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10MM.
« on: March 31, 2008, 01:42:55 PM »
If i was going to get a 10MM Glock,is there any other after market barrels,OR,factory?As you guys no,I'm a newbie and don't no the correct model# for the cal. formats.
Would i be better off buying a 40mm.,and go from there?.I'm thinking of the ones just above the sub compacts..pan.

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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2008, 01:47:41 PM »
Before you guys start,lol.I want as many different calibers in one model as i can get.lol.thanks.pan.

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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2008, 02:52:50 AM »
Before you guys start,lol.I want as many different calibers in one model as i can get.lol.thanks.pan.
Always plenty of aftermarket stuff available for Glocks. The so called "Compact" Glock in 40 & 9mm are the mdl 23 and 19 respectively. The mdl 20 is the fullsize 10mm. With a barrel change you could also shoot .40 and .357 Sig. Don't know if anyone makes a 9mm barrel for the mdl 20 or not, but I'm not a fan of that conversion anyway. But someone may make one. You'd just have to check on that one.
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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2008, 03:19:54 AM »
if you get the 20which is the fullsize glock, you can get a 40 barrel for it.  if you get the 40 s+w (model 22 and 23) you can not convert it to 10mm.  fyi.

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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2008, 12:37:30 PM »
Thanks guys.I don't know for sure witch one,but this weekend I'm walking out with one if em.lol. pan.

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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2008, 12:42:27 PM »
I have an aftermarket barrel in my G20.
Look up glockmeister... they have what you need, want, and more

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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2008, 01:53:05 AM »
The "Lone Wolf" aftermarket barrels from Lone Wolf Distributors are the best value going---------IMO.
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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2008, 01:17:32 PM »
I wrote S&W a few years ago about a conversion kit for a 1006 in 10mm to 40 S&W. 
I gather to do this you will need a barrel (Possibly Depends on how the gun picks up the round in either controlled or in a push feed) you would need a new spring and new magazines.  the 40 is shorter and you would need a mag that would fit in the large frame but hold the ctgs forward so you would not have a stove pipe.
Smith wrote back that it was a great idea but they were not going to produce any kit.  They suggested that I buy a new 40 from them.
There is a copy of the CZ 75 from Italy ( I think it's called the EAA "Trafalio or the witness" that is based on a 45 frame and there are all kinds of kits to change the gun from 9mm to 357 sig, 9X21, 38 Super, 40S&W, 41 Action express, 10mm and 45 Acp.  They did make a few that were a three caliber set.  9, 40 and 41AE.
Hope it's helpfull.

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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2008, 04:00:55 PM »
The 10mm mags work fine with  the .40, at least in those I've tried. The only 10mm I currently own is the EAA that mcwoodduck reffered to. Semi auto pistols are controlled feed by necessity of design. A barrel and recoil spring change all all it takes to get the conversion up and running.
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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2008, 07:09:04 PM »
if you get the 20which is the fullsize glock, you can get a 40 barrel for it.  if you get the 40 s+w (model 22 and 23) you can not convert it to 10mm.  fyi.
   
              Can you tell me why you would need to buy a 40 cal barrell when the 10mm is a 40 cal.

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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2008, 01:34:24 AM »
if you get the 20which is the fullsize glock, you can get a 40 barrel for it.  if you get the 40 s+w (model 22 and 23) you can not convert it to 10mm.  fyi.
   
              Can you tell me why you would need to buy a 40 cal barrell when the 10mm is a 40 cal.

As by design the .40 and 10mm cases headspace on the case mouth, and the .40 is shorter than the 10. A condition of excessive headspace might exist if you loaded .40 in a 10mm barrel. If you don't understand "Head Space" do a quick search. You will find that this condition can be hard on equipment and shooters.
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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2008, 02:48:08 AM »
Thanks a lot guys for all the information. :).I ended up getting a g22.I will be getting after market barrels for it from LW.
I just received a new copy of Cheaper than Dirt and i can get everything except 10mm. for it.I got it for$ 435.00,reconditioned from the factory,new book and all,complete!.How did i do?,price wise?.Brand new they sell for $525.00 around here.I have to wait for it to get here,I'm from another state,AAAGGGHHH.i hate to wait!!!.I really would of liked a 10mm also,but,i guess i can get along without it.
I'm trying to get as much as i can before the Elections.After that,well we all know that they will shut us down, IF they get in.
Start getting you stuff now guys and girls.Believe me you don't want to wait!!!.pan.

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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2008, 12:40:42 PM »
For the rest of your life you will wish you had gotten a 10mm!
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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2008, 02:33:09 PM »
For the rest of your life you will wish you had gotten a 10mm!
:)
    :) I agree, the 10 is king .

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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2008, 04:07:44 AM »
Believe me i know that the 10 is the king,lol.Money is kind of tight,sooo i had to make some decision's based on what to get and with the most calibers.I hope to swing a subcompact in the 10 before the sh#$%@#$ falls.Thanks again guys for all your help.pan.

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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2008, 07:16:45 PM »
You made a very good pick. I have owned quite a few different Glocks over the years. If I could only own one it would be the Glock 22. One thing about the 40 S&W is you can run bullets from 135 grains up to 200 grains in the 40 . With a barrel change you can run the 357 Sig. all in the same gun. I know you were interested in the 10mm so take a look at the 200 Grain FMJ and XTP loads that Double Tap puts out. They are loaded to similar velocity to the Hornady factory loads with the same weight bullet.

