The Hasty Sling Position and Handis !

[just bill]

Wow.......

Want to see how fast you can reload a Handi rifle with ejectors or even a Pardner shotgun?

Try the Hasty sling position with a butt stock shell holder.  Your trigger hand will be completely free as the stock is held into the shoulder from the Hast sling position.  Try practicing it.   With sling in Hasty, aim,dry fire, rotate gun receiver to 1 or 2 O'clock (right handers), hit the "handi" located break lever, eject over shoulder............your trigger hand is completely free to take cartrige from shell holder and load.............lock up........done.

I compared this to some of my bolt action repeaters and was amazed...........it's nearly as fast!  The key is in Hasty or 3 point if you want ........the stock does not drop slightly from the shoulder......it sticks......droping can cause fumbling........this does not.  Droping causes re-mounting.....this does not.  Last,  I was shocked in testing my re-target acquisition   .  Your elbow is locked, the gun locked into the shoulder and when you rotate the rifle back to 12:00 o'clock the target is right there!  The break lever NEF uses that some complain about and wish it was more like a double barrel shotgun lever...........is perfect for this with the Hasty.......much better.

On top of this,  studying the mechanics of twisting stocks spoke of with the Hasty on some rifle stocks the Handi may be ideal at least with laminate and maybe even wood if it's free floated from the stud forward and the sling studs are used.  Sorry, got to believe the plastic stock will flex .

Here is why this stock appears to not flex from pressure in Hasty.  The forearm stud may actually help as compared to a bolt action wood stock.  It won't allow it to flex past that.  If its floated in front of it........"well'a".  No stress movement from Hasty.  The other complaint that can happen from Hasty on one piece wood stock bolt actions is "bow" from forearm to but which the 3 point / 1907 sling removes but takes time to engage into.  The two pc Handi stock  actually seems to my eye to prevent this..........it can't bow!

Last with its meaty profile, weight yet,short length.........it really balances well between the hands for position shooting.

Personally, except when shooting from sticks.  I will now quickly wrap into the Hasty for all position shooting/hunting for now on.  40% accuracy gain from Hasty (military quote), ultra fast reload & target reacquisition....none of the common "cons" this position can bring on 1 pc. wood stocks if set up right as described above......wow!  May have to do some pics or a video of this to show.

BTW- While I own 1907 slings "The Best" sling for the Hasty I jave found to date is "The Claw" sling preferably the "contour claw"......but either work fine.

just bill

[MSP Ret]

Bill, please do the pictures and a video if you can, very interesting, and thanks....<><....

[just bill]

Bill, please do the pictures and a video if you can, very interesting, and thanks....<><....

Of all the people here I suspected that you would be interested and "get" what I am speaking of. (grin) "We think a lot a like"

Try it will a butt stock shell holder and compare.

Un-loaded from what ever shooting position you want but with the sling in Hasty position aim at a light socket switch in your home.  You will note after you rotate for ejections (even extraction by hand for some although slower).  The rifle or shotgun butt (either one, my Turkey Pardner has a sling) does not drop, re-loading is VERY smooth as the hand is completely free.  Rotate back to 12 o'clock and there will be the light socket switch.

Now try it with out Hasty sling position.  You will note the rifle butt drops twice from the shoulder a couple inches. First when you reach for the ammo, second when you attmpt to insert ammo........a little each time.  This causes the loss of the target completely as the butt has to be totally remounted.  In your calm house you will note more bumbleing for the cartige.........imagine in the field with the excitement of hunting.........last it adds in more time.

The try the extra cartridges between little and ring fingers.  1) this works and keeps the butt to should but, it's completely in practical for hunting unless your sure the shot is comming.  2) In that position the cartriges (two at most to still work trigger accurately) will be awkward and slow to insert. 3) Last,  the only way to do it as fast is with just one shell in the palm........and you have to walk,stalk around with it hunting.  Even calling Fox from a set,  I would have to keep it in hand all the time while trying to call.  Things happen to fast for me to first place an extra cartridge in my hand after a fox shows up.  With the Hasty and butt cartridge saddle I can fire off 9 shots (mine holds 9 rifle) nearly as fast as my bolt action repeater and as accurate.

We will see about the video .  I should not have wrote that because I am not good with that stuff.........just thought it would show it ideally.  We will see, maybe my son will help me when I get time.  Maybe I can do some pics linked together.

If you try it (first adjust for proper Hasty tightness,  should be able to open your left hand under the forearm and remove your right trigger hand from the gun, while the gun does not move and sticks to your shoulder......."standard" Hasty tightness regardless of gun, for standing likely just a little tigher than where you set to carry with summer clothes)........."If you try it"......in your home...........you will see what I mean

To others BTW-  Your butt stock shell holder should always have a home made small hole in it that fits tightly over the rear sling stud and holds it firmly in place from slideing
  

[rex6666]

I would also like to see pic. my thinker gets stuck sometimes.