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"What is it? Where is it?" Tie-breaker Photo on Mon. Night
« on: January 26, 2008, 02:16:33 PM »
          The second, (just for fun!)  “What is it?  Where is it?” contest. Tie-breaker Photo on Mon. Night


    The last time we did this, about five months ago, all who participated had a lot of fun and learned a few things too, not from us, but from their fellow GBO Cannon and Mortar board members.  Most, but not all, of these cannon were seen by Mike and I on our 2007 research trip through New York and the New England states.  After four years of covering the southern states and the seacoast forts that abound there, we felt a little guilty for ignoring the northeast.  Double D was declared the “Cannon Hunter Extraordinaire” for solving all of them, last time.  Now, we have lots of new members and also lots of very sharp longer-term members, so, who knows? 

     Please remember, this is just for fun; every answer will be treated with respect and nobody takes any of this seriously, at all.  So, even if you can locate just one or two, that will be appreciated by all, just like last time.

     The answer should contain the common name, model # or description, or name/date of the cannon pictured AND the cannon’s location, (fort name, town, museum or city, AND state).

     Mike and I will post a listing of only those member-posted answers which are correct for three nights and then award the “Cannon Hunter Extraordinaire” title to the member who contributed the largest number of correct answers.

Last year’s winner, Double D, gave a valuable resource up when he said, “Google is my friend.”  We say, artillery books, vacation trips, atlas maps, etc., etc. are all beneficial.

Good luck!!

Mike and Tracy



1.  On our trip we followed Route 2 through Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine.
     The sign reads: Route 2 Diner.  The name on the green delivery van is: Naples     
     Packing Co., Inc.




2.  Captured from the H.M.S. Detroit.  Sorry, the location is not Ft. Niagara.
     Battle of Lake Erie. American victory in 1813.  Prize cannon from Brit. flagship.





3.  One of the  “Hudson River School”  painters who painted that mountain in the distance
     was F.A. Silva, "A View of Storm King (Mtn.) On The Hudson".
     The photo was taken at 10:30 A.M. in early April of 2004.





4.  This ain’t Brooklyn!





5.  Hint:  1862, 1917(RR gun carriage seen thru hole), and 1946.  Name the 1862 rifles
     pictured.  Cannonmn, please restrain yourself!  Oops, another clue given!  General
     Jubal Early challenged this city in 1864.





6.  The largest gun being fired on a regular basis in the United States today.
     Small state-big gun.  water, water everywhere.   





7.  From the breech to the reach, this photo displays a cannon located in one of the most
     famous batteries in the history of  The War Between the States.  The first U.S. Marine,
     Medal of Honor was won under the guns of this elevated battery. Name the gun, the
     Battery(either name will do), the river and the state.





8.  There are four of these 100 Pdr. Parrott rifles within about 60 miles of Lake George,
     NY.  They are in Bristol, VT, Whitehall, NY, Fairhaven, VT, and Dresden, NY.  The
     gun pictured is on the west side of a very steep hill, almost a cliff, at the end of a very 
     narrow, goat-path like, little road within the town limits.  Where is it located?  The one
     in Dresden, NY is actually in a guy's backyard and he does not have a cliff dwelling.





     If you don't know the exact bore size, don't worry about it.  General descriptions of gun type and model are ACCEPTABLE.

Good luck.  Have fun!

Mike and Tracy


Smokin' my pipe on the mountings, sniffin' the mornin'-cool,
I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

From the poem  Screw-Guns  by Rudyard Kipling

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Re: "What is it? Where is it?"
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2008, 05:25:12 PM »
 I still feel the stress,caused by trying to find answers for the last game. maybe Double D will have pity on me and e-mail the answers to me for this one.
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Re: "What is it? Where is it?"
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2008, 02:33:27 AM »
 
well I know it not this one which is somewhere in NYC does Mike or Tracy  know where this one is?  ;D   

I have seen the one in you photo I'll place it soon!  ::)

and the one in Vermont is a  looks to be a 3.2 Inch Rifle, Model 1890 or there abouts...... still working on location...........


