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How Many Slaves Do You Own
« on: March 17, 2008, 07:59:20 AM »
Fred Reed, was a police reporter for one of the large Washington newspapers.......He now writes a column which can be googled "Fred on Everything".

Fred published a weekly online column in which he got to say the things his editors would never, ever have let him write in the paper. His stuff is iconoclastic and various articles have probably offended everyone regardless of political orientation.  So, with the warning that "This is definitely not politically correct," here comes Fred.

The following is an essay regarding the failings of a system and a culture. Please note that he elegantly describes the mood of many Americans and he does so without prejudice.

Slavery Reparations ......by Fred Reed!


On the Web I find that Henry Louis Gates Jr., the chairman of Afro-American Studies at Harvard, is demanding that whites pay reparations to blacks.  It's because of slavery, see. He is joined in this endeavor by a gaggle of other professional blacks. I guess he'll send me a bill, huh?

I feel like saying, "Let me get this straight, Hank. I'm slow. Be patient. You want free money because of slavery, right? I don't blame you." I'd like free money too. Tell you what. I believe in justice. I'll give you a million dollars for every slave I own, and another million for every year you were a slave.  Fair enough? But tell me, how many slaves do you suppose I have? In round numbers, I mean...Say to the nearest dozen. And how long were you a slave?

Oh. In other words, I owe you reparations for some thing that I didn't do and didn't happen to you. That makes sense. Like lug nuts on a birthday cake.

Personally, I think you owe me reparations for things you didn't do and never happened to me. I've never been coated in Dutch chocolate and thrown from the Eiffel Tower .  I'll bet you've never done it to anyone. I want reparations. Kind of silly, isn't it?

But if we're going to talk about reparations, that's a street that runs in two directions.  You want money from me for what some other whites did to some other blacks in another century.  How about you guys paying whites reparations for current expenses caused by blacks? Not long ago blacks burned down half of Los Angeles , a city in my country.  Cities are expensive, Hank. Build one sometime and you'll see what I mean.  Whites had to pay taxes to repair Los Angeles for you. You can send me a check.

Now, yes, I know you burned LA because you didn't like the verdict in the trial of those police officers. Well, I didn't like the verdict in the Simpson trial.  But I didn't burn my house and loot Korean grocers. Over the years blacks have burned a lot of American cities: Newark , Detroit , Watts , on and on.  Now add in the fantastic cost over the years of welfare in all its forms, of large police forces and jails and security systems in department stores.

I can't live in the capital city of my own country because of crime committed by blacks.  Toss in the cultural cost of lowering standards in everything for the benefit of blacks. See what I mean?

Now, I'd view things differently if you said, "Fred, blacks can't get anywhere in a modern country without education. We know that. We need better schools, smarter teachers, harder courses, books with smaller pictures and bigger words. Can you help us?" I'd say, "Hallelujah! Hoo-ahh! Not just yes, but hell yes.  Let's sell an aircraft carrier and get these folks some real schools and get them into the economic main-stream." I'd say it partly because it would be the right thing to do, and partly, because I'd like to add you guys to the tax base.

The current custodial state is expensive.  I'd just love for blacks to study and learn to compete and stop burning places.  But is it going to happen?

You may not believe it, but I, and most whites, don't like seeing blacks as miserable and screwed up as they are. I spend a fair amount of time in the projects.  Those places are ugly. It's no fun watching perfectly good kids turn into semi-literate dope dealers who barely speak English. It just plain ain't right. But, Hank, what am I supposed to do about it? I can't do your children's homework.  At some point, people have to do things for themselves, or they don't get done.

Maybe it's time.

I'll tell you what I see out in the world, Hank.  I think blacks are too accustomed to getting anything they want by just demanding it. True, it has worked for over half a century. Get a few hundred people in the street, implicitly threaten to loot and burn, holler about slavery, and the Great White Cash Spigot turns on. Thing is, whites don't much buy it any longer.  Most recognize that what once was a civil-rights movement has become a shakedown game. Few people still feel responsible for the failings and inadequacies of blacks. Political correctness keeps the lid on -- but everyone knows the score, which scares me, Hank.

