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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #120 on: March 05, 2008, 01:26:06 PM »
Heard an interesting fact on the news today. Everyone has said Obama is not Muslim, but when he signed into school at a Muslim school, he checked Muslim for his religion. His enrollment cards were the evidence. Hmmmmmmm
McCain however is as big a piece of crap as the rest of the candidates (Democrats), and no I won't vote for him either.
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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #121 on: March 05, 2008, 03:10:12 PM »
Well, I am going to give up on the "you are throwing your vote away if you vote third party". It is your vote and you are free to cast it any way you want or not cast it at all. That is one of the principles of democracy. And we all suffer the consequences of these actions. Enough said. Ain't goin there no more.

Here is something else to consider about electing a democrat for president. When congress and the presidency are controlled by one party, democrat or republican, the electorate get screwed worse than if the president is of the opposing party to congress.

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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #122 on: March 05, 2008, 04:23:49 PM »
 >:( i'm sick of having to try to pick the lessor of two evils, sadly disappointed that not enought  americans recognized that paul may have been the last chance to get this country back were it should be. Now we have two flaiming liberals and one closet liberal to pick from Voters trying to get something for nothing "he'll cut my taxes and tax big business"how stupid to think you can tax business, they just raise prices and you pay their taxes.The public cant wait to give to give away their freedom and privacy in exchange for promised safety that wont happen.if hillary should get in the only bright spot is that bill cost the dems years of power with the assualt weapon ban and maybe they learned something from that. I have a tought time realizing that americans will vote for a man who will not show respect for the flag and who will not swear allegiance to this country. This is a court martial offense in the military> Jefferson was right a revolution is good for a country ever now and then.
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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #123 on: March 06, 2008, 01:06:21 AM »
Jimster, torpedoman & others;
    Yes..I am very disappointed that we were not able top get someone like Duncan Hunter in the top spot..just as GWB was not my first pick in 2000.
  ...And just a couple weeks ago,when I was asked over the phone, to donate to the Rep re-election committee, the caller got a load of my opinion..and nothing more..
    The word gets back..that's for sure. If you are actually active at all in support of conservative candidates, the word gets back when you refuse and give reasons.
 
   ...But, imagine where we would be, if Gore would have been pres when the time to sign the "Kyoto "global warming" accord" came up for the president's
   signature !
  ..And in 2004,if Kerry had been made pres..how much damage would he and Pelosi have been able to do since 2006 ?

   Where would the oncoming Supreme Court decision on the 2nd amendment case be, had Kerry appointed his justices, rather than Supreme court judges Roberts and Alito
  that GWB appointed ?

    Something worth thinking about !
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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #124 on: March 06, 2008, 09:10:40 AM »
there seems to be some here that think they are upholding some kind of principle by not voting for McCain

There are no Conservative principals to be upheld by voting for McCain.

His candidacy, if successful, will signal the end of the  political party which represents conservatism..

I won't vote for the destruction of the only political venue which offers the possibility of conservatism in America.

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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #125 on: March 06, 2008, 09:39:46 AM »
Nixon's term then signaled the end of the honest republican party ?
JFK's the end to morality ?
Ya'll give these men way to much credit !
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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #126 on: March 06, 2008, 12:01:39 PM »
Nixon's term then signaled the end of the honest republican party ?
JFK's the end to morality ?
Ya'll give these men way to much credit !

Neither Nixon's nor JFK's presidencies directly contradicted the fundamental platform that their respective political parties were built on.

A McCain presidency would.

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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #127 on: March 06, 2008, 01:47:33 PM »
Nixon's term then signaled the end of the honest republican party ?
JFK's the end to morality ?
Ya'll give these men way to much credit !

Neither Nixon's nor JFK's presidencies directly contradicted the fundamental platform that their respective political parties were built on.

A McCain presidency would.

We can weather McCain as conservatives.  We may not be able to weather the effects, of either Obama or Clinton as President.  The Republican party can make changes and has.  IE the Contract with America was a base policy change back to fundamental principles of the Republican party.  The one thing I dislike is candidates running for office, not really of the party persuasion.  IE Paul, so called Independence, Liebermann, Independent, or other of Libertarian party members trying to get into office on the Republican Party.  The Republican party will weather the McCain storm and not voting for him, will defiinitely put either Obama or Clinton in the White House.  If you think it is your duty to correct the Republican party, by not voting for McCain so a Democrat can be President, you are sadly mistaken.  McCain has not contradicted the Republican party platform, but does not align himself well with more conservative parties or voters.  McCain has voted along Republican party line over 80% of the time.  Does that mean now he is not a Republican?  I think too many self centered egotists suggest not voting for McCain, due their radical attitudes against anything that differs from their far right wing convictions without regard to the consequences.  The Republican Party will get back to core values, as noticed by Republicans in Congress taking a much stronger stand against illegal immigration. This election has highlighted issues that the Republican party has not recognized as important to the core voter and as such is now reacting to them.  If a person does not agree with the Republican Party platform, become a member of one whose platform does and support that candidate.
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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #128 on: March 06, 2008, 02:58:20 PM »
Nixon's term then signaled the end of the honest republican party ?
JFK's the end to morality ?
Ya'll give these men way to much credit !

