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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2008, 06:09:46 PM »
The trigger on it is crisp and clean. It has no creep or grittiness and no over travel that I can tell. But it's not consistent in pull. It breaks between 66 oz and 84 oz with no two in five the same. I guess for a hunting gun I could live with that if I had to but I'd rather see it down between 48 and 52 oz really. I don't particularly care for less than three pounds and if lighter than 2-3/4 pounds or 44 oz I feel they are too light for a hunting rifle at least for me.

When I get around to messing with this one I'll pull it from the stock and see what's going to be involved in getting the pull weight screw cleaned out to adjust it just enough to get the pull down to three pounds give or take 4 oz. I hope it will settle in and be more consistent as well but really I can live with a spread of a pound if the high and low don't drop much below 2-3/4 pounds and the high much over 3.5 pounds.

I'm really not looking for 1/4 or even 1/2 MOA from the rifle for what I'll use it for however some previous Model Seven's have delivered accuracy in that range so I'd also not be surprised if it does.


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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2008, 06:38:06 AM »
  The only problem I have with the instructions as they are written is that after rereading them several times, it is very easy to create an unsafe trigger without specific instructions on how the sear should be set. There is a minimum amount of sear surface that needs to stay in contact in order for the trigger to stay safe. The instructions lead one to believe that there is a balance point between the trigger pull weight and sear to create a great feeling trigger and still be safe. That is not true, and could potentially lead to an unwanted discharge even after doing the bounce test and slamming the bolt home hard! If you do not understand exactly how the sear functions and the minimum specs on the sear contact area, don't touch it. Take the gun to a gunsmith and have the trigger adjusted.
  Remington's old owners manual used to tell you how to adjust the trigger and that was only with the pull weight screw. These instructions are incomplete in several ways. They may give you a better feeling trigger but not a great trigger, and possibly not a safe trigger.

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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2008, 07:24:42 AM »
The pull weight screw is the ONLY one I ever adjust or recommend adjusting.


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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2008, 08:39:19 PM »
I had to adjust the sear engagement screw on mine, I would say the bottom of the trigger moved a good 1/4" before engaging the sear.  Waaaaaayyyy too much. 
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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2008, 04:19:46 AM »
I don't mean to jump in here but I've read instructions from several sources about adjusting Rem triggers and I've adjusted a bunch and they say and I subscribe to "don't mess with the sear adjustment".  Using the wgt of pull and over travel, I've been able to get what I wanted.  I'll shut up now.

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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #35 on: May 05, 2008, 12:42:54 PM »
Remington's  new catalog says "an adjustable trigger for the sportsman, who has a qualified gunsmith adjust it",  they really want someone qualified to do it.   I thing adjusting the trigger is kinda like jumping out of an airplane with a parachute, you gotta get it right the first time.  No second chances allowed.   Anyway the my humble opinion.  I paid a qualified gunsmith to adjust mine, it cost me $40.00 to have it done but it shoots well and is consistent.  Had it adjusted to a clear crisp 3#  on my Model 700.  those weren't exactly the words used in the quote but close to it.

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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #36 on: May 05, 2008, 03:51:18 PM »
If you have money to burn on smiths why read how tos?Ohh thats right so you can tell us we arnt doing things properly....
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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2008, 09:30:56 AM »
Cole what happened to your photos to go with this thread?


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« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2008, 05:58:11 PM »
Photobucket decided to "remove" all my pics that had firearms in them,no notice just gone,every pic that didnt is still there.
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« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2008, 06:16:33 PM »
That is just wrong!!!!!! What I do is after I make a post. I go to the additional options and upload them from my hard drive. That way they will be in the GBO system and will never be lost. Dale
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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2008, 06:28:08 PM »
Photobucket decided to "remove" all my pics that had firearms in them,no notice just gone,every pic that didnt is still there.


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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2008, 06:31:23 PM »
Here are some photos I took of the X-Mark Pro trigger assembly on my Remington Model Seven Predator today while adjusting the trigger.









And here are both rifles after working the triggers and adding the scopes.



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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #42 on: May 28, 2008, 04:39:18 PM »
Bill how accurate is your Mod 7? I have been looking at that model and I think I am going to get one. I haven't adjusted the new Xmark Pro Trigger but have done many Std. Rem 700 triggers.


If you mess up on the sear adjustment you have a mess. I done that on the first Mod700 trigger I adjusted and it took a while to get my process so its easy and now all of mine have crisp triggers and it costed nothing.
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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2008, 01:07:17 PM »
The Model Seven Predator in .17 Fireball is super accurate. It's shooting half inch groups at 100 with factory ammo. On Saturday I hit every prairie dog I shot at with it and missed darn few the whole trip. The wind was the only reason to miss as those little 20 grain pills can get pushed around with the wind blowing 35-45 mph.