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Re: "What is it? Where is it?"
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2008, 03:58:43 AM »
     Lance,   quit blubbering and give me an answer to no. 7!  It is so close, that you could almost include it in your farm chore list.  In the west, when we say close, we mean within 200 miles on the shortest surface route.  No more negativity, or I will move your absolutely fantastic little bronze mortar with the green bed out of the number one slot to be re-created when I retire!!  So there.

     Kabar2,   Yes we do.  It is approximately 70 yards north of the Fort Hamilton main gate in Brooklyn, NY.  We studied that big one in 2004.  You are 50% correct on that 1890, 3.2" rifle.  Good going!!  You're getting the hang of it.  I actually had forgotten which state we took the picture in; I waited too long before reviewing the 1,046 photos we took, so I had to prove out a method to find the location, myself!  All I can say is, Double D has a good friend in Google. Important clues are contained in that photo caption.  Great start; keep it up!

Tracy and Mike
Smokin' my pipe on the mountings, sniffin' the mornin'-cool,
I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

From the poem  Screw-Guns  by Rudyard Kipling

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Re: "What is it? Where is it?"
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2008, 06:47:43 AM »
Alright it appears that this is in Rumford Main along Route 2 since the Naples packing company is also in Main........and I believe its the one in mexico Me 

  http://ylwbook.findlinks.addresses.com/yellowbook.php?ReportType=44&sid=97&refer=2184&adword=&qbn=Route+2+Diner&qbc=&qz=&qc=Rumford&qs=ME&tncpy=&fsa=1


 A.Naples Packing Co Inc
207-364-3725
654 River Rd
Mexico ME 04257-1837
More InfoDirections
B.Naples Packing Co Inc Meats
800-427-3725
Bridgton ME 04009
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Route 2 Diner
1369 Route 2
Rumford ME 04276-4044
Phone: 207-364-7777
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Re: "What is it? Where is it?"
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2008, 07:03:06 AM »
     Right On!!   KABAR2   Photo No. 1 is successfully  solved!!  Which one will you work on next?  No, don't tell us, just surprise us with your answer.

Keep going; you are inspiring others to try this out as you go forward.

Regards,

Mike and Tracy
Smokin' my pipe on the mountings, sniffin' the mornin'-cool,
I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

From the poem  Screw-Guns  by Rudyard Kipling

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Re: "What is it? Where is it?"
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2008, 09:11:36 AM »
     Lance,   quit blubbering and give me an answer to no. 7!  It is so close, that you could almost include it in your farm chore list.  In the west, when we say close, we mean within 200 miles on the shortest surface route.  No more negativity, or I will move your absolutely fantastic little bronze mortar with the green bed out of the number one slot to be re-created when I retire!!  So there.

     

Tracy and Mike
Well, i don't feel so stressed out, knowing i only have to answer one of them. let's try this: no.7, Fort Darling at Drewrys Bluff on the James River in Va., during the May 1862 brawl, John F. Mackie corporal on the U.S.S. Galena, recieved the First Marine Medal of Honor............... darn, i forgot to mention that it's a COLUMBIAD, also the Union soldiers called it Ft. Darling, the Confederates Drewry's Bluff.
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Re: "What is it? Where is it?"
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2008, 09:32:20 AM »
Lance,   We knew you knew that one.  This battery, also called Fort Darling by some, was a case history of how devastating, accurate plunging fire could be against thinly armored vessels like the USS Galena which actually predated the USS Monitor as the first ironclad afloat in this country.  Curiously, the original Monitor was also there, but could not elevate her 11" Dahlgren shell guns high enough to hit the battery.  By the way, what would you call that large, rough-surfaced gun in the photo?  The exact bore size is NOT necessary.   No. 7  is 2/3 solved with Lance's answer.

Thanks Lance!

