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Offline DalesCarpentry

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Big arguement with the wife.
« on: January 10, 2008, 04:04:57 PM »
I have a big argument with the wife. She is all for Hillray Clinton. When I bring up she is not for guns she says this country is more than about guns. She is right on that. I would like to be able to own any firearm I would like. I have no criminal record and I feel I should be able to buy any firearm I would like to. I will not vote for her because of her standing on guns or at least her husbands. I know there are people out there like me and do not who I should vote for an account of this. I am not a Clinton lover by any means but please point me in the right direction. Thanks Dale
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2008, 05:28:48 PM »

 The lady in Iowa Said it best, " I quote Hillery would make a good president in Outer Mongol"
  Marv.
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2008, 05:34:58 PM »
  Dale:

      Restricting guns is not all Hillary would restrict..just pull down your Google search and  type in   Hillary, Marxist   ..assuming your wife is not a Communist, you may find some interesting info there.

  Remember, it was not long ago when she told us." We going to take things away from you for the common good".
  
  The Communist dialectic says........ " From each, according to his ability;
                                                             To each, according to his need".
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2008, 06:36:01 PM »
Dale,
Hillery is a socialist, and socialists believe the only reason socialism has not worked here(USA) is because they haven't had the right people in charge. I'm sorry to tell your wife but the Second Amendment is not the only potential casualty of another Clinton administration. The first, fourth and tenth amendments are also in jeopardy under a Clinton admin. Ask your wife how many amendments she's willing to surrender to Hillery, and her cohorts Pelosi, Reed, Shummer, & Kennedy.
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2008, 07:09:47 AM »
While you're giving up those amendments you'll also be taxed into poverty.  I just don't understand why people insist that she would be good for this country.  ???
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2008, 07:46:26 AM »
It's OK Dale my wife and I usually cancel each others vote out.;D
We drive down to the polls to vote for opposite candidates.

She likes Hillary's ideas for schools.(my wife is a teacher)
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2008, 08:44:19 AM »
i used to have that problem.  then i started voting on the way home,  and if she didnt remember to do it,  oh well.   lol.   more than one way to skin a cat. ;)
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2008, 11:40:43 AM »
Everything on the dumbocrap ticket scares the heck out of me. 

If you are for more illegal immigration, more welfare, closer ties to NATO, a castrated military, more harsh ACLU influence, and destruction of the American way of life..............vote democratic!

I was opposed to invading Iraq, but since we are there we need to stay the course.  It cost a lot of American lives to protect our freedoms and way of life, but you can bet your bottom dollar it will cost more lives to reclaim our freedoms and regain our way of life after Hillary is finished.
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2008, 01:27:50 PM »
Partsman :  Do her just like Helliery will do tell her you are going to give her the hope diamond and then just dont do it and blame the right wing party for their influience on your decision for not do so,   JIM
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2008, 02:38:47 PM »
Ouch. Nothing you can do about it. She will learn though. Mine voted for al gore because he looked better than Bush. Just give her time. She might not vote right this election but next she might.
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2008, 02:45:03 PM »
If we are lucky she wont have a chance to vote for her...
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2008, 02:50:08 PM »
I don't think I want Obama Bin Laden Hussain there either.
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2008, 03:00:24 PM »
You really think that non American oreo would stand a chance..
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2008, 03:05:34 PM »
I wish but yes he probably does with some of the nut cases out there.
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2008, 03:21:34 PM »
Quote from: PartsMan on January 11, 2008, 07:46:26 AM
It's OK Dale my wife and I usually cancel each others vote out.;D
We drive down to the polls to vote for opposite candidates.

She likes Hillary's ideas for schools.(my wife is a teacher)

She might want to do some research on that one. As first lady of AR, she was instrumental in driving our school standards down here in AR. During those years we ranked 49th & one year 50th. The school ratings for AR have gone up since then, though still lower than many states. And no, I am not a Huck supporter but the State ratings went up several notches after Huck became gov.

Butch Hillary talks the talk, but if anyone can even name 1 thing this B did for education, please post it.
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2008, 03:24:20 PM »
Ha she would scrap public schools due to wasteful spending. That's just my 2 cents.
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2008, 03:50:42 PM »
Quote from: 30-06man on January 11, 2008, 03:24:20 PM
Ha she would scrap public schools due to wasteful spending. That's just my 2 cents.

