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Encore Pistol Scope Maxed Out - How To Fix?
« on: January 29, 2008, 04:30:37 AM »
I've been working on an Encore 308 pistol with a Nikon 2.5-8x32 scope for deer hunting.  Just got it back from T/C, who put on a muzzle brake and tapped an extra hole for a rifle forend (which better allows use of a bipod for hunting).

Anyhow, the weather cleared here some and I got to sight it in, and I encountered a new (for me) problem.  The scope is maxed out in the 'up' direction.  It's 1 inch high at 100 yards, and I wanted about 3 inches high at 100 yards.

It's on a medium height Talley base. 

Is there any good way to fix this problem?



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Re: Encore Pistol Scope Maxed Out - How To Fix?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 05:16:42 AM »
Shim the rear base or ring up a few thousandths?
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Re: Encore Pistol Scope Maxed Out - How To Fix?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2008, 08:34:32 AM »
Would a small piece of sheet aluminum with thickness of .010 be good to go under the rear of the base?

Or is it better to buy plastic shims from Brownell's or somewhere?


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Re: Encore Pistol Scope Maxed Out - How To Fix?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2008, 08:49:01 AM »
I wouldn't shim with metal unless you are shimming the base and not the ring.   Either way I'd start off by re-zeroing the scopes horizontal reticule back to mid range before you shim (IOW, with the elevation turret back in the middle of its adjustment range).   The clicks are more accurate there than at the extremes.   For your situation, I'd shim the ring and leave shimming the base to if/when you start shooting that Encore at 1000 yards.    ;)  There is both tape and paper/card stock in several thicknesses with tacky surfaces available for shimming scopes, but many other things found in the average home can be used too.   Any cloth tape will work, like that white cloth medical tape, and the cloth electrical black tape (not the vinyl).   Even an appropriate thickness of paper will work, and can be held in place by a ultra thin coat of rubber glue (that can easily be removed from all surfaces later).    Some folks even use Loctite type products on the shims, but I never found them to be necessary even on my long range handcannons.   Shim(s) can be cut a bit smaller than the ring so as not to show when the scope is mounted.   If you have lapped the top and bottom rings to have as near 100% contact with the scopes tube without a shim as possible, adding a shim should not cause the scope to move.    I don't have it handy (out in storage someplace), but there is a formula to figure out how thick your shim needs to be.   But simple trial and error will also get you there.   Good luck.


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Re: Encore Pistol Scope Maxed Out - How To Fix?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2008, 08:59:05 AM »
Sounds good, Thanks.

I had to order some other stuff from Midsouth Shooters Supply, so I got a package of plastic base shims.  It sounds like .010 is a good starting point.  I can try shimming the ring with cloth tape in the meantime, if the weather gets better here.

I SUPPOSE I can keep my shooting under about 900 yards, for now!   ;D

Thanks for the help.
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Re: Encore Pistol Scope Maxed Out - How To Fix?
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2008, 04:32:25 PM »
Fang....

You can make you own Base Shims from Plastic Milk Jugs!!!   Been doing it for years!

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Re: Encore Pistol Scope Maxed Out - How To Fix?
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2008, 06:12:40 AM »
Taping the rear ring worked out fine.  It's sighted in now, with adjustment left over.

Thanks for the tip about making your own shims. 

But, hopefully I'll never have this problem again! ;D



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Re: Encore Pistol Scope Maxed Out - How To Fix?
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2008, 11:32:23 AM »
Glad to here it....

Another good option is to use the Burris Signature Z rings with a set of the off set inserts.  They can fix a ton of these kind of problems, and they don't mark the scopes...

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Re: Encore Pistol Scope Maxed Out - How To Fix?
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2008, 02:26:38 PM »
Burris Signature rings are, in my opinion, the finest rings on the market.  They are adjustable, rock solid, and as previously stated, dont mar your scope.
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