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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2008, 12:23:18 PM »
Hit the range today for about 4 hours, had my friends new 7600, my new SPS-V, my new 870 tactical and my trusty Sig 226 to shoot so we were busy indeed. Nice warm front moved in so it was about 50, no wind, no rain, beautiful weather but brought a sterno can for the shooting fingers anyways  ;D

The target pic consists of the 1st 6 rounds fired by me @ 200 yards(I skipped 100 lol). The top 3 started high, adjusted the turrets which makes up for the lone middle shot, and the last 2 were after the final turret adjustments and I couldn't be more pleased. This is with American Eagle 150grain FMJ by the way. I shot 20 rounds and looked at the muzzle and copper was everywhere. Gave her a quick field cleaning and shot another 20. I was hitting 20oz water filled bottles @ 300 yards like they were nothin'. Going for bowling pins was far 2 easy, luckily someone had oranges out there and we tossed those up onto the tires and orange mist everywhere :) I cannot tell you how much I love this rifle, oh and the Elite 3200 scope..wow. I'm getting this from now on over the Super Snipers(which I still adore)... $120.00 cheaper and just as good glass and it tracks perfectly and holds zero. It's a no brainer!

I dislike the stock even more though after shooting it, a better one will definitely help, even if it's just a peace of mind thing.. I miss my palm swell dearly! Oh and it was my friends 1st time shooting, ever. As you can see in the pic, he was quite thrilled  :D He did good with his 7600, awesome rifle for $450.00









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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2008, 01:10:09 PM »
It will only shoot better after you get it broke in. I polished the bore on my rifle before I ever shot it and believe that is what made mine shoot tiny little groups. It also speeds up the break in time. Looks like you got yourself a shooter. I would also like to have one in the 308. Looks like you and your buddy had a real good time. Dale
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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2008, 01:27:01 PM »
Yeah seeing as it's el cheapo american eagle and only a few rounds fired and it's already making me grin from ear to ear, I can't wait to find out what ammo the barrel really likes :) I wasn't comfortable with the height I was shooting from either. I couldn't get comfy with the sandbag on those benches. I'd much rather lay down with a bipod but the ground was snowy and wet so.....

I'm going to use 165grain AccuTips on coyote, well that's if they shoot well out of this rifle. I have so many american eagle rounds that I need to get rid of and it makes for an affordable day at the range. I got many boxes at the last gun show I went 2 for only $7 or $8.00 a box, I bought the guy out, spent like 180.00 that morning just on .308 and it's now paying off.

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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2008, 01:33:59 PM »
Great deal on the ammo. As far as shooting goes I prefer to shoot off a bench. I can't seem to get my eye to line up with the scope properly laying down. Could be my big belly though. Dale
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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2008, 02:09:00 PM »
Hit the range today for about 4 hours, had my friends new 7600, my new SPS-V, my new 870 tactical and my trusty Sig 226 to shoot so we were busy indeed. Nice warm front moved in so it was about 50, no wind, no rain, beautiful weather but brought a sterno can for the shooting fingers anyways  ;D

The target pic consists of the 1st 6 rounds fired by me @ 200 yards(I skipped 100 lol). The top 3 started high, adjusted the turrets which makes up for the lone middle shot, and the last 2 were after the final turret adjustments and I couldn't be more pleased. This is with American Eagle 150grain FMJ by the way. I shot 20 rounds and looked at the muzzle and copper was everywhere. Gave her a quick field cleaning and shot another 20. I was hitting 20oz water filled bottles @ 300 yards like they were nothin'. Going for bowling pins was far 2 easy, luckily someone had oranges out there and we tossed those up onto the tires and orange mist everywhere :) I cannot tell you how much I love this rifle, oh and the Elite 3200 scope..wow. I'm getting this from now on over the Super Snipers(which I still adore)... $120.00 cheaper and just as good glass and it tracks perfectly and holds zero. It's a no brainer!