If she'll scrap public schools then I might vote for her!

The tenth plank of the communist manifesto is the creation of public school systems.....

The government sets the agenda....teaches kids the UN is a good thing.....animals have rights.....there is no god......etc...etc....

IMO, getting the government out of the school business is a priority......
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2008, 04:00:29 PM »
Quote from: victorcharlie on January 11, 2008, 03:50:42 PM
Quote from: 30-06man on January 11, 2008, 03:24:20 PM
Ha she would scrap public schools due to wasteful spending. That's just my 2 cents.

If she'll scrap public schools then I might vote for her!

The tenth plank of the communist manifesto is the creation of public school systems.....

The government sets the agenda....teaches kids the UN is a good thing.....animals have rights.....there is no god......etc...etc....

IMO, getting the government out of the school business is a priority......

Heck I know it would be good to get rid of them. I am getting ready to have to pay for my sons collage but I can't afford private schools or my kids would already be there.  I am glad my son is so interested in the sport he is going to go to the Marines and then go to a Machinist school and then a gunsmithing school. It shouldn't cost me too much but it would be nice to have someone who can fix my mistakes.
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2008, 04:01:59 PM »
On another note he is paying for rest of his collage like my dad did to me. They paid my first year then I had to work for the rest.
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2008, 05:37:54 PM »
The tenth plank also abolishes child labor in factories.  Another bad idea?
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2008, 02:37:52 AM »
Quote from: crustaceous on January 11, 2008, 05:37:54 PM
The tenth plank also abolishes child labor in factories.  Another bad idea?

No, not a bad thing if that's all you read into it.......ending child labor in factories would be required to get all kids in public schools.

However, child labor is a fact in China, our biggest trading partner......so is slave labor and prison labor.  Forced labor, or being told where your going to work, also exists.

You say you can't afford private school, but in fact, your paying for pubic school already.....

I'd love to see a voucher system........and have schools compete for students.......

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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2008, 03:53:51 AM »
  I can't believe anyone on this forum is defending Communism in ANY way. So they seem to have a decent idea once in a while, but then..so does the Devil...and both the Devil and Communism are equally truthful and sincere .
      The Communist elite once in power, ignore any manifestos, constitutions or agreements. These same elites indulge themselves in a luxurious way of life by manipulating and suppressing the general public..whom Commies and Democrats refer to as the "masses"..which indicates just how they feel about the public that "enthroned" them.
  I believe Democrats would do the same if they ever regained full power!
  Can I prove this contention ?
     Easily ! Gore, Clinton, Obama and all the Democrat top politicians and their "patrician" Hollyweird crowd, keep telling the "masses" how they must sacrifice for the sake of ecology. 
   We must for instance, walk or bicycle to work, if we drive it should be an electric roller skate, eat only seeds and sticks, quit using lead bullets, limit to 1 sheet of toilet paper..etc, etc,..ad nauseum.
   But people like Gore, the Clintons, John Edwards, Barbra Streisand, Susan Sarandon and thousands of their friends live in heated/air conditioned 30,00 sq ft mansions (perhaps 2 or 3) drive in limos and move in entourages of SUVs, take holidays "on a whim" in places like Monte Carlo, Majorca, Fiji or Paris..flying there alone or in small group in huge private jets. 
     
    Is there anywhere, any sign that these phonies are in the least "walking the walk" anywhere near as well as they are "talking the talk".?
   These same people, especially the Tinsel Town crowd; are very hasty to point out when some preacher stumbles and does something stupid...but they break their own "preaching"  EVEN MORE egregiously day by day than the most fallen preacher that ever lived...