Neither Nixon's nor JFK's presidencies directly contradicted the fundamental platform that their respective political parties were built on.

A McCain presidency would.

We can weather McCain as conservatives.  We may not be able to weather the effects, of either Obama or Clinton as President.  The Republican party can make changes and has.  IE the Contract with America was a base policy change back to fundamental principles of the Republican party.  The one thing I dislike is candidates running for office, not really of the party persuasion.  IE Paul, so called Independence, Liebermann, Independent, or other of Libertarian party members trying to get into office on the Republican Party.  The Republican party will weather the McCain storm and not voting for him, will defiinitely put either Obama or Clinton in the White House.  If you think it is your duty to correct the Republican party, by not voting for McCain so a Democrat can be President, you are sadly mistaken.  McCain has not contradicted the Republican party platform, but does not align himself well with more conservative parties or voters.  McCain has voted along Republican party line over 80% of the time.  Does that mean now he is not a Republican?  I think too many self centered egotists suggest not voting for McCain, due their radical attitudes against anything that differs from their far right wing convictions without regard to the consequences.  The Republican Party will get back to core values, as noticed by Republicans in Congress taking a much stronger stand against illegal immigration. This election has highlighted issues that the Republican party has not recognized as important to the core voter and as such is now reacting to them.  If a person does not agree with the Republican Party platform, become a member of one whose platform does and support that candidate.
I get a queasy feeling in my gut when people start voting for a PARTY instead of the better person one who represents what they believe in and one who wants to do what they feel needs done. This is how we got in this mess that we are in, Vote the party line and take what and who the party gives you. in my opinion a vote cast for what you believe in is not wasted a vote cast otherwise is. I've had to wast my vote before and will probablly have to again this time but if paul was running as an independent i'd vote for him in a heartbeat.If more people didn't believe the press when they "reported" who can and cant win and voted their conscience for what is right this country might last another 100 years the what it is headed now i have my doubts.As it is now it's which gungrabbing liberal do you want to vote for, yes McCaine is way to close to the brady bunch, kennedy, and nancy.
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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #129 on: March 06, 2008, 03:08:34 PM »
I'd like to see Dr. Condoleezza Rice as John McCain's VP.
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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #130 on: March 06, 2008, 03:15:40 PM »
Swampman;

   Another good suggestion...
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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #131 on: March 06, 2008, 05:41:51 PM »
IG, my party affiliation is undeclared.  I'm very conservative in politics.  Since the Democratic party encompasses almost every other group that is not conservative, they typically vote along those party lines as evidenced by Bue and Red States.  I'm not one of them. So, to prevent either Obama or Clinton from winning the Presidency, I feel it necessary to put aside any differences in my personal belief, by supporting the best electable candidate more inline with them.  My point of previous posts was several have posted that they just absolutely will not violate their personal differences to vote for McCain, since he isn't quite the conservative they are.  Also, it seems to me to be underhanded that candidates run on a political party platform, which truly isn't their convictions, to either stay or get elected to office.  These people seem to me sneaky, unethical, and would do anything to grab power.  That bothers me more than party members voting along party lines that agree with their individual political convictions.  IE Hitlery moving to NY, just to get elected to the US Senate in preparation for a Presidential run.  She couldn't do it in her home State and if she had won there, would not have had enough politcal power to gain national notoriety.  She needed NY for the foothold and base to make the run.
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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #132 on: March 07, 2008, 12:45:33 AM »
 
     Right Deltecs ! I am neither Rep nor Dem..I register Conservative...and the most conservative one left standing..that stands ANY chance, will get my vote !
    Any third party candidates, such as Nader, Perot, etc. are simply spoilers and as I see it, are usually voted for by folks who like the role spoiler..since their vote
  actually counts for...ZIP...and no one later reflects upon "how could I have won their vote ?".
   Just think back; did anyone ask that question publicly..after Nader's last run? Nope..everyone just figured there is a small splinter group that "will never be content",
  and let it go at that .
  Yes; they CAN affect an election..Perot's folks put Clinton in the White House...perhaps another splinter group can put the Clintons in the White House..once more..
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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #134 on: March 07, 2008, 07:05:32 AM »
Quote from the Ron Paul crowd - via swampman's link

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"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts," Paul said. "Revolutions are long-term projects."

"But even with the past year's achievements, we're still the early stages of bringing about the changes that this revolution is all about."


Apparently the Ron Paul folks aren't nearly as pessimistic and discouraged about the future as some of their supporters.  Perhaps he still feels there will be a salvageable world even after the next presidency.

Wonder who Dr. Paul is going to vote for?

While I wouldn't belittle the quality of our candidates, I would encourage everyone, at the very least, to get involved, whether its the Paul revolution, or other third party, or revamping your republican party.