On one hand, blacks hate whites and incline toward looting and burning.  (The whites you hate are the ones who marched in the civil-rights movement. Ever think about that?)

On the other hand, whites quietly grow wearier and wearier of it. Not good.

On the third hand (allow me three hands, for rhetorical convenience), blacks keep demanding things.

As I write, you demand reparations for slavery.

Blacks in Oklahoma (I think it was) want money for some ancient race riot.

Other blacks reject the Declaration of Independence, blacks in New York hint broadly at burning and looting over a trial, yet more demand the elimination of the Confederate flag, and the federal equal opportunity apparatus, which means blacks, wants to sue Silicon Valley for not hiring nonexistent black engineers. That's a lot of demanding for one month, Hank. What happens if whites ever say, "No"?

Now, how about you? You've got a cushy job up there at Harvard, and you can hoot and holler about what swine and bandits whites are.  I guess it's lots of fun, and you get a salary for it.  But don't you think you might do blacks more good if you told them to complain less and study more? For example, if you want blacks to work in Silicon Gulch, the best approach might be to find some really smart black guys, and get them to study digital design, not Black Studies.  That's how everybody else does it. It works. Then blacks wouldn't feel left out, and racial tensions would decline.

Sound like a plan?

Just out of curiosity, how many hours a week do professors of Afro-American Studies spend in the projects, encouraging poor black kids to study real life sho-nuf subjects?
 
  
  
 








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Re: How Many Slaves Do You Own
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2008, 10:24:48 AM »
Great article, I'm sure he will be called a racist and many other unpublishable names. It's funny you can't even discuss this topic without being branded a bigot, unless that is you are on the pro-reparations side.

Speaking as a middle aged white heterosexual male (or Satan if you wish) I know I get tired of anyone regardless of color complaining about people owing them anything. I make a decent living but did I start there? Heck no! I started doing cabinetry when I was 19 years old for minimum wage and watched and learned from others and built up my talents over the next 24 years until I could get the kind of money I make now. There are a lot of people out there who aren't willing to pay their dues and want everything now and unfortunately the black population especially have so-called leaders (Farrakhan, Jackson) that make them believe they can't make something of themselves by hard work so the government should support them.

Look at Clarence Thomas, from ghetto to supreme court. You have to admire the kind of hard work that takes regardless of what you think of his beliefs, yet blacks call him an uncle Tom like he's some kind of traitor for making something of himself.

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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2008, 11:37:33 AM »
I want reparations for the plantation my family lost when slavery was outlawed,I think the blacks should pay them too.
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2008, 02:59:34 PM »
I freed all of mine years ago. This is hogwash. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2008, 03:17:44 PM »
Like I have said before I am sick and tired of hearing 200 years of oppression!!!!!!! The black people  now have more advantages than the white people now. I am sick and tired of hearing this BS!!!!! They say that something like 70% of our prisoners are filled with black people. Well I say they must commit 70% of the crime to be there. As you grow up you learn what is right and wrong. Maybe they don't. Dale
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2008, 04:01:27 PM »
i think that the blacks and whites owe my people a buck are two . just an old Cherokees point of view ;D
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2008, 04:05:36 PM »
Yep, slavery is bad.  And yes many slaves were terribly mistreated.  However that was over 100 years ago, get over it already.  I wonder how many of them know that many of the slave traders who sold their ancestors into slaver were themselves black.   I also ever wounder if they ever give any thought as to where they would be if their ancestors had not been dragged to America.  I recently heard that nearly the entire generation of blacks between the ages of 19 and 40 who live in Africa are expected to die of AIDS.   Let's talk about poverty. How many blacks do you think literally died from starvation in America this past year?  Probably not as many that died just today in Africa.  Blacks think they have it tough in America... maybe they should take a trip to Africa and see how well their African relatives are doing.  

