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Offline Buckeye

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SP101 in 22 Mag.
« on: March 04, 2008, 02:01:47 PM »
I found one in local shop 4in. barrel SS looks new ..is it worth $350.00 ?


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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2008, 03:44:01 PM »
IMHO....yes.  That's not a terrible price and the SP101 in any caliber is a heck of a gun.
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2008, 05:49:22 PM »
Agree with Bigbuck - good price, good gun.
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2008, 04:54:16 AM »
Don't recall ever seeing one in .22mag-----sure its not a .22LR??
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2008, 05:19:18 AM »
...or maybe a .32 mag?  OBG got me thinkin' there, and looking in a few old Gun Digests, I didn't see any .22 mags in the issues I looked in.  Only .22LR and .32 mags.  Still, a nice gun at a good price.
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 01:03:20 AM »
Nope its a 22 Mag.,the salesman knows I like 22 Mag.s,and thats why pointed out to me ,he said few where made ...its the first I've seen.
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2008, 01:13:30 AM »
Actually, none were made in the 22 mag. See page 196 in "Ruger and his Guns". You'll be able to tell by the roll marking where it reads "Mag" because the lettering won't match. Yours/his is a rechambered gun and not worth $350.
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2008, 01:51:32 AM »
if it was re-chambered hope it was re-barreled or re-bored as 22LR and 22mag are different bores !
If you like it and it shoots good 350 ain't bad . used ones around here ( any cal. ) sell for that or more .
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2008, 09:05:19 AM »
The .22LR and .22Mag can live in the same bore---if you have any doubts---take a look at the Single Six.
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2008, 09:33:37 AM »
You know what omaha-beenglocking , you are correct but Ruger like Colt before them chose to size the bore to 22 MAG. spec. so there would be no conflict . Ruger also chose to market a 22 LR version sized to 22LR spec. with 22 LR cyl. only so some degree of accuracy could be obtained as with the convertible guns the 22LR  was lacking due to the loose fit . The same was true with the 38-357MAG/9mm bbls
Please don't take my word as the spec. are easy to check . but if you have a 22MAG. cart. and a 22LR cart. the difference is apparent .
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2008, 11:13:29 AM »
The convertibles shoot the long rifle (.221) fine but the mags (.223) shoot terrible due to the bullet being swaged down to the long rifle bore. The old three screws in 22 mag alone had a larger bore and shot the mags great.  The SP-101 in long rifle will shoot the mags after a re-chamber but the accuracy will suffer big time. Don't buy it!!!!!!
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2008, 12:08:26 PM »
If it wasn't chambered by Ruger----like a special run------I don't think I would touch it-----too many variables.
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2008, 12:58:19 PM »
I would agree with these guys to avoid if is a mismatch.  Could it have been a special run though?  Don't they make some runs like that for Lipsey's, or the like?  Just asking.  If it were a legitimate .22 mag with the proper bore, it would be a pretty neat gun.  Any way of back tracking to Ruger with the serial number?
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2008, 01:17:17 PM »
Special runs are only in the catalog calibers. The gun configuration changes like a stainless steel Bisley  convertible in 32 mag/32-20 with adjustable sights. This isn't a catalog gun but special runs of this configuration were made for distributors. Again, a 22 mag SP-101 would be as genuine as a 44 Special GP-100.
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2008, 10:06:11 AM »
SORRY FLASH !
Ya got it backwards .
Check the stock numbers ,
I can't imagine them advising shooting over sized bullets in any gun much less a jacketed bullet through an undersized barrel, they build all the other convertibles the other way and advise against using .310 bullets in the mini-30 with a .308 barrel .
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2008, 11:04:22 AM »
If you say so. ::)
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2008, 11:21:39 AM »
I shot IMHSA and there was only one that would shoot 22LR well enough to compete , it was the one with the LR cyl and bbl only as the convertible had the larger bore and was unsuitable for competition .
Not busting on ya just would hate to see someone get the wrong IMFO !
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2008, 10:54:27 AM »
Quote from: Flash on March 06, 2008, 11:13:29 AM
The convertibles shoot the long rifle (.221) fine but the mags (.223) shoot terrible due to the bullet being swaged down to the long rifle bore. The old three screws in 22 mag alone had a larger bore and shot the mags great.  The SP-101 in long rifle will shoot the mags after a re-chamber but the accuracy will suffer big time. Don't buy it!!!!!!

Actually, if you'll measure them, the 22 LR bullets from most manufactures usually average around .222" to .223". 22 Magnum bullets are the same as center fire bullets at .224".

As far as shooting slightly over sized bullets in a bore, .001" to .002" really doesn't cause that much of a difference with pistol calibers(short bullet styles), especially with slower powders like the ones loaded in 22 magnums. For instance, my 32 magnum (Clements conversion) has a Douglas barrel that slugs exactly .3101". Most jacketed bullets mic around .3115" to .3125". They shoot great, and pressures aren't affected enough to even notice. I've shot factory loads through it with the same results as my handloads, so it's not just due to custom building ammo that won't give problems.
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2008, 07:01:33 AM »
 I believe if you shoot both the mag & LR bullets you will see a difference as so many did shooting IMHSA did also a LR bullet and mag. bullet are of different construction .
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2008, 08:23:55 AM »
[the salesman knows I like 22 Mag.s,and thats why pointed out to me ,he said few where made]

He is trying to lead you down the garden path, to make a few bucks


[I found one in local shop 4in. barrel SS looks new ..is it worth $350.00 ?]

It would be worth well over $350, if it was in the original L.R. chambering - and not rechambered to .22 Mag.

Ruger only chambered the SP-101 .22's in L.R. - not Magnum.

It only has about a $250-300 "shooter" value, if you want to take a chance on the accuracy.

Also, the SP-101 has a windage-only adjustable rear sight, and most likely the mag rechamber & use on mag ammo will change the POI beyond the ability of the sights to compensate.
As you may already know, the mag chamber makes it dangerosly oversize for the firing of L.R. ammo - which could lead to burst and certainly blown out cases/spitters. 
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2008, 09:31:08 AM »
THE SP 101 has a replaceable front sight , should work ok .
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2008, 02:46:47 PM »
Quote from: Buckeye on March 04, 2008, 02:01:47 PM
I found one in local shop 4in. barrel SS looks new ..is it worth $350.00 ?




If you don't like it, just sell it to this guy. SHOOTALL
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2008, 05:21:43 PM »
The gun is in layaway at this time...by a another customer...I asked the Dealer to let me see it ..
He did. ITS A RUGER SP101 in 22MAG. Not Re-Chambered..I asked where the dealer orignally got the gun ..He said it was a Pawn...
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2008, 03:45:08 AM »
I am considering getting a 22LR and having the chambers re cut and the bbl lined with a mag liner . Maybe a project to consider .
anyone tried something like this ?
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2008, 04:12:41 AM »
Going by this chart---I'm wondering if its a well done remake.

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/PS-GaugeCaliberHistory-RE.html
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2008, 04:31:49 AM »
see your point but it does not list a 327 fed. mag.
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2008, 04:18:36 PM »
Looked at it again today in good light and it has been converted ...very professionally ,very convincingly stamped 22 Mag. ,fooled me and had already looked at it several times.Dealer said he will let the fellow know that has it in layaway.
Sorry bout the mess up...I was fooled ..
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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2008, 04:22:40 PM »
The important thing is that no one was suckered out of their money.  Once again GBO comes through, even if there was some disagreement displayed.   8)


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Re: SP101 in 22 Mag.
« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2008, 01:25:00 AM »
Just good debate !
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