Scored on a Model Seven this weekend

[AtlLaw]

Went down to south Georgia this w/e; only 3 weeks left in deer season.  Saturday was really wet so I slept late; cut Bambi a little slack.  Anyway, that afternoon my friend who lives down there and I jump in my car and head to a gun shop he knows about.  Let me tell ya folks, in some parts of rural Jawja there ain't much goin' on!  We musta drove 40 miles to get to this place!  And didn't pass one K-Mart or Wally World!     Now I ain't bein' critical of my state, I just want y'all to realize that there are some places where not everything, including a gun shop, is at your finger tips!  Heck!  my other huntin' buddy and I went out to eat the next night and the only place available within an hour's drive was a Huddle House!
But I digress...
Well, we get to this place and, as small a buildin' as it was, it was full of folk.  I tell ya it looked like the monster truck rally and prayer-meetin' had let out at the same time.  But there were racks of guns around the wall and on the floor as well as cases of pistols and ammo and other huntin' stuff.  All-in-all a pretty neat place.  But I didn't see anything I had to have.  Specifically, I told my friend I didn't see any used Remington M-7's.  Ya see, for a few years now I been looking for a M-7 action to build a .250/3000 (.250 Savage) on.  Kinda hard to find a used one for sale, and when you do, the seller is right proud of 'em!    I got a Model Seven, but it's a 7/08 all decked out in plastic and paint (the only non-walnut and blued steel sporter I own!) and, stoked with the old Nosler 162 gr. solid base bullets, is my back-up for whatever other rifle I happen to be hunting with.  So my friend tells me "I think I saw one over there."  Sure enough, there it is!  An old 18.5 inch barrel Youth Model!  And mine for $275 out the door!
Now, off the action goes to Shaw for a 20 inch factory contour .250 barrel!  While I'm waiting I can decide on what wood I want to put on it!  One thing though.  It's a .260 right now.  And I LOVE .260/6.5mm's!  Already got a 260 on a 700 short action and 2 Swede 6.5x55's!  So I'm afraid that, just for grins before it goes off, I'm gonna' have to bed it into another Model Seven stock I have laying around and take her to the range.  And if it shoots as well as my other .260, I may have to keep it "as is" till next season and let her kill a deer for me before it's dismembered.  I'm kinda considerate that way.   

[jvs]

Make the Stock a Two-toned Brown Laminated Mannlicher   and make everybody drool.

[Graybeard]

Iffen ya wanna make me drool that laminate will have to be the gray or pepper not brown but I agree on the manlicher type stock and it would need SS metal as well as that's my idea of the ultimate M7.

[AtlLaw]

Saaaay!  Laminated Mannlicher huh!   Well, I don't got no rifle gun with one a them fancy glued-up wood slab stocks.  And I love Mannlickers, One a my Swede's has the prettiest full length stock ever carved outa English Walnut.  And I got a semi-inlet "AA" Fancy full length piece of walnut that I been holdin onto for the last 10-15 years.  But I got another Shilen barreled Swede action Ima gonna drop into that first chance I get.   

But I think Mannlicher's look better with a shorty type front ramp and a single or double folding leaf iron sight mounted on the barrel.  Just call me old fashioned! 

I always envisioned this little rifle as just that; diminutive, feather light, classically elegant.  I'm even rethinking the 20 inch barrel.  I might just stay with the 18.5 inch Bill and I like so much.     Ah well, plenty of time to figure all that out...  laminated mannlicher, hummmmm.

[jvs]

Brown or Gray would be ok too.  Anything but those goofy lookin' Reds & Greens.

Just about everybody here drools over those Model 7 Laminated Mannilchers from the Remington Custom Shop but nobody wants to put up the $2,700 to get one. You can check out what yours will probably look like, if you decide on laminated mannlicher, by going to Remington's website and see the Custom shops' Model 7 Mannlicher.   

Makes me wonder why Remington doesn't mass produce something like that in the Model 7 line-up.   ( CAN YOU HEAR THAT REMINGTON   GET ON THE BALL ! ! !)

If you're going custom from the beginning, you might as well make it a Laminated Mannlicher.  If you can find those stocks and barrel bands somewhere.

If it doesn't work out, sell it to me CHEAP !  

[beemanbeme]

JVS, the reason Rem ain't mass producing a full stocked M7 is they are selling all they can make in the custom shop at $2600 a pop.  I started to order one when they were a MERE $1300 and hesitated.  While I was hesitating, they jumped to $2200.   

[TLARbb]

JVS, the reason Rem ain't mass producing a full stocked M7 is they are selling all they can make in the custom shop at $2600 a pop.  I started to order one when they were a MERE $1300 and hesitated.  While I was hesitating, they jumped to $2200.   

Hmmm.   Seems like there is a pretty good aftermarket for stocks and metal tips.  Too bad I'm not already in that business.  Looks like a good opportunity.  Maybe somebody will pick up on it.  Hint. Hint.

All the ones I see on Gunbroker or GunsAmerica go pretty fast. 

EJ

[jvs]

JVS, the reason Rem ain't mass producing a full stocked M7 is they are selling all they can make in the custom shop at $2600 a pop.  I started to order one when they were a MERE $1300 and hesitated.  While I was hesitating, they jumped to $2200.   

I know a few people who ordered a rifle from the Remington Custom shop, and not one of them came in at the price quoted.  Every one of them went up, some substantially.  I would have to guess that you are charged by the hour for their specialists.   It wouldn't matter if the price was $1300 when you ordered it, it would still cost you $2700 today.  Remington does NOT guarantee prices on Custom Shop Guns, therefore prices 'can' go up.   Also, the Custom Shop can not tell you exactly when your rifle will be done either.  All they can do is give you a 'ballpark' figure and completion date.  I have never heard of the Custom Shop guaranteeing a price.

