10mm glock

[skit]

i want to talk about the 10mm glock. who likes it. who hates it. what are the reasons? i think i want one. major reasons to want one are bear defense. i live in bear country. north of 60. tell me what you think. i have 44 mag, and it is brutally effective, but hard to handle with the really effective loads. is the 10mm glock going to be at least a good second runner with a better mag capacity and easier recoil recovery? lay it on me!

[Savage]

This probably belongs in the Glock Forum, but----------as you asked.
There is certainly a lot of firepower in the Glock 20, and there's a lot to be said about being able to make multiple rapid hits on an attacking animal. With hard cast LSWCs in the 200gr range, it just might do the job. I would consider the 10mm marginal for this purpose, being only slightly better than the .357 in the ballistics dept. You might be better served with the .44. (if it's DA) With a little practice you should be be able to control it durring rapid fire. Doubt that you'd ever need it for bear, but ya never know!!!
Savage

[Mikey]

Skit:  why spend the $ on a 10mm, or a Glock, when you already have a handgun that is brutally effective on the bear that concern you.  If it is difficult to control the recoil on some of those heavier loads, then spend the $ you would for a 10mm Glock to get reloading equipment to tame the 44 mag down a bit.  You do not need a monster load in the 44 to effectively handle bear, even some of the larger ones.  300 to 325 gn hard cast slugs from a 44 at over 1000'/sec will suffice for bear and the recoil is manageable for multiple shots. 

I like the 10mm bore, but even a 200 gn 10mm cast semi wadcutter, loaded hot to 1100-1200'/sec is not going to have the penetration of a 200 gn semi wadcutter 357 traveling at 1300'/sec.

If you really want a 10mm Glock I will not discourage you but I would discourage the approach to using it for bear defense.  It is not a 'second runner up' to the 44.  It may be a second runner up to the 41 magnum but the difference twixt the 41 and the 44 still makes me think you should save your money, and practice with the 44.  JMTCW.  Mikey.

[STJ]

IMO the 10mm (loaded up) is a good deer round.  I would go with 300gr WFNs at around 1200fps for a good handling 44 mag round.

But then brown bears have been know to fall to the 9mm...multiple 9mms 

[HAMMERHEAD]

I like the Glock 20, but have to agree with the others, the 10mm auto is just not a brown bear round.

Spend the money on a case of .44 special ammo or reloading supplies and practice with your revolver. I have a lot of pistols, but I would not hesitate to grab my RedHawk if I were headed north.

[skit]

thanks for the input guys.

[myronman3]

i dont know what "north of the 60" means,  but are we talking brown bears or blacks?  my brother uses a glock 20, and i have shot it alot.  one is in my future and is the next gun i will get.   they are light,  fast to get into action, reliable and powerful.  easy enough to handle the recoil, also.   we use 180 grain hardcast flat nose bullets,  and they pack a wallop.   we did some testing on steel, and you wouldnt believe what they will penetrate.   combine them with a blackhawk thigh holster and you have the best black bear PROTECTION pistol in my opinion.  grizzlys i dont know about.   blackies, between my brother and i,  last year ran into probably about 40 bears.  one big one was closer than i EVER want to be to a live bear again, 1 foot off the end of my muzzle.   

[wyocarp]

I own a 10 mm Glock and it is a nice pistol.  But I don't think that it would be the best bear gun.  It is the minimum that I carry in the woods but most of the time I carry something much bigger.  Of course the opposite can happen.  While bear hunting, I found myself possibly overgunned with two 500's (one with a scope).  I spooked four mountain lions and had two of them charge me.  The 500 gr. bullets went through them of course.  By the way, don't talk to me about bullet placement.  There isn't much time for that when being charged, especially with multiple targets waisting little time.  But the biologist said one bullet went through the heart, one through the lung, and one through the shoulder of one of the cats and it didn't slow down as quickly as I would have liked.  There was a nice blood trail.