Mike and Tracy
Smokin' my pipe on the mountings, sniffin' the mornin'-cool,
I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

From the poem  Screw-Guns  by Rudyard Kipling

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Re: "What is it? Where is it?"
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2008, 09:39:50 AM »
 did you miss the "COLUMBIAD" in my first answer?, see all the stress these fun little games cause!
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Re: "What is it? Where is it?"
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2008, 09:52:24 AM »
Bingo!  Thanks Lance.  No. 7 is now successfully answered.  The next time we see you, hopefully this summer, we will bring some sugar cubes for your coffee or your horses, whichever you prefer.

You did well,

Tracy and Mike
Smokin' my pipe on the mountings, sniffin' the mornin'-cool,
I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

From the poem  Screw-Guns  by Rudyard Kipling

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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2008, 01:18:23 PM »
Alright # 6 I believe is an 8" Columbiad  by the looks of it a model 1857,
its too far off to get good detail. now as to where it is I'm working on that  ;D

Lance good call on # 7 I thought it was along the James river just hadn't placed it yet.


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Re: "What is it? Where is it?" Clues added Sun. eve.
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2008, 01:39:47 PM »
Allen,   So far, so good, actually Model 1844, but model year is NOT necessary.  Now you are confronted with that old real-estate saying, "Location, location, location".  See new clues just posted.   

Tracy and Mike
Smokin' my pipe on the mountings, sniffin' the mornin'-cool,
I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

From the poem  Screw-Guns  by Rudyard Kipling

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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2008, 01:48:18 PM »
O.K. i've been fed and the horses have been fed, so more fun time! no.5, Brooke and Washington D.C............................folks ya better jump in and play,or me and Kabar2 will get them all!!!
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Re: "What is it? Where is it?" Clues added Sun. eve.
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2008, 02:05:45 PM »
Lance,   you better go and ride the horse that didn't eat too much around the pasture and give someone else a chance; you guys are becoming unstoppable.  Would it be too persnickety of
            us to ask, where in DC are these Brooke naval guns, U.S. Navy 14" RR Gun and the large slab of Japanese Battleship Yamato armor with the 16" hole through it, located??

Most grateful, 

Tracy and Mike
Smokin' my pipe on the mountings, sniffin' the mornin'-cool,
I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

From the poem  Screw-Guns  by Rudyard Kipling

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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2008, 02:07:57 PM »
Washington Navy Yard.
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Re: "What is it? Where is it?" Clues added Sun. eve.
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2008, 02:14:00 PM »
Right on!!  Excellent!

M & T
Smokin' my pipe on the mountings, sniffin' the mornin'-cool,
I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

From the poem  Screw-Guns  by Rudyard Kipling

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Re: "What is it? Where is it?"
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2008, 02:59:40 PM »
...
 Well, i don't feel so stressed out, knowing i only have to answer one of them. let's try this: no.7, Fort Darling at Drewrys Bluff on the James River in Va., during the May 1862 brawl, John F. Mackie corporal on the U.S.S. Galena, recieved the First Marine Medal of Honor............... darn, i forgot to mention that it's a COLUMBIAD, also the Union soldiers called it Ft. Darling, the Confederates Drewry's Bluff.

Bummer!  I've been there 3 or 4 times, but it was a few years ago BEFORE they put the cannons back from restoration!

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Re: "What is it? Where is it?"
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2008, 03:03:58 PM »
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 Well, i don't feel so stressed out, knowing i only have to answer one of them. let's try this: no.7, Fort Darling at Drewrys Bluff on the James River in Va., during the May 1862 brawl, John F. Mackie corporal on the U.S.S. Galena, recieved the First Marine Medal of Honor............... darn, i forgot to mention that it's a COLUMBIAD, also the Union soldiers called it Ft. Darling, the Confederates Drewry's Bluff.

Bummer!  I've been there 3 or 4 times, but it was a few years ago BEFORE they put the cannons back from restoration!


Tim, no whining, just jump in and play!
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2008, 03:09:18 PM »
Since, everyone else has given it a shot and got one I'll toss in my guess....

