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Offline philb1732

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Question about Tubb's Bore Conditioning System
« on: February 28, 2008, 09:54:14 AM »
I have a Remington 700 TWS in .308 that has had about 50 rounds through it, the original owner did not fire lap the bore...My question is if i give the bore a good cleaning then use the Tubbs system will this make a difference in a bore that has been "used"?  Any info on this would be helpfull...

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Re: Question about Tubb's Bore Conditioning System
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2008, 01:20:31 PM »
My experience:  Took a new M700 in 308 and another in .223 and administered the Tubb treatment......this has to improve the inexpensive factory barrel......it will not make a inexpensive factory barrel into a Kreiger or Lilja barrel,   Results are salient, maybe a bit easier to clean but at least you will have done everything you could to make that factory barrrel shoot as good as it's going to.  Tubb's advised not to firelap my 40 yr. old Anschutz M1413.  C-1

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Re: Question about Tubb's Bore Conditioning System
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2008, 02:39:28 AM »
philb:  after only 50 rounds your bore is not 'used'.  It isn't even broken in yet.  A Tubbs lapping process or a Veral Smith (one of our Moderators) or a Beartooth Bullets firelapping process can help attain better accuracy if there is any roughness in your bore (sharp land/groove edges) or any minute bore encroaching obstacles.  The firelapping process has worked for me on a number of applications and has resulted in noticeable accuracy improvements.  The firelapping process simply applies a 'controlled wear' process to your bore that smooths it out as would having fired a couple of thousand rounds through it.  That may well be why Condor was not advised to lap his bore - it may not have had any real affect. 

One thing you can do is to check your bore for copper fouling, residue or coloring either on the lands or in the grooves.  If, with a bore light, you can see copper coloring in your bore, it can benefit from a lapping.  If you don't see any copper fouling you may wish to shoot the rifle first to see how it looks later. 

The first step if you have coppr fouling is to get it out with a good cleaner, then lap that baby and it should improve the accuracy (if ya need to).  Mikey.

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Re: Question about Tubb's Bore Conditioning System
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2008, 08:54:35 AM »
Yeah its a touch green...so decopper it and lap it...sounds like a good project...any other advice...

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Re: Question about Tubb's Bore Conditioning System
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2008, 11:15:36 AM »
My thoughts are, IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT! In other words if it shoots good don't mess with it but if it doesn't shoot to your satisfaction then give it try. The new rifle I just bought will shoot 1/2" groups right out of the box so I ain't touching it. 1/2" is good enough for me. 
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