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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2008, 09:48:24 AM »
Sounds like an accident waiting to happen. Having both a 10mm and 40s&w barrel for the same gun I mean. Accidentally firing the wrong cartridge in the wrong barrel. Handload? Load 10mm to 40S&W levels and get a 357sig barrel instead of 40 to avoid confusion . JMHO

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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2008, 10:55:49 AM »
Sounds like an accident waiting to happen. Having both a 10mm and 40s&w barrel for the same gun I mean. Accidentally firing the wrong cartridge in the wrong barrel. Handload? Load 10mm to 40S&W levels and get a 357sig barrel instead of 40 to avoid confusion . JMHO

10mm round won't fit in the .40 chamber. If you load and shoot a .40 in a 10mm chamber, you'll most likely survive without injury.  IMO any responsible person should be able to keep track of the proper ammo for their firearms. (FWIW .357 Sig will chamber in a .40 or 10mm barrel.)
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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2008, 11:21:48 AM »
 Of course the longer 10mm wont fit in the shorter 40sw chamber but vise versa. Shooting cartridges in guns they weren't made for cant be good on the gun, not to mention there goes your 40/357 brass. Accidents happen. 

http://www.thegunzone.com/10v40.html

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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2008, 01:39:09 AM »
 
Of course the longer 10mm wont fit in the shorter 40sw chamber but vise versa. Shooting cartridges in guns they weren't made for cant be good on the gun, not to mention there goes your 40/357 brass. Accidents happen. 

http://www.thegunzone.com/10v40.html
I think my position is pretty clear on the use of the correct ammunition for the caliber of the gun. Many of us have multiple calibers in the same platform, identical in size, shape, and look. Owning these combinations, in it's self, is not dangerous. It only becomes so, if I do not use the proper ammunition for them. It is MY responsibility to insure that doesn't happen.
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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2008, 07:31:02 AM »
Although I don't own one gun in different calibers I do try to be as safe and responsible as possible. I know enough about guns and bullets to know what goes where, but someone without as much knowledge might not. I'm not saying its the end of the world to have a setup like this, I'm just saying *extra* precaution is needed. Especially If you go shooting with someone that doesn't know about that particular gun&ammunition.

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« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2008, 08:17:39 AM »
Most serious gun owners own identical/near identical guns in more than one caliber. We tend to get different calibers in the platform we like. I have a few duplications in my safe, like Glock 17/22, EAAs in 9mm/.40/10mm/.45. All of which are identical, including the mags. Again, to own these combinations, is not of it's self dangerous. It only becomes so, if I do something stupid. And sometimes stupid hurts!!
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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2008, 06:58:04 AM »
At one of the last club handgun shoots, one of the guys brought his Beretta 92.  He also has a 96, the 40 version.  When he was making his run you could see live rounds being ejected out of his pistol.  The 9mm bullets would fit in the 96 mag but under recoil the would be Jarred loose and the spring would shoot them out of the mag as the gun fired and they would fly out of the opened slide.  It looked like he was firing in three round bursts but two of the rounds were live. Then the slide would close on the loose round and he could fire again.
If you do get the same gun in a different caliber based on a different case then add a color to the mag.  A red, yellow, or blue sticker makes things easier when your in a rush to get to the range.  The same added to the grip makes things easier when at the range with your friends.  The blue mags go into the blue gun.  I do this when I take customers to the range and add the same color sticker to the ammo box.
I have also seen guys make real expensive 40 brass out of 357 sig.  Most have added color to the 357 sig barrel.  One guy was shooting 9 in his 40.  When it didn't cycle after the first three rounds he looked and realized that it was his 40 P226 not his 9mm P226.  I forget witch one got wood grips the next week, but the mags have a brown sticker on them now.

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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2008, 07:19:15 AM »
my G-23 would cycle with 9mm ammo . got in a hurry and put 2 in a mag . the cases look funny when you pick them up !
the 10 is a nice gun , put off getting one for some time but now i have had one for a couple years and carry it often when out doors and in the truck when in bad parts of town .
another gun/cal. worth looking at the 45 as 400 cor-bon , 45 mag. and several others can be used with a bl change .
one caution with any gun being asked to fire a harder recoiling cart. you may save wear and tear if you up grade the recoil spring . Yes i know many say you don't need to but a little insurance goes a long way .
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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2008, 03:35:26 AM »
Thanks a bunch gentlemen !!.A lot of good info.and tips.
I like the sticker idea very much.I believe that ill take it one step further and put a small mark on the barrel and paint it the same color as the proper mag.My wife likes to shoot and i   don't want to have her make a mistake.She is as careful as i am but,if she needs a gun fast,??.Like i said a LOT of good info,thanks again.pan.

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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2008, 11:32:34 AM »
Why would you want an after Market barrel for the G20. I shot mine with stock barrel 35 yds and put three shots
right in the bulls eye. Thats three out of three shots.

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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2008, 11:40:33 AM »
Because he wants to put all 15 shots in the bullseye!

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Re: 10MM.
« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2008, 08:28:13 AM »
or vary ammo choice
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