By the way, my relatives didn't arrive in this country till long after slavery had been abolished so does that make me exempt from this reparation thing or am I still culpable simply because I am white?   Oh, wait, that would be racist wouldn't it and we all know Black can't be racist now don't we?    
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2008, 04:12:03 PM »
i think that the blacks and whites owe my people a buck are two . just an old Cherokees point of view ;D
Here we go again. Me and my family had nothing to do with the beginning of this country. I agree that how it was gone about may have been wrong in some ways but the strong survive the weak parish. I personaly owe you nothing. Sorry you lost your land but if had not been to us it would have been to England or France. Dale
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2008, 04:16:53 PM »
i think that the blacks and whites owe my people a buck are two . just an old Cherokees point of view ;D
You guys get to run casinos tax free also. I would have to say that is a buck or two. Dale
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2008, 04:21:38 PM »
What would the cost of the war that freed the slaves cost in today's dollars? I think if these so called reparations are going to be discussed, they should be offset by the cost of the war. Maybe the whites will be the ones getting a check?
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2008, 04:33:12 PM »
Im sick and tired of people getting treated special because of being minority's,native american,you name it.Do they have any concept of the way their people ended up as slaves?Sold by other blacks in AFRICA,if they dont like it here ship em back.Im part NA and I cant stand to hear Indians whine about the US,they kille and robbed their own people to take over their lands for eons before the whites moved in,get over it,the govt has been giving you handouts since the 1800,s and you are still getting them,the US dont owe any of them a damn thing,just a bunch of lazy SOBS looking for yet another handout.
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2008, 04:35:21 PM »
You know. This whole thing is BS!!!!!!! I really don't want to hear it. If you are piece of sh*t that robs and steals from the general public. You desreve where you are. I have been through very tough times in my life. With no two coins to rub together. If you feel you must rob, steal and sell drugs to make your ends meet be ready to go to jail to pay for it. Simple as that. Dale
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2008, 05:45:34 PM »
Are you wanting to know how many I own "rat now" or rat now plust in the past? Ya gotta be specific don't ya know.

Let's see there was .... and ... or was it.... no I think hmmm, come to think of it I think maybe the grand total is some where around ZERO! Yup that's it that's the number.

I am so sick and tired of blacks and others not just them but at least at times around here at any rate it does seem like most of them want something for nothing. Damn we own no living person any thing for what someone else no longer alive did to some other person no longer alive. Geez get a life and take some responsibility for your self. If they'd get off their sorry dead asses and work they'd not be so poor and misunderstood.

Those who just wanna be "people" rather than BLACK people seem to do just fine. It's only those who wish to dwell forever on the fact their face is black that can't seem to get anywhere. They just piss and moan about how badly they are treated rather than trying to get out and made a living. Those types I have no use for at all. Those who wanna work and earn a living can and usually do.


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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2008, 06:05:22 PM »
 I just laugh when I hear a black complaining about how bad they were treated, I tell them to do a little research on the Irish, they were even lower than a black when they first came to America, fortunately, they had the wisdom and initiative to overcome the objectives and raise to a higher level.


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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2008, 07:25:06 PM »
A couple of years ago, some research group did a study about how minorities were doing in the areas of education, it also broke it down into who had been here the longest and achievements made by groups after coming to this country.  It even broke down the minorities into groups.  Most groups were doing well, especially the groups from SE Asia, and the Far East.  Of the Latin groups the Cubans, and Porto Ricians were doing well, as were the Central Americans.  The three groups that were not doing so well were the Native Americans, Mexicans, and Blacks.  Three groups that have been here the longest.  I copied that pie chart and stuck it on the bulletin board at work, that almost caused a riot at work.  It was because the people there that were members of those groups realized it was correct.  They did not like to see it in print.  It hit too close to home for them.

