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25 Conspiracy Mongers Decry Nine-Eleven...
« on: January 15, 2008, 08:37:59 AM »
The article, Twenty-five U.S. Military Officers Challenge Official Account of 9/11 – Official Account of 9/11: “Impossible”, “A Bunch of Hogwash”, “Total B.S.”, “Ludicrous”, “A Well-Organized Cover-up”, “A White-Washed Farce” was published today on OpEdNews.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_alan_mil_080112_twenty_five_u_s__mil.htm


The article details severe criticism of the official account of 9/11 by:

* General Albert Stubblebine, former commander of U.S. Army Intelligence
* Col. Ronald D. Ray, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense
* Major John M. Newman, PhD, former Executive Assistant to the Director of the National Security Agency
* Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, PhD, former staff member of the Director of the National Security Agency
* Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter
* And 20 other officers

The nerve of these guys....TM7

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Re: 25 Conspiracy Mongers Decry Nine-Eleven...
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2008, 09:44:20 AM »
Their are always a lot of folks to talk about how things didn't happen couldn't happen wouldn't
happen, but they never know how it happened, just B.S.
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Re: 25 Conspiracy Mongers Decry Nine-Eleven...
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2008, 11:46:24 AM »
I know this is a ton of research, statements, and back-up on a topic, that will never reach consensus...like global warming or big foot...I guess my question still has to be.......how do you get so many to pull off something so huge.....and have everyone remain quiet...?  I mean , would there not be ONE person, who was supposedly on a plane that crashed...or was included in the conversation.......come out and say ...I KNOW this is  a conspiracy , and I have proof !!!!     In this age of cell phones, recording devices, covert intelligence, and cameras or microphones literally everywhere....would there not be ONE person ,actually with verbatim testimony?   Naming names, times of meetings, dates, strategies...back up plans....cover up "playbooks".......I mean , this thing would have to be HUGE in scope and number of people.....   I am asking, not saying anyone is right or wrong....I am asking....
“when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government.”

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Re: 25 Conspiracy Mongers Decry Nine-Eleven...
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2008, 11:59:45 AM »
Exactly my point.  If we can find out the President of the US had oral sex from an intern in his office when only the 2 of them were present, and 9/11 conspiracy must have involved a lot of people, I find it hard to swallow that it is true.
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Re: 25 Conspiracy Mongers Decry Nine-Eleven...
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2008, 08:56:37 AM »
I'm still a skeptic.  Just because ex military or spooks are investigatilng, I'm skeptical of their motives.  I don't think they would investigate on their own money without some special interest.  Like preachers, these men too, have personal opinions that taint the results of any investigation.  I'm not saying they are, but I certainly have my doubts.  I doubt those crusaders who's fervent dedication toward enlightening the populace of any so called impropieties, as subject to emotional conclusions and not the result of physical evidence that may look deceiving.
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Re: 25 Conspiracy Mongers Decry Nine-Eleven...
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2008, 04:31:20 AM »
4 planes with NO passengers.
where are the stories of people that where told WE ARE CANCELING THIS FLIGHT?
where are the stories of the people that were told no flight, I have not heard one story, from a
person that SHOULD have been on one of the canceled flights.


