Author Topic: Mueller Long Range Scope? (Read 6838 times)

jnclement · « **on:** March 06, 2008, 09:14:58 AM »

So when is Mueller going to come out with a Long Range target scope? Maybe with fine crosshairs, and a 1/8 MOA dot? Or fine mil-hash lines. Never?

Inrut24/7 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 06, 2008, 10:37:16 AM »

That is a question that i have been wondering myself, I have two of the 8.5x25x44 mill dots which are good scopes, they would be great scopes if they would make them with a target dot, I just cant see spending the extra money for the eraticator when i have no need for an illuminated dot on a long range scope.

jnclement · « **Reply #2 on:** March 06, 2008, 10:46:58 AM »

Non-illuminated would be good. Put the cost of illumination into the glass, or a zero stop.

Mueller Optics · « **Reply #3 on:** March 06, 2008, 11:28:37 AM »

Its something were working on right now but I cant give out many details at this time because some things may change based on the beta testing and design.. I can say it will be a 8-32, glass etched, non-illuminated, fine cross hair with target dot and if things go as planned it will have one very unique feature not found in many variable power target scopes. By the way, before you ask, we already have beta testers, lol .. Its still in the early stages so I wouldnt expect a release for at least 90-120 days and maybe longer.

MO

Inrut24/7 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 06, 2008, 11:49:12 AM »

thats great news, hopfully they will come out before the groundhogs do !!!!

quickdtoo · « **Reply #5 on:** March 06, 2008, 11:53:31 AM »

jnclement · « **Reply #6 on:** March 06, 2008, 06:03:34 PM »

Is it really 90-120 days? Seems like I heard that ........in November..........

Inrut24/7 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 08, 2008, 08:52:26 AM »

Is this scope being shown on some of the flash advertisements on other forums? I saw one on another forum that is a non illuminated adjustable objective varmint scope,and has a bigger objective than the 8.5x25x44. I dont see the scope on the websight though.........

if im wrong then excuse my ignorance.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #8 on:** March 08, 2008, 08:56:10 AM »

It's not available yet, won't be for a few months.

Tim

Quote from: Mueller Optics on March 06, 2008, 11:28:37 AM

Its something were working on right now but I cant give out many details at this time because some things may change based on the beta testing and design.. I can say it will be a 8-32, glass etched, non-illuminated, fine cross hair with target dot and if things go as planned it will have one very unique feature not found in many variable power target scopes. By the way, before you ask, we already have beta testers, lol .. Its still in the early stages so I wouldnt expect a release for at least 90-120 days and maybe longer.

MO

Inrut24/7 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 08, 2008, 10:16:50 AM »

yes i already know that ,but it definatly looks like a new scope on some of the flash adds, by saying i dont see it on there web sight makes me think its the new scope.

Inrut24/7 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 08, 2008, 10:23:20 AM »

Its on the add on this page, it shows the eraticator and another one that looks shorter than my 8.5x25 milldots and i think the objective looks bigger

but i have been wrong quite a few times before

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/sponsors.htm

quickdtoo · « **Reply #11 on:** March 08, 2008, 10:42:54 AM »

If you mean the Mueller banner ad, it's similar to the one that displays at the top of this forum with the gold colored scope which doesn't exist either, none of the scopes are shown together, so there's no perspective to size, and with the scope angled towards the viewer, the objective appears slightly bigger than it really is, it's one of those optical dellusions.

Mueller makes other scopes besides the 8.5-25X Tactical that aren't illuminated, the APV, TacII and the Extreme, the one you're looking at is probably the APV since it has an AO.

