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How do you feel about American Muslims?

I feel fine with American Muslims.
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #60 on: March 01, 2008, 04:50:50 PM »
The choices given me in the poll do not allow me to decide what selection to make.

The basic tenants of the Muslim faith and the definition of a good American are incompatible.  It is impossible to be a "good" Muslim by their definition and be a "good" American by our definition, at the same time.  I do not think that all Muslims are terrorists but I shudder think what the outcome would be if they are forced to choose one over the other.

Jewish/christian people are taught to turn the other cheek, forgive, etc.  Muslims are taught to convert or kill.  To me, it is disturbing to say the least and is downright dangerous in the extreme.

The difference in Allah and God is:   Allah commands his followers to sacrifice their sons for him and God sent his son to be sacrificed for us.
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #61 on: March 02, 2008, 03:25:31 AM »
Godless, subhuman scum  >:(  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #62 on: March 02, 2008, 04:25:51 AM »
I work with a Sudanese Canadian muslim. He is a fine fellow and has the same values as Christians and Jews. He is a Canadian patriot and we are lucky to have him now as Canadian citizen. It's like anything else, it only takes a few to spoil it for the rest.

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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #63 on: March 01, 2008, 03:04:43 PM »
  As the incomparable Ronald Reagan said...Trust (if you like), but verify !

   ..Words in parenthesis, mine..
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #64 on: March 03, 2008, 01:51:20 AM »
Is it time to add a But to the Constitution ?
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #65 on: March 03, 2008, 09:36:03 AM »
I  have a hard time respecting Muslims who do not have the guts to denounce radical Islam. I have to wonder if they agree with Bin Laden and the rest or if they are scared of payback from the radicals if they dare speak. either way, I believe they are a threat to the United States.

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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #66 on: March 03, 2008, 10:14:27 AM »
I  have a hard time respecting Muslims who do not have the guts to denounce radical Islam. I have to wonder if they agree with Bin Laden and the rest or if they are scared of payback from the radicals if they dare speak. either way, I believe they are a threat to the United States.

Leon

I believe that they are afraid of payback if they speak out against the radicals.  The radicals are a minority, but have the clout and the reach to payback those who they see as being against their version of Islam.  The venom that they spew is cooked up in their pulpits, or whatever they call them.  I agree with your assessment, but fear that our government and our people are so afraid of being intolerant toward Islam that they will not see the threat until it is too late!  Isn't it ironic?  We are afraid of being seen as intolerant of the most intolerant religion!

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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #67 on: March 03, 2008, 10:24:12 AM »
woodchukhntr;
      It would seem if that were true, and if there were a great number of "peace-loving" Muslims, they would start holding clandestine meetings to organize, and
   then come out en-mass, refuting the terror merchants ! Perhaps exposing "sleeper" terror cells just to show their good will and proving themselves as real Americans.
   
   Don't see this happening...
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #68 on: March 03, 2008, 02:39:51 PM »
IRONGLOW. You never will see it happen, even the so called GOOD ones condone the murderous acts of their Godless friends. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #69 on: March 03, 2008, 03:18:29 PM »
Musta been some of the "good" ones who where celebrating at some of the businesses on 9/11. As far as I'm concerned the only good Muslims are dead ones.
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #70 on: March 04, 2008, 01:42:14 AM »
Ironglow and Powderman,

Unfortunately, it seems that you are right!  The demonic "pull" of their religion overcomes any sense of righteousness that they might have.

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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #71 on: March 04, 2008, 05:27:51 AM »
I don't trust any of them, plain and simple. The very basis of their religion says they are to kill me and mine. If they believe in their own religion  at all, they are fully prepared to kill us. Someone want to tell me how I am supposed to accept and get along with my murderer? Sorry, but if you trust them enough to turn your back on them you're goin to get bit in the a$$. Any of you guys want to give peace and blind acceptence a chance, go ahead. I'll cover you in case it doesn't work out.
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #72 on: March 04, 2008, 08:53:14 AM »
I have read more hate messages on this thread than I have ever heard from any muslim I have ever met. 

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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #73 on: March 04, 2008, 09:44:20 AM »
since you haven't met most of us ! check out the reports on the computer news files and Muslim chat rooms ( hope you speak their language as they won't speak english for you ) so you get an apples to apples compare !
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #74 on: March 04, 2008, 03:28:48 PM »
I have read more hate messages on this thread than I have ever heard from any muslim I have ever met. 