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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2008, 10:35:55 PM »
Gotta admit is just hilarious when I hear a minority of any type argue about being "held down" when they OUTRANK me!  I'm basically an Equal Opportunity Hater...  I hate everyone who isn't like me...  Now that doesn't mean that I hate folks that don't look like me... I'm just not real partial to those folks who don't work for a living, who don't demand that their kids go to school and make good grades to prepare for college.  If you live like trash and look like trash and act like trash then you are trash and I don't like you.  Some of my good friends are black but they fit my "type" of friend...  Lot's of white folks that I can't stand 'cause the are just trash....


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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2008, 02:28:50 AM »
  I walked in the house not long ago while the wife was watching some show on TV about some actress that started some big program where they are giving millions to the people of Africa. I sort of went off the deep end about why in the H#@& we have to give the money to them when we have alot of poor in this country! My wife told me that this group had indeed went into the projects of several cities here and gave away millions to the blacks. And do you know what they did with the money!!?? They bought I-Pods, Game Boys, and Boom Boxes! Bull crap like that. So this group decided to help the people that use the money for food and clothes and who actually said thank you for the money.
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Re: How Many Slaves Do You Own
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2008, 03:14:21 AM »
To answer the original question, I do own a couple of slaves, but they are cylinders and they aren't actually black.  I think they are silver, or aluminum colored. 

Okay, I'm being facetious, but that's all the seriousness I can muster up on the subject.  Those who waste their time on such fanciful, silly ideas like reparations, should get real and consider some other worthwhile advocacy--such as curtailing out of wedlock births among their race.
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2008, 03:28:48 AM »
This blog should strike a chord in the heart of all Americans---ALL---.
Some folks just have a need too blame someone else for their lack---lack of initiative, bravery, fair play, and good sense.
They just want---they are blind to EARN.
I see Hispanics here who have found a way of making a good living doing yards---I have never seen a black yardman.
Yes the entrepreneurs make it off the back and sweat of others---always have, always will---and yard work is not a foundation for middle class living, However; it is the basis for making do until you can get the education to accomplish other goals. NOW, not many of these boys will--some---not many.
I keep remembering that there will always be the poor. I also keep remembering that there is opportunity.
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Some of their leaders are living quite comfortably off their plight and, really, I don't think they want the status quo too end--for their sake.
I might also remind  folks that there are quiet a few whites who are of the same ilk.
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2008, 06:25:57 AM »
  Here's how they want it to be.
http://jimbyrd.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/welfare-aint-what-it-used-to-be/
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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2008, 08:19:09 AM »
  Here's how they want it to be.
http://jimbyrd.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/welfare-aint-what-it-used-to-be/
Here's the link to where it was "snoped"
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  I'm so sick to my stomach I can't eat my lunch. >:(
This can't be true!!!!!!! This is a joke right? Dale
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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2008, 08:55:37 AM »
It's called initiative, and an awful lot of people in this country don't have any.  Our welfare system, and all the social services we have, are helping to perpetuate it.  My wife's family is a good example.  The four oldest members of this family, of which my wife is number four, is successful.  They are married and have loving families.  Good jobs, and nice homes.  One could even be classified as wealthy.  Then there is the two youngest.  They always had everything given to them, therefore they never developed any incentives to go out and do anything themselves. 