Answer for # 3- Cold Springs, NY. The Dock & Bandstand area. With a replica Parrot Rifle.

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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2008, 03:14:06 PM »
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 Tim, no whining, just jump in and play!

You're right!  I was winging.  That should also be a rule of the board - NO WINGING!

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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2008, 03:17:25 PM »
Since, everyone else has given it a shot and got one


intoodeep, i got two, #5 and #7, better hurry ;D
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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2008, 03:26:07 PM »
And I have the location of #6!  ;D  Fort Delaware Pea Patch Island

Here's another photo of the same gun......



And a link to Fort Delaware.....

http://www.destateparks.com/fdsp/index.asp

That's two for me  :D


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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2008, 03:33:21 PM »
intoodeep,  Thank you for an excellent answer; after your time looking them over yesterday, we were pretty sure we could count on you for at least one  solid answer.  No. 3 is put to bed.

Regards,

Tracy and Mike
Smokin' my pipe on the mountings, sniffin' the mornin'-cool,
I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

From the poem  Screw-Guns  by Rudyard Kipling

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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2008, 03:39:07 PM »
Thank you, KABAR2, you are correct!  An excellent fort with a fantastic staff and an Original 1844, 8" Columbiad cast in 1855, noted on a trunnion end.  Visit this place if you get a chance.  It's a nice ferryboat ride over there from Delaware City too.

Tracy and Mike
Smokin' my pipe on the mountings, sniffin' the mornin'-cool,
I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

From the poem  Screw-Guns  by Rudyard Kipling

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« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2008, 03:51:31 PM »
#5. Single band Brooke Rifle. USNY in Washington.

Edit, Oops... I didn't read all of Lance's replies....
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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2008, 04:19:49 PM »
 i don't know about you guys, but i'd like to be able to read those papers in front of gun # 2
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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2008, 04:34:02 PM »
Ok  Tracy and Mike and Lance I will take a stab at # 2 I may be wrong ........ is this the Erie Maritime Museum?  home of the US Brig Niagara.

and I would say that is a 24 pounder, although it's hard to gage with out seeing the bore.

 




And Lance I tried to enlarge the discription on the H.M.S. Detroit but could not enhance it enough with my limited software.

Oh did you know there is a recreation of the H.M.S. Detroit also.....

http://www.hmsdetroit.org/index.html

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Sed tamen sal petrae LURO VOPO CAN UTRIET sulphuris; et sic facies tonituum et coruscationem si scias artficium

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Re: "What is it? Where is it?" Clues added Sun. eve.
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2008, 04:41:20 PM »
Lance,  What is says, beyond what I already mentioned is this:  "Since it lacks British markings, the gun was likely U.S. made and captured by the British at Fort Detroit and then taken to Fort Malden, Ontario.  The guns were then removed from Fort Malden and taken to arm Barclay's Squadron.  O.K., it's a British pattern long gun.  What pattern is it?


KABAR2, that's it!  Do you know the pattern by any chance?  DD has one in South Africa of this same pattern and also there is one at Old Fort Niagara of this same common naval pattern.
That museum name is not an easy one; good work.

Tracy and Mike
Smokin' my pipe on the mountings, sniffin' the mornin'-cool,
I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

From the poem  Screw-Guns  by Rudyard Kipling

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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2008, 04:51:38 PM »
 Allen, i was visiting the same web sites, but i think the stress is getting to me, this is WAR!!! ;D ;D ;D  Mike and Tracy, i don't know, ya picked some good ones!!!
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Re: "What is it? Where is it?" Clues added Sun. eve.
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2008, 05:03:59 PM »
Lance, yes we did.  You are proving to be a tough competitor against the new guy though.  WE pretty much knew that the last one would be a......Beeaaach!!  Use your geography tools in one of the mapping engines.  Both of the really big ones were cast in Pittsburg, PA.  Does that help?

T&M
Smokin' my pipe on the mountings, sniffin' the mornin'-cool,
I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

From the poem  Screw-Guns  by Rudyard Kipling