I assume you don't watch the news or read the paper??? Name a country that the Godless ones are not murdering innocent people. POWDERMAN.  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #75 on: March 04, 2008, 03:41:28 PM »
Never said I hated them... just said I don't trust them.  ;D
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #76 on: March 04, 2008, 03:57:16 PM »
Youthpastor;

   Where did you meet these Muslims you are referring to ? Was it connected with your Christian service ?  Perhaps you only met with a select group that are
  faking friendship ...or some small group that are truly trying to be friendly .
   You will note that I didn't spew any hate..I just advised caution !...But let's look at the facts :
  
   We know that the group that flew planes into the World Trade center were 100% Muslim..
      
    ..But what were the ones that :
  
  A) Blew up the Khobar towers
  
  B) Tried to blow up the World Trade center in 1992 .

  C) Blew up the nightclub in Bali.

  D) Blew up the Marine barracks in Lebanon in 1983 .

  E)  Blew up Day care centers in Israel .

  F)  Blew up a huge jetliner over Lockerbie Scotland .

  G) Took over a cruise ship called Achile Lauro, and murdered an old man in a wheel chair .

  H) Took an athletic team hostage from thw 1972 Munich Olympics..and murdered the whole team.

  I)  Crashed a Jetliner into the Pentagon, murdering many .

  J)  Killed dozens of Americans by crashing an airliner into a farm field in Pennsylvania .

  K) Blew up pizza parlors in Tel Aviv.

  L) Beheaded journalist, Danny Perl .

  M) Beheaded another non-combatant named Berg .

  N) Tried to destroy an American ship, the USS Cole, killing I believe, seventeen.

  O) Strangled their own daughters for dating a non-Muslims .

  P) Blew up buses in central London, killing many men, women & children.

  Q) Put out a death contract on an author they didn't like .

  R) Send people through brush grinders,....feet first .

  S) Stone women to death..for being raped .

  T) Kidnapped a missionary couple in the Philippines, murdering the husband before releasing the woman (when they got shot by Filipino soldiers).

  U) Often car bomb a public place, then Bombed the rescue workers when they arrive and are trying to assist the victims of the first bombing .

  V) Took women to the public sports arena, had them kneel..to take a bullet in the brain.

  W) Danced in the streets of Palestine as thousands were incinerated in the World Trade center .

  X) Left "torture houses" in Iraq, when the American forces advanced to fast for them to cover their crimes.

  Y) Are today, running amok..murdering and taking slaves in the Sudan .

  Z)Murdered construction workers, burned their bodies to a crisp and hung them on a bridge .

  AA) Blew up trains in Spain , killing between 1&2 hundred.

  BB) Blew up a club in Australia .

  CC) Put a 'death price" on a cartoonist's head .

  DD) Used mentally handicapped women and children a human bomb carriers .

          Now, youthpastor, this is just a PARTIAL list, showing just a few of the many diabolical crimes committed by......WHO ? I could continue..but I think you must be getting it !

   Think; Almost all of these evil crimes were perpetrated in the name of their god...
   We Christians know of ONE God...and one who pretends to be a god...which one would inspire this kind of evil brutality ?    ....A single word answer will suffice !

  
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #77 on: March 04, 2008, 04:17:24 PM »
  Note; in the foregoing list ..I didn't mention anything about hate..I just listed facts that are available to everyone.

   I said, as R Reagan did.." trust (if you wish)..but verify !
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #78 on: March 04, 2008, 04:42:57 PM »
Every American should watch this once. If you are under 18 years old I strongly insist that you go to another page now!!!!!!!!!! This is the kind of things this scum is doing to people. Dale http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1378c00ef5
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« Reply #79 on: March 04, 2008, 04:54:28 PM »
Also if you have a problem seeing the video just sign up. You will not receive any spam from it. Dale
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #80 on: March 05, 2008, 03:30:26 AM »
IRONGLOW. Well said Sir, and true. I reckon pastorjon isn't the only one that ignores the facts like tm7 does. Nothing wrong with seeing the world as it really is. Islam is a cancer, a boil on the butt of the entire world. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #81 on: March 05, 2008, 04:15:32 AM »
TTM;

   I don't think you're going to "snow" many of the folks here into believing that all the hundreds of Muslim murder attacks are simply the result of some world-wide conspiracy or "false flag" operations ! In fact I don't think you will convince many here that even 1/10th of the murder/bombings are sponsored by anyone else other than
    the Islamofascists.
  I have provided a list of murder incidents that are, as far as the world is concerned the full responsibility of the usual terrorists..in order to refute them..the burden is upon you to PROVE differently.

