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Ruger .44 Mag Carbine Advice Needed
« on: January 10, 2008, 05:11:46 AM »
I bought my wife a Ruger Deerfield Carbine a few years ago. It is a great gun. I have an opportunity to buy an older model with the tube feed and I don't know if they are as good as the newer version. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Re: Ruger .44 Mag Carbine Advice Needed
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2008, 05:29:34 AM »
Yes,buy it.You have two different types of actions.Both have merits.

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Re: Ruger .44 Mag Carbine Advice Needed
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2008, 05:35:29 AM »
Does the older model have a history of misfeeds or stovepipes?
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Re: Ruger .44 Mag Carbine Advice Needed
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2008, 09:31:05 AM »
I owned one of the older models, gas operated with tubular feed, since I bought it new in 1980.  It was very accurate with jacketed 240gr bullets and not picky to load for, but I've seen some that were a pain in the a$$.    You have GOT to keep them clean.  All I ever loaded in mine was 240gr bullets, and I've heard that they were designed for 240's and can be truculent to shoot anything other than 240's, but I don't know since I never tried any other weight. 

If you are gonna buy one, make sure you have a return agreement with whomever you buy it from.  First thing I'd do is disassemble and clean it good in the gas system and inside the receiver and bolt area.  Don't lube it too much.  I've seen a few that the magazine tube was gunked up from too much lubricants and dirt/dust or bullet lube.  After insuring it's good and clean throughout, I'd try it with factory 240gr jacketed ammo.  I like the Hornady XTP's and the Speer Gold Dots.

My ex-wife was a helluva shot with hers.  She used to embarass my friends, who thought they were good shots, in off-hand impromptu shooting matches out to around 150yds.
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Re: Ruger .44 Mag Carbine Advice Needed
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2008, 09:44:34 AM »
Skeezix, How tough are they to break down and clean?
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Re: Ruger .44 Mag Carbine Advice Needed
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2008, 11:31:00 AM »
Well, that rifle was sold when we divorced, so I haven't had my hands in one in several years.  But, if I remember correctly, one screw, plus removing the barrel band, got the action out of the stock and it was fairly easy after that.  Being a Ruger, the parts are simple and relatively robust.  It's certainly no more difficult than the new Deerfields or a Mini-14.  You won't need to disassemble the trigger group; just spray that thoroughly with carb cleaner once you get it out.  The important thing is to get all the old powder debris and congealed lubricants out of the bolt, receiver raceways, gas piston/cylinder ass'y & slide, and magazine tube/cartridge lifter.

When reloading, I avoided "dirty" powders like 2400 and went with cleaner burning choices, so I rarely had to tear it down and clean the action.  Same thing in factory loads too.  I avoided ones that produced much smoke.  The Hornady factory loads are clean burning.  I never had a jam or failure to feed of any kind with ours.  When I had my shop, the ones that were brought to me for "repair" were ALWAYS filthy dirty.  I even had 'em come in full of leaves, twigs, and dirt, and one was full of mud.  One was so full of crud that I couldn't see a borelight through the barrel, which was full of lint, leaf debris, rust, dust, dirt and congealed WD-40.  He's lucky he didn't pull the trigger on it.  I only ever saw two that a thorough cleaning and 240gr jacketed ammo didn't cure and those two had been abused terribly.
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Re: Ruger .44 Mag Carbine Advice Needed
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2008, 12:43:30 PM »
 Much obliged, blackbear
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Re: Ruger .44 Mag Carbine Advice Needed
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2008, 04:07:53 PM »
 I bought an older one in '87 and don't think I'll ever sell it.  Only feeding probs I ever had was with a  lighter bullet and load.  Never jams shooting 240 gr with a bit of juice.  Should hold it level right to left when slapping the first round into the chamber or could jam the round.  I've almost only fired jacketed thru it and never taken any metal apart, suppose a thousand rounds through it.  Have heated it up many times.  Shoot's well.  Very happy with a Williams peep on it, much better radius than with the buckhorn rear site.  Pretty easy bangiing 100yd 9-10 inch swinger offhand.  See-thru scope mounts in the cupboard for years.

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Re: Ruger .44 Mag Carbine Advice Needed
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2008, 10:54:16 AM »
blackbear,

  I owned a Ruger deerfield that was made in late "69" and boy that was a shooting little rifle ...handy ,light ,accurate as all get out with next to no recoil to speak of...

  Found one recently again after i sold my last one due to a death in the family , and it ended up getting bought out from underneath me ... But long tale short ,I would love to have another one of those great little rifles
 Considering heavily buying one of the 96/44 for the missus.. (she really has a thing for lever-actions)

  Also with my Deerfield it always shot fine with anything i feed it , though my success was with the 240 remmies soft points...1 deer and 3 coyotes (fist size hole on the exit side of deer)

  Hope that helps you out

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Re: Ruger .44 Mag Carbine Advice Needed
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2008, 10:58:28 AM »
 Thanks, I appreciate the input.
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Re: Ruger .44 Mag Carbine Advice Needed
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2008, 02:06:28 PM »
[I owned a Ruger deerfield that was made in late "69" ]

Default - FYI, If that .44 Carbine was made in 1969, it was an old model .44 Auto Carbine(tube feed), and not a Deerfield (clip feed) - which was first made in 1999.
The Deerfield's model number was 99/44 - similar to the 96/44 lever gun's model number.
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Re: Ruger .44 Mag Carbine Advice Needed
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2008, 02:20:28 PM »
I have a very early Carbine that shoots the 270 gr Speer Gold Dot very well with H110. Never a problem with functioning and groups inside 3" at 100 yards.

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Re: Ruger .44 Mag Carbine Advice Needed
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2008, 03:14:23 PM »
I had been talking by phone to an individual who has a tube feed model for sale. When I traveled to see the weapon it was disappointing. Poor condition and overpriced. Hopefully I will find one that has been well maintained.
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