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Offline bufflobob

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Anyone try using Redding ultramag for swage press??
« on: January 30, 2008, 04:57:05 AM »
Hello everyone --- Couple of questions.  Has anyone tried using an Redding ultramag for entry into the world of swaging?
Would of course use pure lead. Have toyed with idea of getting a swage die for paper patch for 45-70 and 458 mag.
A Walnut Hill press by Corbin should eventually be in the cards, but already have the Untramag. With the Walnut hill I
assume you can have some tin in the alloy mix, also for 50 Sharps the Walnut Hill should work nicely.
Thanks for replies in advance --- Bob.

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Re: Anyone try using Redding ultramag for swage press??
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2008, 07:11:29 AM »
BuffloBob,
   While I've never used a Redding press, I do know that the larger the caliber you swage, the more stronger your press need be. I believe the presses made by the Corbin brothers are at a minimum twice as strong as any reloading press. That is for a good reason. Even with pure lead those .400+ calibers require lots of force.
For the calibers you mentioned, you will need to have your dies made to order. Other than .224, .308, .357, and .429 caliber, others are hard to find "off the shelf", especially with the nose forms you prefer. While it is true, you can get 'reloading press configured' dies from some die makers, why pay about the same for them as you would for Walnut Hill dies, with the base and point forms you want?  About "some" tin in your core mix: You are flirting with broken dies putting anything other than lead in your core material. True, it depends upon the caliber you are swaggiing, and the type of die used, but you run the same sort of risk a reloader does keeping his powder in an unmarked can... As the months go by, and you acquire different dies, you forget about the tin percentage is. While it worked great in your .257 bullets using Walnut Hill dies, it breaks your $200 die for your .44 Magnum.  If you  want to get into bullet swagging, I recommend you get your Walnut Hill press now. Even if you deside swagging isn't for you, you can sell your outfit for very close to what you pay for it. When you make your order for the dies, ask Mr Corbin what percentage of tin/antimony is allowable, and them make very sure it's well marked and doesn't get confused with your other supplies. In that regard I strongly recommend you keep a log book concerning your swagging efforts/decisions. You'll find it will save you a lot of time.

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Re: Anyone try using Redding ultramag for swage press??
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2008, 04:51:08 AM »
I have been using the Redding Big Boss to swage .45  LSWC bullets from lead wire using the C-H  #105 die set with no problems what so ever. An excellent combination.

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Re: Anyone try using Redding ultramag for swage press??
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2008, 12:12:49 PM »
It's not only the strength of a press but also the stroke of the press.
If you cant shorten the stroke of the ram throw you will be putting a cheater bar on the press handle to get the full throw for a rifle bullet swaged with pure lead, not alone an alloy.
I have some M type dies that I used for swaging pistol bullets using the RCBS A-4 Big Max press. This press is a very heavy O frame press tougher then any loading press on market now and you will be screwing the die up and down to keep the ram on the top of the stroke to get enough pressure forming a bullet.
Just get a press from Richard and be done with it. It also makes a very good loading press.

Kurt
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