Author Topic: ILLEGAL imigration why can't every state get it? (Read 1736 times)

billy_56081 · « **on:** December 30, 2007, 04:42:56 PM »

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071230/ts_alt_afp/usimmigrationeconomyarizona

We need laws like this in every state.

six_gunz · « **Reply #1 on:** December 30, 2007, 05:28:31 PM »

Good for Arizona in taking a great step towards this issue. Now hopefully more if not all will follow suit!!

alsaqr · « **Reply #2 on:** December 31, 2007, 04:50:49 AM »

We have essentially the same law in OK. Illegals have left OK in droves. Now we have a couple of representatives whining that some companies cannot find cheap labor. Both these guys voted for the law and now they want it repealed.

six_gunz · « **Reply #3 on:** December 31, 2007, 05:01:50 AM »

Time for these companies that are getting fat to take a cut and pay some real Americans some real wages, don't you think?

frogjake · « **Reply #4 on:** December 31, 2007, 05:25:02 AM »

I would like to see corporations pay proper wages to OUR counrtrymen as well. I have often wondered how rich $ does one have to be? Does being rich feel as good when you have screwed over hundreds or thousands of people to obtain that wealth. I also miss the days when , if you were a loyal employee that your company would look out for you. There is a terrible trend now that intentionally rids the workforce of near retirement workers so that they don't have to pay retirement. I suppose we cannot expect things to remain as change is always immenent but, it would be great to see positive change once in awhile.

Don Fischer · « **Reply #5 on:** December 31, 2007, 05:47:26 AM »

I love the scare tactics from the sky is falling crowd. Lettuce pickers wages will go to to $32 to $34 per hour. I've never made even half that in my life!

nomosendero · « **Reply #6 on:** December 31, 2007, 06:32:13 AM »

Tony Joe White knew the solution to the lettuce issue long ago & so do !!!

B2crawler · « **Reply #7 on:** December 31, 2007, 10:31:27 AM »

I wish colorado would do something. ANYTHING!!!!
I'm a 28 year old white minority bricklayer. Honest to god before I was self employed a friend and I were laid off first on a job because were WHITE. We were working for Central Masonry Corp of Littleton Colorado. Hispanic foreman that ran the job and yes out of 30 or so employees on the job were the only two white boys and the first to be let go...not really suprising. Keep no english speaking unskilled labor over a journeyman mason.
We were working on the Colorado Springs Jail expansion to boot. Illegals building the jail!! What a country.

rex6666 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 31, 2007, 01:44:41 PM »

I keep hearing the ilegals do work that no one else will, well some one did before nthe ilegals took over.
Oh all those people went on welfare and let the ilegals work, well it is time to cut welfare in half and they will
go back to work. We let this happen, and it is time to stop it.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 31, 2007, 01:54:14 PM »

Its not that no one will do the work. It's that they don't want to pay a liveable wage for the work.

Dee · « **Reply #10 on:** December 31, 2007, 02:51:30 PM »

Billy you are exacty right in most areas. I go to New Orleans 3 times a week and they WON'T down there, and illegals have moved in to do the work. The New Orleans Police Dept, has formed a task force to protect them on payday, as they are paid in cash, and the locals rob them.
Can you believe that the City of New Orleans OPENLY admits to hiring illegals and even protects them against the locals. This was on the nightly new down there.

six_gunz · « **Reply #11 on:** December 31, 2007, 05:39:17 PM »

One of the presidential candidates Mitt Romney was busted ONCE AGAIN for having "Illegals"
working on his property. He claims he had no clue they were "Illegals", yeah and I was born yesterday!!!!

http://www.newsweek.com/id/73785

six_gunz · « **Reply #12 on:** December 31, 2007, 05:49:12 PM »

On another note, I believe it was the FINE city of New Haven Connecticut not too long back that announced it was going to hand out ID's to illegals
because (as Dee stated earlier about New Orleans) they get paid cash and were being robbed on pay day so they needed an ID to get a bank account to prevent this.
What is wrong with the picture here? Hello, a prime example of TAX EVASION!!!!
While we American citizens are being over taxed our FINE government turns their cheek to this, make any sense??

http://www.newhavenindependent.org/archives/2007/06/city_id_plan_ap.php

nomosendero · « **Reply #13 on:** December 31, 2007, 07:57:34 PM »

S.B. · « **Reply #14 on:** January 01, 2008, 03:20:30 AM »

Quote from: alsaqr on December 31, 2007, 04:50:49 AM

We have essentially the same law in OK. Illegals have left OK in droves. Now we have a couple of representatives whining that some companies cannot find cheap labor. Both these guys voted for the law and now they want it repealed.

