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Offline rebAL

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Certified nuts & RTK&BA
« on: March 21, 2008, 04:38:15 AM »
Please don't flame me;  I am a long time card carrying  NRA  supporter.  Do you think there should be any safeguards regulating sick minded people from acquiring firearms?  How should this be administered if at all?  What about a healthy person becoming impaired at a later time?  Do you think this should be a concern regarding 2ed. amendment rights? 

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Re: Certified nuts & RTK&BA
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2008, 04:59:00 AM »
Well, if the rest of us can carry, any problems are quickly corrected.

If you go back 50 years ago, psychiatrists and psychologists were rewarded for declaring people nuts and putting them in loony bins, which promptly overflowed.

Prior to that, back around 1920 the eugenics crowd were finding many reasons to sterilize people. In between, there was a rash of lobotomies to "cure" all sorts of ailments, "and if there's nothing wrong with you, why it (a brand of snake oil) will cure that, too."

I can see an overly wide net thrown over people for political reasons. Again.

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Re: Certified nuts & RTK&BA
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2008, 03:56:06 PM »
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The only reason to "regulate" the rights of any man is because he might infringe or violate the rights of another man.

If a person is so mentally ill that he might present a danger to other members of a community, he / she should be confined for his or her own safety and for that of others.  Likewise, that person should be denied those tools which might enable them to do such harm.

If the condition is manageable by drugs or counseling, and the individual in question has not demonstrated a penchant toward harm nor previously engaged in lawless behavior, there is no reason to deprive that citizen of their rights when they have their reasonable faculties about them and intact.

What qualifies as "sick-minded"?

Sexual depravity?  Violence?  Alcoholism?  Being a clean- freak?  Disagreeing with a cop?  Being a Libertartian?

Who draws that line?

Quote from: C.S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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They may talk of a "New Order" in the  world, but what they have in mind is only a revival of the oldest and worst tyranny.   No liberty, no religion, no hope.   It is an unholy alliance of power and pelf to dominate and to enslave the human race.