As for your post, I wasn't aware that the Model 7 barreled action was that hard to come by for Remington.  If that is the case, it is no wonder why Remington can't come out with a Mass Produced Laminated Mannlicher Model 7.  Although it appears Remington has enough Model 7 actions for other stocks.

[AtlLaw]

Nothing is EVER easy!  I emailed Shaw yesterday and got a reply darn near right away.  They do NOT offer a factory contour M-7 barrel!     Wonder if Remington will sell me one?  Fat chance!   

The good news is I found a factory, laminated, M'licher stock!  Okay, so I'm easily talked into things...     Bad news is that if I can't find a factory contour M-7 Barrel in 250 Savage; I'm right back where I started!  I might just as well keep this rifle in .260 and slap that Laminated stock on it.  I mean, what's the point of short and light if I have to go with a bigger barrel?      I might just as well start looking for a M-700 SA to build that .250 on.... 

[jvs]

Never say never until you know for sure.

Right now I think you may be at the point where you probably should be contacting a Remington Service Center.  They are there to cut through the red tape involved with anyting that has to do with Remington.

My guess is that Remington has access to a contour barrel in .250 Savage for a Model 7.  The Custon shop will build just about any caliber that is requested, and I know for a fact that Grice just recently offered something in 250 Savage. (in what make & model I don't remember)

The only way to know for sure whether Remington will sell you a barrel without shipping the action to them so they can do the work, is to ask at a service center.

After that, your only other option may be to send the Action to Remington and tell them to put a 250 savage countour barrel on it, which I am positive they can and will do. 

TRY TO GO THROUGH A SERVICE CENTER !

It could get pricey.

[AtlLaw]

<snip>The only way to know for sure whether Remington will sell you a barrel without shipping the action to them so they can do the work, is to ask at a service center.

After that, your only other option may be to send the Action to Remington and tell them to put a 250 savage countour barrel on it, which I am positive they can and will do. 

TRY TO GO THROUGH A SERVICE CENTER !

It could get pricey.

Good thinking!  As you say, it couldn't hurt to ask!   

[crash87]

AtlLaw, I had once envisioned the same as you, but for my, at the time ,9 year old son. He turns 12 next month. A model 7 redone to a 250 savage. Of course he really didn't need such a rifle, 243, 260, etc, were all viable choices for a youngster. But it is believed that parents sometime live there dreams through their children. All I can say is "damn straight they do" and I always wanted one. To work up loads for him to shoot and hunt with would be this Father's pleasure. Like you I went looking but found nothing. While working out of state I tend to stop in every gun shop I can find, even if it means a little detour, heck, it ain't my gas. I walked into this place in Minnesota and went to the used rack and lo & behold there's a M-7 youth. So I went to the new guns and there's another, albeit for $150 more. They looked identical except for the finish on the stock was a little lighter on the "used" one. I bought it for him and never looked back. It shoots, so far, with the 2 bullets we decided to use for plinking, practice, and next month, hunting TX Javelina. Nosler 120 B.T. and Rem 120 CL. "I" still want a 250 Savage but that 260 youth shoots to nice to change it. Let us know how yours turns out. CRASH87

[jvs]

AtlLaw,

     While I was at my local gunshop today I took the liberty to ask if he knew of any contour 250 Savage Barrels available.  He said he didn't know of any, but he suggested I get in contact with a local well known gunsmith to see if he had any laying around because he does alot of Custom work for people who want to change barrels, etc.

I called the gunsmith and he didn't have any contour 25 calibers either, but he suggested you get in touch with Midway.  Midway sells barrels.  He said he would prefer Douglas or Hart, but Midway is all right for limited budgets.

[AtlLaw]

I had once envisioned the same as you, but for my, at the time ,9 year old son. He turns 12 next month. A model 7 redone to a 250 savage. Of course he really didn't need such a rifle, 243, 260, etc, ...

I always thought the .250 and the M-7 went together like peas and carrots!  And "need" never entered into it!     Especially since my youngest child just turned 30; I can't use her as an excuse.  As another illustration of the irrelevance of need, I've got a .257 Bob, 2 - .260's and 2 - 6.5x55's.  Now, really, does the difference in diameters between .257 and .264 make any difference to a 100 gr. bullet launched at, say, 2900 fps?  Naw...    !

<snip>  and I always wanted one.

This is the point!  I want one!!!!!     A rifle in .250 Savage that is!

I walked into this place in Minnesota and went to the used rack and lo & behold there's a M-7 youth.  ...  I bought it for him and never looked back!  <snip>  "I" still want a 250 Savage but that 260 youth shoots to nice to change it. Let us know how yours turns out.
CRASH87

Sounds like we are kindred spirits!  I'm think I'm just gonna refinish that old M-7 stock I've had laying around and pretty this poor ol' mistreated rifle gun up some!  I bet it will shoot real good once I get it bedded into that wood like it should be.  I may just keep it in .260 for my Granbabies to use!

But then, what am I gonna do about that .250 I want!! 

[AtlLaw]

<snip>  I called the gunsmith and he didn't have any contour 25 calibers either, but he suggested you get in touch with Midway.  Midway sells barrels.  He said he would prefer Douglas or Hart, but Midway is all right for limited budgets.

Thanks for the leg work!  I've looked around a bit and can't find any factory M-7 contour barrels.  I'll follow up on your service center suggestion this week.
There are plenty of options for light sporter barrels, just no Rem Mountain Rifle or M-7 contours.  Of course all that does is shoot my "gather together and assemble Remington parts to make a rifle" plan in the butt.      Heck, that Laminated M'licher stock was even gone when I went back to the web site today!  I guess I'm gonna be forced to keep that M-7 in .260 and build a .250 from the ground up if I want that flavor quarter bore... darn...