I dislike the stock even more though after shooting it, a better one will definitely help, even if it's just a peace of mind thing.. I miss my palm swell dearly! Oh and it was my friends 1st time shooting, ever. As you can see in the pic, he was quite thrilled  :D He did good with his 7600, awesome rifle for $450.00










Jeez, between this thread, the one of the VTR, and the "Remington wants my money" one, damn it, you're just trying to make me buy another rifle RIGHT NOW!!!!  And a Bushnell Elite 3200 10x40 to go on it, with Burris Tactical rings.   "I'm sorry honey, I know that KOHLS has a great sale this week, but I had to give in to the peer pressure and buy several various Remington varmint and tactical rifles RIGHT NOW, just in case they should STOP MAKING THEM (for some ungoldly reason), you know, before the supply runs out.  I now that they all look alike, and are the same caliber, but whats the difference between me doing that and you needing 700 pairs of shoes??"   ;D :o 8) ;) ::)

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« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2008, 02:15:04 PM »
LOL  ;D :o :o Dale
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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2008, 02:20:00 PM »
Hit the range today for about 4 hours, had my friends new 7600, my new SPS-V, my new 870 tactical and my trusty Sig 226 to shoot so we were busy indeed. Nice warm front moved in so it was about 50, no wind, no rain, beautiful weather but brought a sterno can for the shooting fingers anyways  ;D

The target pic consists of the 1st 6 rounds fired by me @ 200 yards(I skipped 100 lol). The top 3 started high, adjusted the turrets which makes up for the lone middle shot, and the last 2 were after the final turret adjustments and I couldn't be more pleased. This is with American Eagle 150grain FMJ by the way. I shot 20 rounds and looked at the muzzle and copper was everywhere. Gave her a quick field cleaning and shot another 20. I was hitting 20oz water filled bottles @ 300 yards like they were nothin'. Going for bowling pins was far 2 easy, luckily someone had oranges out there and we tossed those up onto the tires and orange mist everywhere :) I cannot tell you how much I love this rifle, oh and the Elite 3200 scope..wow. I'm getting this from now on over the Super Snipers(which I still adore)... $120.00 cheaper and just as good glass and it tracks perfectly and holds zero. It's a no brainer!

I dislike the stock even more though after shooting it, a better one will definitely help, even if it's just a peace of mind thing.. I miss my palm swell dearly! Oh and it was my friends 1st time shooting, ever. As you can see in the pic, he was quite thrilled  :D He did good with his 7600, awesome rifle for $450.00










Jeez, between this thread, the one of the VTR, and the "Remington wants my money" one, damn it, you're just trying to make me buy another rifle RIGHT NOW!!!!  And a Bushnell Elite 3200 10x40 to go on it, with Burris Tactical rings.   "I'm sorry honey, I know that KOHLS has a great sale this week, but I had to give in to the peer pressure and buy several various Remington varmint and tactical rifles RIGHT NOW, just in case they should STOP MAKING THEM (for some ungoldly reason), you know, before the supply runs out.  I now that they all look alike, and are the same caliber, but whats the difference between me doing that and you needing 700 pairs of shoes??"   ;D :o 8) ;) ::)

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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2008, 02:26:00 PM »
You know what's really scary?  I didn't even realize I typed 700 pairs of shoes until I hit the post button.  Hmm, Remington 700 rifle for $700 with 700 rounds of ammo, and no, not $700 on a scope when you can get the Bushy for under $200.   You know what's even scarier?  I think that she really does have 700 pairs of shoes...... ;D

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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2008, 02:34:05 PM »
You know what's really scary?  I didn't even realize I typed 700 pairs of shoes until I hit the post button.  Hmm, Remington 700 rifle for $700 with 700 rounds of ammo, and no, not $700 on a scope when you can get the Bushy for under $200.   You know what's even scarier?  I think that she really does have 700 pairs of shoes...... ;D
You are kidding about how many shoes right? :o Bushnell do they make another fixed power scope with a little more power. Like maybe 16 power. Dale
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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2008, 02:47:46 PM »
You know what's really scary?  I didn't even realize I typed 700 pairs of shoes until I hit the post button.  Hmm, Remington 700 rifle for $700 with 700 rounds of ammo, and no, not $700 on a scope when you can get the Bushy for under $200.   You know what's even scarier?  I think that she really does have 700 pairs of shoes...... ;D
You are kidding about how many shoes right? :o Bushnell do they make another fixed power scope with a little more power. Like maybe 16 power. Dale

Dude, believe me, some days I really do wonder......  I'll see a pair of shoes and ask her "where did those come from?"  She'll say something like "well, I got them at the Shoe Carnival's Buy One pair, get the other 1/2 off sale, you know, when I got the blue shoes, and the brown boots, with the new Nike running shoes and some canvas Keds, with the sandals for summertime".......

