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Dead Horse
« on: January 01, 2008, 03:51:58 PM »
Until I joined this forum a few days ago I had no idea that there were such strong feelings in the South.
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Re: Dead Horse
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2008, 04:58:15 PM »
A common saying is "The war ain't over."

A good friend of mine is a transplanted Southerner. He was asked once, "Jasper, what is it about Southerners and their affinity for guns?" He replied "It's because the Yankees might come back!" He was only half kidding.

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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2008, 01:47:52 PM »
A common saying is "The war ain't over."

A good friend of mine is a transplanted Southerner. He was asked once, "Jasper, what is it about Southerners and their affinity for guns?" He replied "It's because the Yankees might come back!" He was only half kidding.



You're only half right and I'll leave it to you  to figure out who we really don't trust. He wasn't kidding at all.
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Re: Dead Horse
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2008, 04:15:53 PM »
Black, the GREAT war is rarely mentioned or even thought of by most Southerners but deep feelings of injustice run strong.   Honestly now, would you have us believe that's not also true in the North, leavened with a strong under current of smug self-righteousness?
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2008, 05:17:56 PM »
My people fought on both sides. Sadness is all the feeling I have. It was not a great war, it was terrible as are all wars.
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2008, 01:43:53 AM »
"Sadness is all the feeling I have. It was not a great war, "

Sadness from injustice is what most of us feel.

"GREAT", as in large.

I don't know if any of my family was in it on either side, that's never been an issue with me.
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2008, 04:46:11 PM »
Black, the GREAT war is rarely mentioned or even thought of by most Southerners but deep feelings of injustice run strong.   Honestly now, would you have us believe that's not also true in the North, leavened with a strong under current of smug self-righteousness?

Most people in the northern city ares think that most Southerners are stupid hillbillies.This is not the case in rural or small towns of the north. There is an affinity between the south and the rural & small town north.

I have lived in the north my whole life and I think that most people in the big cities of the north are elitist slime. They hate not only southerns but all of small town and rural America.

People need to realize this. Its not the north and south thing anymore. Its a cultural war between rural/small town versus big city.

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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2008, 02:24:46 AM »
Cabin - "I have lived in the north my whole life and I think that most people in the big cities of the north are elitist slime. They hate not only southerns but all of small town and rural America."

Perhaps you are right.  I've never lived in the North but most of those I've known from the North who are the most arrogant - and wrong - have been big city dwellers.  Some of their ignorant foolishness is actually laughable!  Like the silly Yankee city girl who joined the VISTA Corp in the 70s so she could come to Appalachia and teach our poor, dumb mountain women how to safely apply diapers and sterilize baby bottles!  She had actually been "trained" by VISTA to think she would be going from shanty door to shanty door to educate our ignorant women on how to take care of their babies!  True story.  But she didn't last long, went back north so she could be safe in some white ghetto.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2008, 04:01:38 AM »
Wow. I've lived in the
Chicago area my whole life and believe it or not I don't hate anybody and I never even look at our country as north/south. I look at it as America. I think stereotyping is going on on both sides of this coin. What's the difference between you saying I'm an elitist slime without ever meeting me or me saying you're a dumb hillbilly without ever meeting you. Now I know there are a lot of both in the north and south but there are a lot of good people in the urban areas too, they just don't stand out like the ones you usually see on t.v. I go to work every day and do the best I can for my family just like you do. What makes me an elitist? Because I happen to work in an area that pays decent wages? Because I drive a new truck? Because I worked 2 full time jobs to be able to buy a house when I was 25 and have a place to raise my children? Because I send my kids to private school so they don't have to go to public school with all the immigrants and gang bangers?

I'm not arguing the fact that some urban people look at rural people as hicks or whatever you want to call them. I'm just saying there's a lot of assuming going on here on both sides and there are good people in both places.
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Re: Dead Horse
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2008, 04:29:14 AM »
Wow. I've lived in the
Chicago area my whole life and believe it or not I don't hate anybody and I never even look at our country as north/south. I look at it as America.

