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Offline SM Bob

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Range Report 1-19-08
« on: January 19, 2008, 03:15:59 PM »
Hit the range today. It was a bit windy today. Steady 10 mph with gusts
up to 20 at times. My Handi Hornet was it's usual deadly self.



This was the best group for the Hornet today, but with the wind it was averaging a little over
an inch at 100 yards. A lot better than my 17M2 was doing, that's for sure!
The real story today was my 223 bull barrel Handi. This rifle from day one has  been somewhat
of a challenge to find a powder and bullet combination that it likes. I think I have finally found it.



The Sierra 55gr Spitzer sp and 26 grains of BLC2. It seemed to be the most consistent load so
far. I still need to do some forend work, but I know I'm on the right track. I also know that I
need to get some better rings. Right now I'm using some cheap Leuopold Rifleman $16 jobs.
The old saying holds true, "You get what you pay for!" I'm looking at some Burris Signature Z's
or some Warne Maxima's.

                                                             Robert
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2008, 05:37:08 PM »
That's some mighty fine shooting there SM Bob.
Morgan
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2008, 06:11:10 PM »

SMB,

Always rewarding when you get something that works...good shooting & I like your pics! :D

Doc
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2008, 06:56:48 PM »
Hunerd yard dogs just better look out...... Mr. SM Bob is out and on it!!!!
Don't ya love it when a plan comes together?

Bill
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2008, 07:45:29 PM »
Quote from: AZHoosier on January 19, 2008, 06:56:48 PM
Hunerd yard dogs just better look out...... Mr. SM Bob is out and on it!!!!
Don't ya love it when a plan comes together?

Bill

Yes Sir Mr AZHoosier I certainly do! I just ordered 300 more Sierra 55gr Spitzers
and a set of Burris Sig Z's.
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2008, 12:12:55 AM »
Looking good.   Nice job.

What problem are you having with the Leupold rings?

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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2008, 01:08:42 AM »
Yes, whats up with the Leupold rings? How did you trace a problem to them?....<><....:?
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2008, 01:42:02 AM »

 Those rings Leopold rifleman is all I every use.
 Never had a problem, I think they good for a handi. Just MHO!
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2008, 02:12:29 AM »
None of the expensive rings work any better than the Weaver rings.  They are all I use.
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2008, 03:05:09 AM »
+1 on the weaver rings,I use medium rings on my handis and grind just enough off of hammer so it will clear the scope.Puts scope just right for me.Looks like you got both rifles dialed in pretty good!!
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2008, 04:02:49 AM »
I agree, there is no coyote, fox, crow, woodchuck, or prairie dog that is going to argue with those guns at that distance the way they are shooting so far. Do you really think a $50 or $100 set of rings will tighten up those groups?....<><....:)
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2008, 05:56:03 AM »
I have lapped the rings, cleaned them up, put them together using blue Loctite,
tightened them as tight as they will go, and still the scope moves. The cross hairs
go from straight up and down to looking like an "X". This even happens with my
22 LR and a couple of other rifles that I have them on. I have them on my Hornet
and they work fine. I just think I need something more solid. If your scope is moving
like that accuracy suffers big time. Not to mention it is frustrating as hell. I know
a lot of people here like the Burris Sig Z's, so I am going with them.

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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2008, 06:03:23 AM »
Nice shooting Robert, and good choice on the rings, at last count I had over 30 sets of Sig Zees. ;)

Tim
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2008, 12:45:05 PM »
I've used every sort of cheap rings known to man, and I've never seen a scope turn in the rings even on a .45-70 with hot loads.
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2008, 01:17:15 PM »
It just happened to me on a 35 whelen. Im gonna try the 2 sided sticky tape Idea.    Nice shooting brother.  If spending a couple xtra bucks on a set of rings means piece of mind, its money well spent. Ill send you my address ,You can send me the rifleman rings ;)
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2008, 01:57:15 PM »
 :D :D ;D
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2008, 02:08:45 PM »
I've had scopes slide forward from recoil, but the only turning I've read about is the reticle inside the scope rotating, not the entire scope.  ???

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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2008, 02:24:01 PM »
The scopes are definitely rotating. I didn't even have to look close at
the turrets to see that. If it only happened on one, oh well. Two,
wait a minute. 3 or more, time to flush this turd!

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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2008, 03:39:01 PM »
A tiny dab of clear silicone sealant(RTV) between rings and scope will stop all movement in any direction.

"reticle inside the scope rotating"

Is quite common.
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2008, 04:38:19 PM »
Nice shooting maybe your lapping the rings to much. Kurt
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2008, 04:40:32 PM »
Nope, My scope was rotating as is was sliding forward. just ever so slightly, but enough to notice & enough to move my group around.
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2008, 01:40:04 AM »
Hello SM Bob, Thanks for the range report. Both you're Hornet and 223 are shooting great.
About the Rifleman rings, Are they the vertically split rings or are they the standard type Rifleman rings?
I've been using the Vertically split Riflemans on some of my handguns and they have worked great. Just wondering which type is giving you trouble, thanks.

GOOD SHOOTING!
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2008, 02:19:49 PM »
Slufoot,
Here they are.

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=722296&t=11082005

Kurt,
No I didn't lap them too much. There is still plenty of gap on each side after they are tightened
down.

                                             Robert
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2008, 10:44:56 AM »
I put a set of riflemen rings on my 454 BFR for grins and chuckles.  Problem was I ended up being impressed!  It took over 75 rounds before I noticed a ring mark.  I gave a slight tightening on the rings and it has held fast for another 50 so far.  The scope is a Swift 4-32, can't break the darned things. ;D


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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2008, 11:29:14 AM »
If you got a Swift to hold together for more than a cylinder full, you're a mighty lucky man.
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Re: Range Report 1-19-08
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2008, 01:56:06 PM »
So far! ;)

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