Nope, Bushnell only makes the 10x fixed power.  I've been eyeballing a Remington 673 in .308 for a hunting rifle, but that SPS looks awful sweet with that scope on it...oh man oh man.

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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2008, 03:10:04 PM »
Don't forget, this has the heavy barrel so get a good strap if you're going to do some trekking  8)

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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2008, 08:04:47 AM »
Looks like you have a real good shooter. Especially considering the cheap ammo you feed it and getting those results. I have heard good things about the 3200 10x and I was curious to see how it compares side by side...glass wise.. to the SS models.
Pick up a box of Federal Match Golds or Black Hills and see how she does, that ought to make the smile even bigger 8)


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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2008, 10:28:09 AM »
I've got several boxes of Rem Premium Match in the safe, didn't want to waste those on the 1st outing. I'll post reports with all the ammo I try  ;)

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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2008, 02:56:03 AM »
I forgot to mention my opinion of the new X-mark pro trigger after using it...

I love it, that is all  8)

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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2008, 10:49:21 AM »
Whew, had a close call today at Bass Pro.  The SPS Varmints were on sale, $449 (I think that was it, I can't remember now, but it was under $500), but they DID NOT HAVE A .308!!!  I told them that it was blasphemy to not have a heavy barreled Remington 700 in .308, especially for $450.  I told the guy, who wants a .223 or a .204, when they could have a .308?   :D  Jeez.....

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« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2008, 10:59:57 AM »
That sucks and such a good price too! Get used to not finding what you want in .308, it's something I've learned to deal with but it doesn't get any easier  :(


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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2008, 11:12:57 AM »
i've been shooting one of these in .223 for 2 months now, and i love it. put a 3200 5-15 tactical on top of it, and have been feeding it handloads of 40 gr v-maxs over 26.5 grs of varget. as it gets broken in it'sbeen shooting tighter, got my best group yet of .75 @ 100 yards last. weekend
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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2008, 11:36:58 AM »
You have the scope I almost went for. Could ya take a pic of your setup?

I love these Elites. I didn't think this sub 200.00 model would stack up to the Super Snipers but boy was I wrong.

How many of us here have the SPS Varmint now? Gotta be at least 5 and counting  ;)

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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #48 on: February 12, 2008, 01:33:03 PM »
Add one more to the list...mine's a .223 and I took it to the range for the first time last weekend.  I jumped on the Bass Pro deal for $479 with $30 rebate.  Didn't have a lot of time and was really just trying to get it on paper.  It did nickel-sized 5-shot groups at 50 yds with cheap Wolf ammo and a stiff wind.  I've got a ton of the Wolf that I'm trying to use up, then will start working on a load myself...definitely looking forward to a better day (weather-wise) to see what she can really do.

Overall, I really like the rifle, but...I can't say I care a lot for the X-Mark trigger.  I won't say that I hate it, but mine breaks around 4.5 - 5 lbs which I think is way too heavy for a target/varmint rifle.  It's not what I expected after everyone has been talking it up so much.  It looks like the trigger can still be adjusted, but uses allen wrenches instead...anyone know what size?  I didn't seem to have one that fit.

Oh, I topped mine with a Bushnell Banner 6-24 x 40...probably should have spent a little more for a better scope.  I usually go for Nikons or Leupolds, and I can tell a difference.  Just one more thing for the wish list....