Tim

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #12 on:** March 27, 2008, 11:38:32 AM »

I like the sounds of this new scope. One thing I hope they have considered doing is moving the AO adjustment to the side like many others have. It sure makes things easier. Dale

rich56 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 20, 2008, 05:17:49 PM »

I'd like to see a 8.5-25x44 with a dot the size of the Eradicator and 1/4"click adjustments. My problem with the Eradicator is I don;t need the illuminated reticle or the 500mm objective. Otherwise my silver Eradicator is a great scope PS 8-32x44 like what I mentioned will work great for me

sscoyote · « **Reply #14 on:** April 20, 2008, 06:30:41 PM »

I'd like to see 2 models with a new ballistic reticle--maybe a 4-12X and 8.5-25X, side parallax, low profile tgt. turrets, and a tree reticle system with increasingly finer stadia lines the further down u go, similar to a shorter Horus Vison system with maybe 2 inch per hundred yd. line stadia (not MOA, and no dots) down to maybe 15 IPHY. Call it the Tactical Hunter's reticle/scope.

myarmor · « **Reply #15 on:** April 26, 2008, 08:03:10 PM »

Quote from: rich56 on April 20, 2008, 05:17:49 PM

I'd like to see a 8.5-25x44 with a dot the size of the Eradicator and 1/4"click adjustments. My problem with the Eradicator is I don;t need the illuminated reticle or the 500mm objective. Otherwise my silver Eradicator is a great scope PS 8-32x44 like what I mentioned will work great for me

I agree here.
If I do need/want a illum. reticle then I want it to be inconspicuous and not a huge honking knob all up in my eyebell. Though I understand the financial reasons for the big knobs, as they are plentiful and several manufactures use them.
Just a clean dependable side focus, higher powered scope with fitting reticles and good glass for folks that want to shoot farther but can't afford the big boys.
Simple.......in theory

-Aaron

torpedoman · « **Reply #16 on:** April 27, 2008, 01:35:21 PM »

Quote from: DALESCARPENTRY on March 27, 2008, 11:38:32 AM

I like the sounds of this new scope. One thing I hope they have considered doing is moving the AO adjustment to the side like many others have. It sure makes things easier. Dale

I asked mueler about the saddle focus and was told "no plans" so i went with the nikko sterling and am one happy camper makes a good range estimator as a side benifit just turn to focus real good thne look at the dial

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #17 on:** April 30, 2008, 10:42:27 AM »

Quote from: Mueller Optics on March 06, 2008, 11:28:37 AM

Its something were working on right now but I cant give out many details at this time because some things may change based on the beta testing and design.. I can say it will be a 8-32, glass etched, non-illuminated, fine cross hair with target dot and if things go as planned it will have one very unique feature not found in many variable power target scopes. By the way, before you ask, we already have beta testers, lol .. Its still in the early stages so I wouldnt expect a release for at least 90-120 days and maybe longer.

MO

Just wondering if there is any word on this scope. Dale

cobraa · « **Reply #18 on:** May 25, 2008, 04:45:08 PM »

IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO BUY THE Mueller SCOPES FROM THE FACTORY SEEING NO ONE I CAN FIND THAT SELLS THESE SCOPES WOULD SEND TO AUSTRALIA.. I TRYED EVERYWHERE I COULD FIND NO ONE WOULD SEND TO AUSTRALIA. and i know for a fact "it is Legal to send scopes to Australia from America" as i bought 4 Burris Fullfield II 3-9x40 Bplex from the usa no problems..

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #19 on:** May 25, 2008, 05:05:11 PM »

If everything is legal. I will be the middle man. You have to pay all costs though. Dale

quickdtoo · « **Reply #20 on:** May 25, 2008, 05:09:43 PM »

Quote from: cobraa on May 25, 2008, 04:45:08 PM

IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO BUY THE Mueller SCOPES FROM THE FACTORY SEEING NO ONE I CAN FIND THAT SELLS THESE SCOPES WOULD SEND TO AUSTRALIA.. I TRYED EVERYWHERE I COULD FIND NO ONE WOULD SEND TO AUSTRALIA. and i know for a fact "it is Legal to send scopes to Australia from America" as i bought 4 Burris Fullfield II 3-9x40 Bplex from the usa no problems..

There's a NZ dealer listed on the dealer page at Mueller, have ya checked with them? Their webste indicates they accept orders in AU$$.