I know your vision of America as one nation is well intended, but sorry, that vision is really the problem. There are cultural differences between north, south, west, ect. Its when we fail to recognize these is what sets us up for failure and conflict. We never will be nor never should be one. The differences of America regionally is what makes this an interesting place to live. When you try to put everyone in the same mold, you are by definition asking someone to give up their traditions and historical way of life. No one wants to do that except the elitists and of course its their way or the hi-way.

Lets just leave everyone alone as long as they live within the confines of the constitution.
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2008, 12:37:39 AM »
Hmm interesting subject.

I was born and raised in the South. I grew up listening to stories of the many ancestors i had who fought in the War for the South. We have 2 journals that were kept by 2 brothers who were pows in the north for 2 years each. I think it is bred into us to distrust the government.  The fact that the South was raped by the North during reconstruction. The fact that affirmative action was implemented mostly because it was another jibe at the South. The fact that i can prove this because my grandfather and father both were replaced at their jobs by unqualified, undereducated men because of the color of their skin and laws set into effect by a government grown too large for their pants.  Granted the undereducation was because of a system that was built this way. But what system was this? Nothern school systems. One man was born and raised in Detroit, the other in Chicago.  And lets talk about guns. Why do southerners like guns so much? Well because i can drive 10 minutes in any direction from my house and go hunting. Most city dwellers in the north have to drive hours to go hunting. I grew up hunting to help put food on the table because of the struggle the family had working several jobs just to pay the bills. I hunted with a rifle that was handed down from my great great grandfather, who was a southern veteran btw, model 1892 winchester .38-40. I was almost 30 before i bought my first new rifle. Now that i have made a better life for myself and my own family i own around 25 guns in varying calibers and styles. Why? because i can according to our government. No they arent all laying around the house fully loaded, all are locked up in a gun safe, out of sight from public view. I only own about one box of bullets for each one, except for the shotguns because i like to go skeet shooting a lot.  So am i a hillbilly? some would prolly say yes, but i live about 30 miles from the closest hill...lol...i guess you could call me a swampbilly. And no Louisiana isnt all swamps, mostly just around the gulf coast and some river bottoms. So am i proud to be Southern? YES! Would i be proud if i was born in the North? YES! Because i would have been raised in a whole different situation. Everyone should be proud of where they are from and where they are going. So all the bickering about North/South is for naught. No one will change anyone elses minds.

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Re: Dead Horse
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2008, 05:33:30 PM »

A good friend of mine is a transplanted Southerner. He was asked once, "Jasper, what is it about Southerners and their affinity for guns?" He replied "It's because the Yankees might come back!" He was only half kidding.


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You're only half right and I'll leave it to you  to figure out who we really don't trust. He wasn't kidding at all.
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I trust him, and he trusts me. Are you saying we can't trust you?
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Re: Dead Horse
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2008, 05:54:58 AM »

A good friend of mine is a transplanted Southerner. He was asked once, "Jasper, what is it about Southerners and their affinity for guns?" He replied "It's because the Yankees might come back!" He was only half kidding.



You're only half right and I'll leave it to you  to figure out who we really don't trust. He wasn't kidding at all.
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Re: Dead Horse
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2008, 06:11:32 AM »

A good friend of mine is a transplanted Southerner. He was asked once, "Jasper, what is it about Southerners and their affinity for guns?" He replied "It's because the Yankees might come back!" He was only half kidding.


You're only half right and I'll leave it to you  to figure out who we really don't trust. He wasn't kidding at
all


I trust him, and he trusts me. Are you saying we can't trust you?

Sorry it took this long to answer you I had to read it twice to realize you were asking me ia question. Well you don't know me so it is up to you. Do you want to trust me? I know that I'm trustable but trusting me isn't up to me its up to you. So I would say you are asking the wrong person. By the way I didn't imply that your friend didn't trust you as I'm sure he does. Why don't you ask him who he doesn't trust.
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