined to do better, which is great.

I talked to her the other day about the trigger job (a 'smith in Salt Lake City does them for $60 + shipping but so far no local guys) and she was all for it if it could be made better for $60-75.  I promised I'd buy her a laser sight for her birthday if she got a trigger job done and got good with it.   -WSJ

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Re: S&W Sigma VE Trigger Work - Gunsmith Recommendation
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2008, 05:43:22 PM »
Hello,

First off, that is respectable shooting for a new shooter under self defense situations.  Trigger time is all she needs to get better.

I've had a 40E for years, it was my first handgun.  I tried cutting the spring down a little shorter and removing the cloth wrap over the trigger spring.  I ended up screwing it up and ordered a new spring.

I later bought a reduced weight striker spring from wolff.  You may also polish up the surfaces a little with a dremmel and some flitz.  The more you shoot it the smoother it gets.

Bear in mind that there's no short reset like the Glock... which makes it more like a revolver...

Best of luck and let us know what you do.

-Coop

FWIW- I put an extra power recoil spring in it from ISMI.  Later the locking block broke loose from the frame.... not sure if it was from the spring or the gunscrubber having an effect on the plastic?  SW sent me a new frame and now I keep it stock.

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Re: S&W Sigma VE Trigger Work - Gunsmith Recommendation
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2008, 02:45:19 AM »
unfortunately there is not much you can do. unless you intend to re-engineer the working mechanism of the gun then about all you can do is replace the springs and gently polish up the bearing surfaces. it will smooth out after about 500 rounds but even then the overtravel and pull weight may still be to high for you. it is what it is and you'll have to train yourself to shoot it that way. next time - buy the glock and be done with it.