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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #49 on: February 12, 2008, 01:57:43 PM »
Welcome to the club!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;) Sounds like it is going to a shooter like the rest of them have been. My SPS Varmint in in the 243. It is pictured below. I am surprised it shot that well with the Wolf ammo. As far a the trigger goes I agree it is to heavy and I need to get my gunsmith to lighten it up. Other than it being to heavy I think it is a great trigger. No creep at all and breaks like a glass rod. I had the same scope as you and sold it. The reason being the point of impact would change when I changed the power setting on it. If I were you I would check yours for flaw because My scope was not the only one that was doing it. Others on this site have reported the same problem. Good luck to you and your new rifle. Dale
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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #50 on: February 12, 2008, 02:18:16 PM »
Thanks for posting those results, sniperVLS. The SPS is shooting great right from start and with American Eagle! Let us know what it does with the premium ammo. If my conservation club had a long distance rifle range I would probably be picking up a SPS Varmint .308 too! My range is only 100 yard max. I had owned a 700VS and a 700P ,  both in .308. I really should have not sold the VS . It was my first ever 700 , back then only $490 for a HS stocked 700! If the Neptune-like weather here ever subsides I am going back out with my SPS .223.

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« Reply #51 on: February 12, 2008, 05:18:38 PM »
The VS was and still is highly sought after, I passed on one a few years back and still regret it. I may have to pick up an used one someday :)

VolFan9183, the difference between the new Xmark and the old style is that out of the box, these new triggers have little to no creep whatsoever. I have never had one out of the box that had no creep like this new Xmark and I've gone thru close to 15 700's in the past 2 decades. It still might take 4 to 5 lbs to pull but when you remove the creep and get it to break so nice, it makes for a better day at the range. I could have swore my trigger had a regular screw for adjustment and it wasn't an allen key. I'll look at it again when I put the new stock on.

Over the years I've messed with several Banner models and learned my lesson. They aren't terrible by any means but for a few $$ more, much better can be had. Don't count out the Bushnell Elite models, they are every bit as good as higher priced models from other makers and their warranty is excellent.

*As far as the Wolf ammo....shoot it up and don't bother with it again. That is some of the most inconsistent ammo out there. We chrono'd some .223 a couple years back and almost every bullet was different by a couple hundred fps, that's horrendous if you have a rifle that you expect consistency from, it can be very frustrating. I am honestly stunned you got the groupings you did. Open her up and use that ammo, I guarantee that at 200 and further you'll see why you paid so little for it.

LOL I remember when I bought my AR-15, a piece of paper that accompanied the rifle specifically stated to stay away from Wolf ammunition. I didn't listen but it seems that's how I learn  :D

I am going to try some Black Hills 168 grain A-Max when this weather breaks, I'll give a report as usual. I'll be stretching Kates legs(yes I named it) and shooting between 2 and 500 yards next time.

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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #52 on: February 22, 2008, 02:46:04 PM »
The H-S stock arrived today but didn't have much time to check it out other than I need get the dremel out and remove some of the interior. the new trigger, safety side, rubs against it so I can't move it from safe to fire smoothly. I'll get to it this weekend. I snapped some quick pics,  I apologize for the crappy pics  :o







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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #53 on: February 22, 2008, 03:23:34 PM »
Yeah when I tried to install my SPS into my HS stock I noticed the same thing in regards to the safety mechanism rubbing. Since I had a Jewell on order I ended up never firing it with the stock trigger. The SPS looks nice in that 700P style HS stock! I fired my SPS .223 for only the 3rd range session last weekend and shot my best group with it. I think I have already found my accuracy load.

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« Reply #54 on: February 22, 2008, 03:49:24 PM »
The H-S stock arrived today but didn't have much time to check it out other than I need get the dremel out and remove some of the interior. the new trigger, safety side, rubs against it so I can't move it from safe to fire smoothly. I'll get to it this weekend. I snapped some quick pics,  I apologize for the crappy pics  :o







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SniperVLS. Looks great!!!!!!!! Would mind telling me the cost of that stock? I really do like it and still plan on buying your SPS stock in the near future just so I can have a whole rifle again. When I can afford it the SPS stock on mine will be replaced. Thanks Dale
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« Reply #55 on: February 23, 2008, 01:55:21 AM »
Direct links to un-shrunken pics...
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Dale my pal, it was $294.00 from Midway(I emailed before I ordered to verify it was in stock and they had 28 as of 2 weeks ago but they go fast). If you want to get it directly from H-S it's $334.00.. You can get them used and in great condition for 170 - 225 but they go FAST on other Forums. This model is a very popular one seeing as it's the 700 Police style. I responded to a thread where one was for sale, it was gone within 10 minutes.

