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Offline PJ

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I tried the butt stock on my Encore 16 1/4" 45-70
« on: July 11, 2003, 11:32:15 AM »
And I don't like it.The stock is nice but,the recoil with that damm thing on  is NASTY.I think I'll stick with the pistol grip and just get me a 20" or 26" 6mmBR or some lite kicker.
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2003, 11:58:56 AM »
I put one on an 18" 450 marlin full bull barrel and I didn't like it either. Set it back up as a pistol and I can shoot it much more accurately.  KN
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2003, 12:59:11 PM »
My buddies contender (rifle)with a bullberry on it shoots pretty nice,light kicking with the bullberry wood on it.BUT it does have a brake on it.
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2003, 01:54:56 PM »
PJ:  Is your stock wood or composite? Does it have a recoil pad ?  What load are you shooting in the Encore ?  I have a Super 16  45/70 Contender with a Choat folding stock.  Shooting 300 gr jhp with 42.9 gr of IMR 4198 recoil isn't bad.  Been thinking of trading my Savage 110 in 300 Win Mag for a Encore rifle in 300 Win Mag because it would be lighter & thinner. Wondering now is it going to kick like a mule ? Has anyone done this same thing & been happy with the results?  Thanks Ken  8)
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2003, 03:35:50 PM »
I have the composite stock with the factory recoil pad.The loads were 53grs H-4198 and a 300gr HP.No muzzle brake on it I don't like them.
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2003, 05:07:27 PM »
I bought my 375JDJ it was set up as a Carbine rifle. 16 1/4 inch barrel. It sure would thump you off the sand bags. I hunted with it that way and took two deer with it. Now it wears a pistol grip.
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2003, 05:12:37 PM »
is the pistol grip legal on 16.25?
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2003, 05:14:37 PM »
YEP!
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2003, 07:27:56 PM »
PJ:  I can understand your recoil problem with that load.  I have a 1895 Marlin 45/70 that I load 49.2gr IMR 4198 W/300 gr JHP (kicks pretty good-no recoil pad).  Your Encore is probably fairly light with the composite stock. Thanks for the pic.  Did you shoot your 300 Win Mag as a rifle before you cut it down? Thanks Ken.
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2003, 08:37:19 PM »
Nope, I did shoot it as a 26" pistol :) Before I cut it down.
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2003, 03:58:42 AM »
HEY, what happened to ole woodpecker lips. Seriously man, my first encounter w/ 45-70 was many years ago with 16 1/4" barrel(no brake) on a Contender carbine with rynite stock.  Even in my younger(read tougher) days, I freely admit I couldn't handle it.  OOOOUUCH!!!!!!  This barrel is FOR SALE!!  Fortunately, I made myself try it just once with pistol grips and the "for sale" sign was put away immediately.   Walt   :grin:
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2003, 05:19:23 AM »
I guess I'm just used to handguns.The 45-70 does not seem so bad as a pistol but,man as a carbine it's down right Nasty.I'm not going to sale it or anything like that. I had a Super-16 in the Contender and miss it dearly should have never sold it.I like it as a pistol and I think it's going to stay that way.
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