Unless of course you fit this description:

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..everyone just figured there is a small splinter group that "will never be content


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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #135 on: March 07, 2008, 12:30:53 PM »
Well guys, I'm a conservative but I'm also a realist. When I moved to New Mexico in the middle '50's the state was controlled by the democrats, from the local dog catcher to the governor. When I reached voting age I registered as a democrat because that was the only way I could vote in the primaries.There might be 14 democrats running for county commissioner and not a republican in sight. At least I could influence the run off election a little and maybe get who i wanted. I didn't want to be a democrat and really wasn't, just getting a little voice in the election process.

Well, the worm has turned somewhat. We manage to elect some republicans to state office now but in the local elections is where it has really turned around. It started in Chaves county years ago. LBJ shut down the SAC airbase in Roswell in retaliation. It has finally  took over the whole southeastern part of the state. Now we have several republicans running for local offices and an occasional democrat. So in the last presidential election after casting my vote against Kerry and Richardson I walked out and changed my registration to republican. I would prefer to register as independent but that gives me no say in the primaries. I prefer to try to use my vote to try to accomplish something.

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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #136 on: March 08, 2008, 04:05:30 PM »
  If Ron Paul truly wants to be a factor next time around. he should start now..aiming at 2012. No point in aggravating potential supporters by acting as a spoiler now.
  I do like Paul's domestic program and his strict, constitutional way of viewing things...but he will quite honestly, have to change his foreign policy ideas to get me to
  support him..and perhaps over the next 5 years he can do that !

    He should also start developing a more optimistic and sanguine personality by next go around. Like it or not, "personality" plays a big part in elections.
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« Reply #137 on: March 08, 2008, 06:06:56 PM »
 
  I do like Paul's domestic program and his strict, constitutional way of viewing things...but he will quite honestly, have to change his foreign policy

The warmongers of the GOP have destroyed the Republican party and the economy.

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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #138 on: March 08, 2008, 06:09:47 PM »
  You mean of course, those "war mongers" that decide to punish the enemy for thousands of our countrymen murdered !
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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #139 on: March 08, 2008, 06:33:28 PM »
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I'd like to see Dr. Condoleezza Rice as John McCain's VP.

Given that pairing I'd not be able to vote for McCain even if it meant the muzlim were elected. I really would as soon see him elected as her. Boy do these folks have you guys snowed. She's from B'ham, AL and has told nothing but lies about how things were when she grew up here. I'd not be surprised if she too is a closet muzlim but for sure she's a flat out liar and not fit to be dog catcher.


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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #140 on: March 09, 2008, 01:17:00 AM »
   ...Just shows how little you know about the "Hagee types", TM7...
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« Reply #141 on: March 09, 2008, 03:01:56 AM »
Honesty and integrity should be paramount in the candidate. Not eye appeal, compromise, and the lessor of two evils. I will stick with my signature at the bottom, and vote for honesty and integrity REGARDLESS of party affiliation, and chances of winning or losing. I am finished with settling for less. When doing so, each time one gets less and less. With the three candidates now available on the two main parties we actually have nothing.
Perhaps America as a whole is about to get some important lessons on voting the lessor of two evils. AND, perhaps it is needed. Either way it's about to happen.JMO
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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #142 on: March 09, 2008, 06:26:47 AM »
So your going to vote for a candidate that is honest about wanting to take away your 2nd amendment rights?Priceless.
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Re: Whaddya think guys? Time to rally 'round @#%# bag McCain?
« Reply #143 on: March 09, 2008, 07:15:36 AM »
HUH?  ???
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« Reply #144 on: March 09, 2008, 03:09:18 PM »
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Yeah we have issues with Mcain. I dont like the choice either. Hold your vote back and thats a vote for Hillary or Bamm Bamm whether you like it or not or I like it or not. Its whether the country can stand it
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« Reply #145 on: March 12, 2008, 02:55:42 AM »
For years so few voted that we ended up in the mess we have , now those that did vote in the past are going to not vote today .
I understand your conviction and its true we have little real choice , but a vote that is for the better canidate seems better than a wasted vote .
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« Reply #146 on: March 12, 2008, 07:21:03 AM »
Don't think it matters who anybody vote's for anymore. This would be like changing the captain of the Titanic after hitting the iceberg. I don't think it matters anymore. Sorry I have such a crappy outlook!!   gypsyman
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« Reply #147 on: March 12, 2008, 01:59:40 PM »
 
   Let's see who is chosen for VP...and consider whether there may be any influence coming from that direction...
  It coulod be one of the eight or ten other candidates that were also running this time..surely they weren't all bad !

   
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« Reply #148 on: March 13, 2008, 02:37:06 AM »
Titanic ?
iI hope we are more like the WW-2 ENTERPRISE at least it American !
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« Reply #149 on: March 13, 2008, 05:54:40 PM »
all three of these picks need to be jailed cause they are all thieves and crooks  along with everybody else in d.c. and we need to start over electing HONEST men, Where's Diogenes and that lamp when hes needed
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