Maybe these oompanies need to pay a decent wage?

rex6666 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 02, 2008, 07:18:52 AM »

i guess i missed something on this livable wage deal.
it is a livable wage for ilegals and not for a citizen.
i say again if we cut welfare people will go back to work.
I have a friend that has a step daughter that is single has 2 kids, she will not work
She gets about 1,600.00 - 1,800.00 per mo. for the kids, she pays $30.00 per mo. for
an appartment W/elec. and water, gov. pays the rest, she gets food stamps, the gov.
tells her if she goes to work, they(we) will pay 100% of her child care.
their are people in this country that have lived like this for 2-3 generations,
soon we will have the ilegals doing the same.
Ibelieve this is where supply and demand comes in, if the company does not pay enough to
hire people to work they will have to close the doors. On the other hand if the compay pays decent it will get the employes it needs then it passes along the cost to the consumer(you&me).
Of couse this is based on logic, and our politicos can't have that

S.B. · « **Reply #16 on:** January 02, 2008, 09:36:11 AM »

I have to take a drug test before going out on most jobs, why don't we drug test welfare recipients before they get their check from the government? Fair is fair.

Dee · « **Reply #17 on:** January 02, 2008, 09:39:22 AM »

Now that is a splendid plan.

STUMPJMPR · « **Reply #18 on:** January 02, 2008, 09:46:28 AM »

We all know New Orleans real problem!!!! I live about 45 miles from there. Its all a bunch of crackheads who don't want to work who have made a living robbing the system blind. After it flooded they should have left it that way....Most of the local population there just waited for their turn in line to try and get something for free....We went back into our house 2 weeks after the storm and started rebuilding by ourselves....We had very little outside help....The attitude of New Orleans is if sit on my butt long enough the government will come in and build me a brand new house and i'll get everything for free!!!!!! YOU GOT TO LOVE OUR GOVERNMENT....They create problems by helping people who don't help themselves!!!!!!

woodchukhntr · « **Reply #19 on:** January 02, 2008, 09:59:37 AM »

I'm not one for more governmental control, but this illegal problem has to stop, and clamping down on the employers seems to be an effective way to stop it. My solution would be to have an "Instant Check" system for employment. Since we already have an Instant Check system for firearms purchases, I propose realigning it to check on potential employees. Prior to hiring, the potential employee would be subjected to an Instant Check to verify their eligibility. Criminal charges would be brought against anyone who falsifies the forms, documentation, or check results. The check results would be the same as for gun purchases: approved for immediate hire, hold for up to 3 days (or more if necessary), and denied. Under-the-table, day worker employers would be subject to the same penalties even if they didn't run the check.

rex6666 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 02, 2008, 10:39:25 AM »

The lady that does the final paper work on hiring at the company i work for tells me
that the I R S has a # you call to verify SS #'s you can call and give the name and # they will tell you if it is real or not. She calls in 5 # one day, all with mexican names, the peson on
the other end told her she was being prejudice and should call in other names, she tried
to explain that these were the only names she had, the person told her she should run an add and get more applicants. She never did find out if the #'s were good. I would bet that in Ft. Worth TX 75-80 % of the applicants in our line of work are mexican, i have no problem
with that but they need to be legal.

S.B. · « **Reply #21 on:** January 02, 2008, 11:31:33 AM »

I'm a construction laborer and every job I go out on, we must, by law, fill out a form stating that we are legal citizens of the U.S. and show proof of a Social Security Card and State drivers license. Why shoulldn't they?

billy_56081 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 02, 2008, 12:55:26 PM »

Well now that someone has proposed drug tests for welfare recipients. We should also extend them to the politicians also. Some of the laws they propose and make they have to be on dope.

S.B. · « **Reply #23 on:** January 02, 2008, 03:08:45 PM »

Yes, and union officials also? Would be nice to see if all are clean or dirty.

rex6666 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 03, 2008, 03:21:57 AM »

S B, i know what you mean, but they have all those things and if you take them away they will be back in a few days with more, the co that i work for has told people to go home until they can get a real ss card three days later they back with a new #.
Some one said that we may have to give up some of our rights for a while, or loose them all
well i think we are about there. Some one has to take a stand in this country, and
not be afraid of hurting some ones feelings.

STUMPJMPR · « **Reply #25 on:** January 03, 2008, 04:22:25 AM »

We could possibly handle illegal immigrants like prairie dogs.....just a thought

S.B. · « **Reply #26 on:** January 03, 2008, 04:23:22 AM »

Yes, politically correct, only serves the politically wrong? I believe in America for Americans who speak the language and can assimilated to OUR culture. I think it's time that we forget where we came from and remember where we're going? Now it seems like we're a country of African Americans, Asian Americans, German Americans, and any other country's transports that wants a new home and still wants to keep their old one(read change America)? Some have been here for 300-400 years and still can't speak the English, or read or write it, and American tax payers footing the bill for more education than anywhere else on the globe?

Rant mode off.

Dee · « **Reply #27 on:** January 07, 2008, 01:59:20 AM »

What an idea. False report to a police officer could be interesting though.

nomosendero · « **Reply #28 on:** January 07, 2008, 03:07:34 AM »

"why can't every state get it?" I don't know, ask Huck, he didn't get it when he was our Gov., but he acts like he gets it now.

S.B. · « **Reply #29 on:** January 07, 2008, 03:40:48 AM »

TM7, Now I'm wondering what language this guy is speaking? It sure isn't english.