I will go on record saying that with the default stock from the factory, the SPS Varmint was exceptionally accurate. Even if it doesn't shoot any better, I will have gotten my moneys worth just from the feeling of this stock, and some may be afraid to admit it but I appreciate a rifle more when I get tingly when looking at it from afar. I didn't get that with the original stock, but now....oh baby! lol Yes I have issues  ;D $300 is a small amount for Peace of Mind.

Mr. 700 223, the Jewel popped right in with no sanding/grinding needed? I'm a tad jealous but I'm not one to shy away from a little work so I'm looking forward to making this right. Hope it turns out good, I wont know till the weather permits me to hit the range. H-S needs to remove the little bit I'll be removing, that way it would work with BOTH Remmy triggers. I'll shoot them an email about it knowing I probably wont get a response. What model stock did you get if I may ask?

The original stock is sitting in the safe Dale so no worries, take your time.

Here's a pic of what I need to remove within the stock.. should only take a second with the rotary tool.
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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #56 on: February 23, 2008, 02:09:39 AM »
That stock looks great,how heavy is it compered to the take off?
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« Reply #57 on: February 23, 2008, 06:56:45 AM »
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What model stock did you get if I may ask?

Here is my SPS installed in the HS stock. Not a good pic on the living room floor. This camera does not take indoor pictures very well. Really looks better (to me) than this shows:



Mine is a stock that came off one of the "old" 700 VS series. Now it basically looks just like a 700VS without bolt jewelling. I always thought the jewelling looked a little out of place on an all black rifle anyway! I won this on eBay early last year for $190 so I was very pleased!

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Mr. 700 223, the Jewel popped right in with no sanding/grinding needed?

The Jewell I bought for the SPS was a benchrest model with no safety , just a bolt release so there was no clearance issues. My old Jewell trigger which has been used on 3 different 700s does have a safety and fit into 2 different HS stocks with no issues - a 700P and my current 700 LTR. In my old VLS with laminated stock I did have to break out a dremel for the safety to operate without binding.

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« Reply #58 on: February 23, 2008, 09:28:02 AM »
SniperVLS. Does that stock have the cheek piece like the original stock has? It is hard to tell from the pictures. Could you take a picture of the left side? Thanks Dale
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Re: Finally ordered SPS Varmint!
« Reply #59 on: February 23, 2008, 11:27:37 AM »
NONYA....

I thought it would be quite a bit heavier but maybe 1/2 a lb more?

700 223....

Awesome stock you have there, and I agree... the bolt on the VS always did look out of place to me as well. Your rifle looks awesome! I believe the VS stock is the same as the original Senderos stock, they didn't have the palm swell yet. If you ever see a VS stock like yours for sale, Please shoot me a message, I would like one very much. I think I may get another SPS-V in 22-250 soon and the VS stock would be my choice for that rifle.

DALE....

This stock does Not have a cheek piece.

Well it's time to sand out that piece  8)

Update: Its finished! Safety works and it's got a millimeter or 2 to spare from the inside wall. I want another SPS-V in another caliber and do the same thing with it but add a different H-S stock. The VTR may come 1st though, this obsession never goes away does it  ???

Large versions...
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/snipervls/police4.jpg?t=1203814600
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/snipervls/police2.jpg?t=1203814215




Final Price on everything: [Includes Tax and/or S&H]

700 SPS Varmint 308= $610.00
Bushnell Elite 3200 10X w/Mildot= $185.00
Burris Xtreme Tactical 1" Rings= $42.00
Burris Xtreme Tactical 2 piece Bases= $15.00
H-S Precision PST12 Police stock= $306.00

Total= $1,158.00

Umm so Ok, not cheap as I was hoping it would be but worth every penny!