      We are dealing here with pathological liars..
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2008, 04:51:14 AM »
Quote from: ironglow on January 12, 2008, 03:53:51 AM
  I can't believe anyone on this forum is defending Communism in ANY way. So they seem to have a decent idea once in a while, but then..so does the Devil...and both the Devil and Communism are equally truthful and sincere .
      The Communist elite once in power, ignore any manifestos, constitutions or agreements. These same elites indulge themselves in a luxurious way of life by manipulating and suppressing the general public..whom Commies and Democrats refer to as the "masses"..which indicates just how they feel about the public that "enthroned" them.
  I believe Democrats would do the same if they ever regained full power!
  Can I prove this contention ?
     Easily ! Gore, Clinton, Obama and all the Democrat top politicians and their "patrician" Hollyweird crowd, keep telling the "masses" how they must sacrifice for the sake of ecology. 
   We must for instance, walk or bicycle to work, if we drive it should be an electric roller skate, eat only seeds and sticks, quit using lead bullets, limit to 1 sheet of toilet paper..etc, etc,..ad nauseum.
   But people like Gore, the Clintons, John Edwards, Barbra Streisand, Susan Sarandon and thousands of their friends live in heated/air conditioned 30,00 sq ft mansions (perhsps 2 or 3) drive in limos and move in entourages of SUVs, take holidays "on a whim" in places like Monte Carlo, Majorca, Fiji or Paris..flying there alone or in small group in huge private jets. 
     
    Is there anywhere, any sign that these phonies are in the least "walking the walk" anywhere near as they are "talking the talk".?
   These same people, especially the Tinsel Town crowd; are very hasty to point out when some preacher stumbles and does something stupid...but they break their own "preaching" more egregiously day by day than any preacher that ever lived...

      We are dealing here with pathological liars..

Very good Sir !!
Yes a big lie is more sellable with a little truth or something good mixed within.
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2008, 05:09:58 AM »
  Partsman;

   I don't of course know your situation, but some of the teachers I know , when considering how something will "benefit education",
  they are actually thinking more along the lines of teacher's benefits, retirement, privileges etc..rather than the nitty-gritty education of children.
  Frankly I believe that if the "education system" were indeed interested in truly educating children they would make sure the most important basics were involved. Without reading skills, a child is terribly handicapped..the so-called "whole language" method (look and GUESS at it) should be scrapped and phonics should be taught !

    Remember; it was the Clintons that left Arkansas ranked 49th out of 50 in education..It was Gov Huckabee that brought them a long way up !
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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2008, 04:43:08 PM »
Considering the economic time bomb W is leaving us with I can't imagine why everyone on this board is not considering voting Democtatic

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/12/bush200712
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2008, 05:51:22 PM »
Ha.
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2008, 06:32:54 PM »
Maybe because most of us aren't big Marx fans.

I looked at some of the back issues & featured articles, nice Socialist Demoncrap mag!!!

So a bigger Gov. would fix things quicker, oh I see.  ::)  The Government & Bush have been problem enough, I guess putting in a Commie could speed up the break down to get it over with I guess.

I am curious, what are the specific things that Butch Hillary would do to get things straightened out?  ::)
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2008, 06:41:05 PM »
Quote from: crustaceous on January 12, 2008, 04:43:08 PM
Considering the economic time bomb W is leaving us with I can't imagine why everyone on this board is not considering voting Democtatic

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/12/bush200712

How is W or any other president responsible for the economy???  I don't think we can pin irresponsible mortgage lenders and irresponsible borrowers on President Bush.  Since when does the President of the U.S. control the price of oil?  The article you posted is so biased against W it's laughable.  Furthermore, how could anyone give Clinton credit for the internet boom of the 90's.  You should seek better sources than Vanity Fair.  It's easy to see why we don't want a Democrat in office:  they would attack most of our rights, increase our taxes, and create more government to horn in our daily affairs - no thank you.
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Re: Big arguement with the wife.
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2008, 06:48:43 PM »
Quote from: Heavy C on January 12, 2008, 06:41:05 PM
Quote from: crustaceous on January 12, 2008, 04:43:08 PM
Considering the economic time bomb W is leaving us with I can't imagine why everyone on this board is not considering voting Democtatic

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/12/bush200712

How is W or any other president responsible for the economy???  I don't think we can pin irresponsible mortgage lenders and irresponsible borrowers on President Bush.  Since when does the President of the U.S. control the price of oil?  The article you posted is so biased against W it's laughable.  Furthermore, how could anyone give Clinton credit for the internet boom of the 90's.  You should seek better sources than Vanity Fair.  It's easy to see why we don't want a Democrat in office:  they would attack most of our rights, increase our taxes, and create more government to horn in our daily affairs - no thank you.

Voting Dem is like shooting yourself in the foot. You never win.
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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2008, 06:50:20 PM »
 Dems cause the problems. Then anyone that tries to do anything right gets bashed for making headway.
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