we have some fire ant hills here in TX. maybe we could flag some of them and some folks could
come out and make us some nice mountains. ::) did i really say that?
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Re: 25 Conspiracy Mongers Decry Nine-Eleven...
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2008, 03:43:43 AM »
Ok...so the officials saying the things they are are "higher ups".....fine...here's what I expect to see, if this is really a world class cover up......I expect to see...ONE.....just ONE of the folks presumed dead....on with 60 minutes.....showing file footage of his wife/ survivors at his "funeral".....I expect to see this mans wife and children with him ON 60 minutes....I expect a full scale one hour explanation of how, when , and why it happened.....and, more importantly , WHO told him he was to do this......WHO provided money for him to live on ....how much was he given...WHO is it from.     Next, I wanna know why insurance companies...that I am sure paid out life insurance benefits on the "so called" dead....have not been up in arms and had series of investigations to find these people , if they are in fact, all lying, and still alive and well in RIOLinda...I mean , people file workman's comp claims....and then get caught on tape.....digging a post hole in the backyard , putting up a fence, when they say they cannot pick up a 5 pound box at work.......people cannot just vanish......all the relatives of the flight in Pennsylvania....where are they?    where are their stories of lies and fraud?   Name me ONE person....one, who says ......I am still alive, and I know this was a moral betrayal of the Country I love and grew up in, and I am not gonna sit here anymore....I don't care what happens to me, the truth must be heard......".............until that happens......this is exactly what it is , all unsubstantiated rumors and speculation .......military experts or not......Hey, I am not saying I am the do all , end all, with any knowledge  that trumps your research.......All I know is, the next Mike Wallace, or Anderson Cooper, or Herraldo , would give his CAREER to break a story like this.....I have yet to see one person show up, that should be dead........oh sure, I hear all the stories of the hijackers alive and well in some Middle Eastern Country ......but IF that same Middle East, with the ire and hate they have for us DID have those men alive....well, would it not totally derail ANY validity we have as a country ......??? Would they not use it against us, as THE number one reason why we are there illegally in the first place???? 
If Iran's President.....knew those men were alive.....do you not think CNN would get a call, and he would say , "Do I have a story for YOU".....again .....and this is just MY opinion.....until that happens....there is not proof of conspiracy.....yes physics says a bldg cant fall that way......physics also says a bumble bee cant fly.....mathematicians can create an equation where 1 equals 2......life is life....nature is nature....it happened...and folks will still search for the why, and the who......I just have not seen proof that convinces me....it may be out there.......but no one, seems to make a believer out of any Major cable news network....or any mainstream paper.....Editors and producers want proof....real proof before they "GO" with a story ....that has not happened either......lots of documentary style offerings...yes.....but no one is putting their name on it as the truth ....simply questioning others explanations....and in the name of free speech, letting them have air time......there are plenty of BigFoot documentaries too, and Ghost hunters.....but no one at History Channel, comes on after and says...."The reason we air these...is because they are factual"....again , just my opinion....and t means nothing , except to me...
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Re: 25 Conspiracy Mongers Decry Nine-Eleven...
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2008, 11:44:58 AM »
I too decry 9/11.  But I don't believe it was a conspriracy by the US government or Israel.  The latest news from Al Quada today in a tape from Zawahri.
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Bin Laden's Deputy Says Iran Trying to Undermine Al Qaeda
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CAIRO, Egypt —  Al Qaeda's No. 2 leader issued a new audiotape Tuesday accusing Shiite Iran of spreading a conspiracy theory about who carried out the Sept. 11 attacks to discredit the power of the Sunni terrorist network.

One questioner asked about the theory that has circulated in the Middle East and elsewhere that Israel was behind the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Al-Zawahri accused Hezbollah's Al-Manar television of starting the rumor. "The purpose of this lie is clear — (to suggest) that there are no heroes among the Sunnis who can hurt America as no else did in history. Iranian media snapped up this lie and repeated it," he said.

Al Qaeda has previously claimed responsibility for the Sept. 11 attacks. 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352183,00.html

Now this is from the horses mouth that Al Quada did in fact commit 9/11.  So if Al Quada committed 9/11, then it is obvious that the US or Israel did not.  Israel is definitely out of the conspriracy as Al Quada would not enter into any complicity with Israel regarding a coverup.  I don't think the US would either enter into any compact with Al Quada to kill 3,000 civilians, destroy 4 jet liners, thousands of wounded and injured just so Al Quada could take credit for it and disrupt the Middle East.  Any evidence to the contrary, is ridiculous and slanted to obtain results wanted. instead of objective facts determining the outcome.  Do we hear any appologies for being in error and expousing conspiracy with the result of spreading hate and discontent?


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Re: 25 Conspiracy Mongers Decry Nine-Eleven...
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2008, 02:22:03 PM »
I refuse to discuss with those, who will not or cannot, understand logic.  Very shortly after 9/11, Al Qaida claimed responsibility for terrorist attack.  This is before we had any invasions, of either Iraq or Afghanistan by the military.  With this latest tape, Zawahri confirmed again, Al Quada's part in 9/11.  Yes, he is at odds with Iran currently, but that does not deter from the fact that Al Qaida did commit the terrorist attack on 9/11.  The only contradictions in the tape is that the Muslims are having a contorversy over power factions.  It is too bad that you cannot find any other research on this, as it was presented on Fox tv, Good Morning America, CNN morning news, all on tv.  You sure find enough other research that suppports only your opinion regarding the occurences on 9/11.  These are the facts, as admitted by Al Qaida and no one, not even you, can dispute their claim by presenting supposition and conjecture.  
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