The older of the two, had two kids out of wedlock, and became a drug addict.  She has never worked, she raised those kids in some of the worst ghettos you can imagine.  She also had an open door policy, door open to any man who wanted to spend some time with her, and bring drugs.  She hates me because I refuse to take her up on her advances.  She is currently living with her youngest, in public assisted housing.  Crying about how nobody loves her or her son.  The oldest of her two boys, and I had a confrontation when he was in his teens.  I physically gave him a severe whooping, when he cussed and took a swing at his grandfather.  Then his Grandfather and I took him for a long ride.  I pointed out how things were in his life, and how things could be.  I told him to quit whining like a baby about not having anything.  I told him if he ever wanted anything he had to get out and work for it.  I took him to a friends Tobacco Farm, where I showed him what I had done when growing up.  I challenged him to make something of him self.  Otherwise he was going to grow up to be a sorry piece of trash, just like his uncle Hector (not his real name).  The following day, the young man was present when his uncle Hector took a swing at me.  After I finished with Hector, I calmly put my arm around the young man's shoulder and we took a long walk while the family took care of his uncle.  I asked him if he wanted to grow up and be like that piece of ----?  The young man turned around and has become very successful.  He realized what life had to offer and he wanted his share.  And he realized to get it he had to get out and work for it.  Today he is drawing an Air Force retirement for his twenty years of service.  He has a very good job in the Midwest, a long way from his mother and brother.  After watching his mother and her male friends throughout his young life, I seriously doubt he will ever get married, he just don't trust women.  He seems perfectly happy being single.  The youngest son is still living with mother and has never worked at anything other than entry level jobs.  With his attitude jobs don't last long.  He has waist length greasy hair.  Seldom bathes, and wears rags most of the time.  My wife gave him a new pair of jeans several years ago for Christmas, along with other items.  She requested he wear them when the family went out for dinner a few nights later.  He showed up wearing those pants, as requested.  But he had ripped open both knees, spattered bleach on them, cut slashes in the fabric, then washed them.  He did not want them to look new he said.  He and his mom feels the world owes them everything the would like to have, and they can't understand why everyone hates them..

My wife's youngest sister married Hector.  He is a sorry piece of trash.  Jobs don't last long with him either.  His family has disassociated themselves from him.  My wife's family has also denounced him, and even went to court to get restraining orders to keep him away.  Hector knows not to show up on my doorstep.  I would take that as a hostile move on his part and shoot him, or at least break more of his bones, and he knows it.  He is always scamming the state welfare system to get something.  For the last 30 years they have lived on welfare, and constantly cry about how they just can't get ahead.  How employers are so unfair and won't give him a job.  He's got a reputation in their small town.  Now his health is going due to the booze.  Never figured out where he got money for booze.  They move every year or so.  They move in and squat on an empty piece of property, then it takes the land lord six to eight months to force them out.  They usually find another place before the sheriff shows up, and sort of disappear.  They get their welfare checks at a PO Box, that is the only constant in their lives.  They feel the world owes them something.

Every year two days after Christmas, the family has a big get together.  We usually meet at a large restaurant, and reserve a private room.  One year, two or three years after the teenager and I had our confrontation, we were sitting down to dinner on one of those occasions.  My wife's oldest brother asked Jimmy, the settled down teen, about why he was always so well behaved when I was present?  Jimmy replied, "Uncle Rog means it when he says settle down and be quite.  I saw what he did to Uncle Hector, I don't want no part of that".  Mike said "A little discipline won't hurt nobody".   Jimmy smiled, then replied, "No, but Uncle Rog will if you don't listen".  The pacifist in this family think I am a brute, But Jimmy really likes me.  That means more to me than all the rest of the family put together.

Ha, I got a little off the subject towards the end.  Oh well like my wife says "Get over it".  I tend to ramble sometimes, a privilege of getting old.
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Re: How Many Slaves Do You Own
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2008, 11:21:03 AM »
don't take the old Cherokee thing to hard dale i was smiling when i said it we got over it long ago . would be nice if you bought me a new 45-70 handi though.and actually i worked is a state prison taking care of and fighting with the dopers rapist and all the rest so i would say i paid my own way o yea i worked construction  was in the military  one war  some colage and I'm still in the boat with youand no paddle great ant it
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Re: How Many Slaves Do You Own
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2008, 12:45:24 PM »
don't take the old Cherokee thing to hard dale i was smiling when i said it we got over it long ago . would be nice if you bought me a new 45-70 handi though.and actually i worked is a state prison taking care of and fighting with the dopers rapist and all the rest so i would say i paid my own way o yea i worked construction  was in the military  one war  some colage and I'm still in the boat with youand no paddle great ant it
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Re: How Many Slaves Do You Own
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2008, 01:53:17 PM »
Just to put my two cents in......
I wrote a paper very similar to this subject and was branded a racist.  Not a good thing when the student body is 60 percent black, 30 percent native American, and then there were the rest of us.  One night my room was broken into, my TV, Radio, and some inexpensive, sentimental jewelry was stolen. On my way to report it, I was met in the lobby of student housing by three black women that wanted to know where I got off writing and publishing that paper. 