   Youthpastor..If your posting name is relative to your job...good; but one thing our youth need is honesty, candor and adult leaders that will help to educate the youngsters entrusted to them. If some group of crazies are running around killing people in the name of THEIR god, it behooves any Christian leader to point out the evil of those that would do such a thing, and how they are led by a non-god.
     A pastor, whether youth or senior..in fact, any Christian is reminded to;
   " preach the word; be instant in season, out of season, reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. (II Timothy 4:2)...
  It is your solemn duty to draw a distinction between the false gods out there that will lead a person to mass murder...and the REAL God, the God of Abraham and Isaac .
   There is no greater opportunity to teach the vast difference between the REAL God and the many counterfeits.  No place for PC in real Christian ministry.                                                                                                                                                                                        
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #82 on: March 05, 2008, 04:47:54 AM »
The sad thing is we are at war with these people and this conversation is taking place .
What has this nation become ?
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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #83 on: March 05, 2008, 04:57:35 AM »
"What has this nation become?"

I (as a Christian conservative) assure you that there are many things that I disagree with.

But one of them isn't the right to voice different opinions.  Even if they are goofy.
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« Reply #84 on: March 05, 2008, 06:11:52 AM »
cement man , thanks you make my case !
we sir are at war ! we hear so much about WW2 and the greatest generation , the difference in then and now is they became a team and all worked to win no pety BS like the voice your opinion statement . Of course the right exist and i would also defend it . But at war should we not hold our opinion and save our  nation and way of life or is it more important for someone to get their 2 cents worth in ?
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« Reply #85 on: March 05, 2008, 06:13:23 AM »
can you imagine what our enemy is thinking if they read this ,
they would assume half of us are on their side !
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« Reply #86 on: March 05, 2008, 06:36:43 AM »
Shootall, I don't think they would think half of us are on their side. 

"They" are the ones who want to eradicate people that have different opinions.  Not us.

I don't think we are giving away any tactical advantage by shooting the bull on GBO forums.
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« Reply #87 on: March 05, 2008, 07:01:36 AM »
one can learn alot from the bull shot !
but it is our news , talk shows etc.
we had it going after 9/11 but have gone back to the Me mind state !
this is reminding me of the soldiers in the Bible that were thirsty , arriving at water some stuck their heads down to the water and drank while others kept a watchful eye and dipped up water with their cupped hand . The ones not keeping a look out were sent away as they would be more problem than help !
Seems we have alot that don't keep a watch out in this country today !
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« Reply #88 on: March 05, 2008, 07:08:01 AM »
I was raised by an extremely prejudiced mother, she hates any thing that is not white, southern missionary baptist period.  She is also extremely brutal and abusive.  When I left home I said I would never hate people like she does.  Well I have made two exceptions, Wet Backs and Muslims.  In the course of my military service have dealt with both.  Have had both try and kill me.  These encounters took place in desserts half a world apart.  Today they each have become a serious problem for this country.  We will not ever counter this problem until we become a lot more like them.  They hate us, they want to kill us. 

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The only way to stop violence is with violence.  I feel one of our greatest presidents (TR) said it well, "Speak softly and carry a big stick".  Now since the softly spoken words are not working  time for the big stick.  Look at WW I and WW II.  Hatred both leads to war, and is a product of war.  To the victor go the spoils, the loser is vanquished.  War leads to peace.

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Re: How do you feel about American Muslims?
« Reply #89 on: March 05, 2008, 07:45:43 AM »
It appears I upset some folks.  The original question of this thread was nothing to do with Muslim extremist who want to kill Americans.  Clearly I have an issue with them.  However, do I believe it is ok to condemn all Muslims and call all of them murderous people who hate all things that are good and just? No. 

For the record, I disagree with the teachings of Islam.  I believe the extremists are evil people but I do not believe every muslim is out to get us and is evil.