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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #44 on: June 03, 2008, 04:00:42 PM »
Thanks Ill have to look at some more seriously. Good to hear the shoot went well.
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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #45 on: June 27, 2008, 01:09:56 PM »
I just bought a new 700 and all I did was to back off on the weight screw. The trigger feels really good. Haven't shot the gun yet tho. Tomorrow morning! Getting a very itchy trigger finger. Dave

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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2008, 07:49:59 AM »
I found this site on adjusting the Mod.700 trigger. http://www.quarterbore.com/library/articles/rem700trigger.html I tried it and it worked for me.Also in removing the adhesive,try one of those long tipped BBQ propane lighters.Heat up the screw a little and it makes it real easy to remove it.

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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2008, 02:42:13 AM »
Several years back, Remington used to enclude instructions for adjusting 700 triggers with each rifle? I gress the liabilty got to be too much for them.
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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #48 on: August 26, 2008, 05:43:21 AM »
Just purchased a Rem SPS varmint in 308. I was looking for information on trigger pull, adjustment, etc. I would say that your thread is on the money, thanks for all that valuable info.

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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #49 on: October 17, 2008, 06:30:28 AM »
Nonya, did you write that article from your own personal experience of working on Remingtons?
Unless this website stole it from Nonya's post, then with the exception of the first two paragraphs on this site - http://www.theoutdoorwriter.com/shooting/r700_trigger_2.htm - Nonya copied and pasted the instructions into his post.  IMHO, that takes some serious cajones.  If I did that with academic papers without acknowledging the source, I would be kicked out of my graduate school. 
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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #50 on: October 17, 2008, 07:22:19 AM »
Nonya, did you write that article from your own personal experience of working on Remingtons?
Unless this website stole it from Nonya's post, then with the exception of the first two paragraphs on this site - http://www.theoutdoorwriter.com/shooting/r700_trigger_2.htm - Nonya copied and pasted the instructions into his post.  Not saying this is a bad thing, but if I did that with academic papers without acknowledging the source, I would be kicked out of my graduate school. 
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Thank you Selmer. I had found the same site way back then and wanted to see if NONYA was going to give himself credit for the article because he sure wasn't citing any references, but I didn't pursue it. I agree that if your going to use a source different than your own, then cite the source and give the real author(s) the credit they deserve.
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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #51 on: October 17, 2008, 07:58:22 AM »
The question was asked, that's why I responded.  It's the same site I used to adjust my M700, that's why I recognized it. 
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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #52 on: October 17, 2008, 12:54:13 PM »
It appears to be pure, unadulterated, plagiarism. Stealing someone's intellectual property is not really different than stealing the contents of their vault. I wonder if NONYA realizes that the real author might have posted the article on his own site so that people would read it there rather than on someone else's site? Although it is excellent information, the real, original author, should have been given credit for his work.
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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #53 on: October 17, 2008, 05:37:29 PM »
Wow, I kept my response gentle because I thought I'd get ostracized for ratting him out.  I was pretty pissed about the plagiarism as well, but didn't want to rock the boat too hard.  I guess I won't hold back next time.  Yes, it ticks me off royally that he directly copied and pasted it into this post with absolutely zero acknowledgement of the original author OR responding to the question of the source.  I will now go edit my earlier post.
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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #54 on: October 17, 2008, 07:14:02 PM »
Selmer, deep down, I sort of figured it bothered you because if it hadn't, you probably wouldn't have brought it up in the first place (I understand the rules about plagiarism at Grad School and they are stiff). And now that you said it the way it really is, I see that my statement about wasting time is out of line and will be changed to reflect that.
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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #55 on: October 18, 2008, 03:38:29 AM »
Not trying to take up for Nonya (who has since posting this been banned by Matt for his behavior) but this thing has floated around so commonly for so long it's entirely possible he has no clue what the original source is. Quite honestlly I don't.


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« Reply #56 on: October 18, 2008, 03:53:56 AM »
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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #57 on: November 01, 2008, 10:01:55 PM »
Hello all.  I tried the trigger adjustments on my Rem 700's ( 4 varmits & 1 sporter). Bad triggers only became worse. I solved the problem by investing in Jewell triggers. Ordered them from the factory set for 1lb for the varmits and 1 1/2 lb for the sporter. End of problem. Best money I've ever spent. Sweetest trigger I've ever pulled. I replaced the timmney trigger I had previously put on the sporter because the safety kept jamming. I know I'm a novice but I can follow instructions. When I got down to 3 - 3 1/2lbs adjusting the rems---further adjustments to lighten the pull broke the harmony of "creep and pull" and things only got worst. Jewell triggers solved my rem trigger problems.
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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #58 on: November 02, 2008, 02:31:53 AM »
I've, personally, owned over a dozen Remington 700s with no issues, ever, with the trigger pull? I have reset(the weight of pull) some of these from the original factory instructions sent with rifles years ago, still no problems. If you guys think Remington triggers are bad, you should of owned or used some that I've used(old Savage's, Howa's, etc.).
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Re: Mdl 700 trigger ADJUSTMENT how to
« Reply #59 on: January 09, 2009, 09:49:23 AM »
Here's a cutaway picture of the New Mark X trigger.  I copied it directly from Remington's website.  I only adjusted the weight of pull screw which made for a very acceptable trigger pull.



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