Checking the room to make sure at least 2-3 of my friends were with in ear shot. I told them I would gladly explain myself after they answer one question.  My question was, how is your education paid for?
One had been sponsored by a local church in her home town. (She was constantly glassy-eyed and not from crying) One had received multiple scholarships only available to underprivileged people of color, yet she drove a $25,000 vehicle. The other receive Native American benefits because her name is on the rolls.

After hearing this, I told them you have explained my point perfectly as to why I published that paper.
I knew my career path as early as 12 and started learning and absorbing all the knowledge I can about the subject. I didn't follow the crowd, do drugs, didn't get pregnant and put myself in a situation where I couldn't achieve that goal.

My work paid off and was able to receive a full tuition scholarship, 1 of 6 given out every year. This didn't cover my room and board so my mother worked a second job at a fast food restaurant to pay for my room because she didn't want me working, she wanted me to go to school. She made too much money at her regular job for me to qualify for government assistance (my pell grant was $83) And by the way,  I can trace back in the family history that I know, that I'm about 1/16th cherokee, that is just one branch of my tree though. My name is not on the rolls because someone else in my family didn't believe in hand outs either.

I work my ass off to do what I should to take care of me and my family. I don't look for hand outs, and "you people" who have a free ride because of the color of your skin, nothing more have decided to take everything I own just because you don't like me laying out the truth.

I came very close to being beat down, but lucky for me, everyone knew the rednecks carried and I don't mean toothpicks. There were far too many of my friends in the room for them to go any further but they got there threats in on the way out.


this rant is basically this........
I work for everything I have, it isn't much but it is mine. And if you are foolish enough to try to take it from me, you'll pay the price.
But don't you dare say I "owe" you anything. Especially when you have it far better than i do.

 
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Re: How Many Slaves Do You Own
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2008, 02:07:08 PM »
Like i said put em on a boat with a slow leak.
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Re: How Many Slaves Do You Own
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2008, 05:03:58 AM »
welcome Retagale to the forum, and telling it like it is.
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Re: How Many Slaves Do You Own
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2008, 06:55:39 AM »
Well said RETAGAYLE,  Know exactly where you are coming from.

As for my being part Cherokee.  My mother feels it is a skeleton in the family closet, that she does not want anyone to know about.  She refuses to let anyone discuss it in her presence.  She says that is something that comes from my father's side of the family, and I feel if word got out she would leave him over it.  She has said many times if she had known it before they were married she never would have married him.  My mother is extremely prejudiced.
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What Is A Veteran?
A 'Veteran' -- whether active duty, discharged, retired, or reserve -- is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life.' That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country today who no longer understand that fact.

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Re: How Many Slaves Do You Own
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2008, 03:57:24 AM »
The insurance companies pay reparations for undeclared emotional and or loss of consortium.  However, you have to show the harm actually exists.  Now with the blacks here demanding reparations, where can they show the harm or injury caused?  Are they educated better than in Africa, is the standard of living here worse than before they came, can they speak, vote, and live as they see fit, can they run for public office and assemble for redress of grievances; are they better off medically and do they now have laws preventing discrimination against them and enforced?   I don't see where the harm exists for payment of reparations.   You do not impute the negligence or reprehensible acts resulting from actions by others to some innocent sole based on his skin color.  You cannot impute negligence to any innocent party for actions by another.  So where and how do they think that there is a legal position?  Just because  ancestral injustices occurred does not impute that action to those who did not have or take part in the injustice regardless of anyone's mind set.
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