Tim

http://muelleroptics.com/dealers/#International

http://www.nzhunter.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_19&zenid=qj96dfl8in280m6m6roe3d5t45

cobraa · « **Reply #21 on:** May 31, 2008, 06:18:41 PM »

Yeah Tim thank you for that i knew they had a NZ dealer but mate there is no way I'm paying that outrageous price for it from NZ 269.90 NZD = 221.472 AUD for 1 Mueller APV 4.5-14x40 AO to me door when if the factory offered international orders would only cost me 160.00 USD = 167.528 AUD to me door... that's a difference of $53.94AUD. I just get so pissed off that Australian's cant order stuff from the USA without haven to get a Third Party to Order them for them and then send it to them.. I think American Company's need to wake up to them self's and see that Us Aussies do spend alot of Money in the USA and they need to offer postage to Australia cause stuff in Australia is too damn expensive. thank you very much to everyone who offered to be the middle man but Ive bought a scope off eBay that should do the trick..

MUELLER YA LOOSING A LOT OF SALES NOT SENDING TO AUSTRALIA...

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #22 on:** June 03, 2008, 11:54:56 AM »

Quote from: Mueller Optics on March 06, 2008, 11:28:37 AM

Its something were working on right now but I cant give out many details at this time because some things may change based on the beta testing and design.. I can say it will be a 8-32, glass etched, non-illuminated, fine cross hair with target dot and if things go as planned it will have one very unique feature not found in many variable power target scopes. By the way, before you ask, we already have beta testers, lol .. Its still in the early stages so I wouldnt expect a release for at least 90-120 days and maybe longer.

MO

Well it's been past 90 days. Is there any word on this new scope you are comming out with? Thanks Dale

jnclement · « **Reply #23 on:** June 03, 2008, 11:58:43 AM »

It was past my 90 days, based on an email I sent to Mueller in November, when I posted back in March. Sounds like it's vaporware to me.

Inrut24/7 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 29, 2008, 06:15:59 AM »

Is there any news on this scope yet?

torpedoman · « **Reply #25 on:** June 29, 2008, 01:12:16 PM »

I'm waiting on their side focus and they probablly will never make one

Mueller Optics · « **Reply #26 on:** June 30, 2008, 01:12:13 AM »

We have already tested a few demos but they didn't meet my expectations and I refuse to release something like that so we are currently tweaking and improving some things. This scope is way behind schedule and I apologize, next time I will bite my tongue so we don't end up in this situation again... I have no control over the design time so I'm in the same boat as everyone and just waiting and hoping things start progressing a little quicker.. It will happen, its just a matter of time and unfortunately I have no control over that time.

Thanks
MO

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #27 on:** June 30, 2008, 03:38:21 AM »

Thanks for the update. Dale

nomosendero · « **Reply #28 on:** July 06, 2008, 05:17:40 AM »

Quote from: Mueller Optics on June 30, 2008, 01:12:13 AM

We have already tested a few demos but they didn't meet my expectations and I refuse to release something like that so we are currently tweaking and improving some things. This scope is way behind schedule and I apologize, next time I will bite my tongue so we don't end up in this situation again... I have no control over the design time so I'm in the same boat as everyone and just waiting and hoping things start progressing a little quicker.. It will happen, its just a matter of time and unfortunately I have no control over that time.

Thanks
MO

Is there a possibility you will offer a Mil-Dot or some type of multiple aiming point reticle ?

Mueller Optics · « **Reply #29 on:** July 07, 2008, 10:36:22 AM »

Quote from: nomosendero on July 06, 2008, 05:17:40 AM

Quote from: Mueller Optics on June 30, 2008, 01:12:13 AM
We have already tested a few demos but they didn't meet my expectations and I refuse to release something like that so we are currently tweaking and improving some things. This scope is way behind schedule and I apologize, next time I will bite my tongue so we don't end up in this situation again... I have no control over the design time so I'm in the same boat as everyone and just waiting and hoping things start progressing a little quicker.. It will happen, its just a matter of time and unfortunately I have no control over that time.

Thanks
MO

Is there a possibility you will offer a Mil-Dot or some type of multiple aiming point reticle ?

Not in this particular scope.

Thanks
MO