Author Topic: Help I got trouble!!! (Read 1205 times)

Hawk89 · « **on:** April 09, 2008, 11:12:17 AM »

Hey well I shoot three in quarter at 100 yards with AA2230. Problem is sometime cannot get gun to open. Primers sticking in pin hole. I have to dry fire to push primer out. Sometime there is hole in primer. Help Help?

Just started shooting great and know this. Starting to get flustered.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** April 09, 2008, 11:21:23 AM »

Wrong frame, using a rifle barrel on a shotgun frame will cause that, is it new or used? Wrong primers, bad primers, too much pin projection, normal is about .035"-.040". Has the hammer been modified? That could cause it also.

Tim

Hawk89 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 09, 2008, 11:24:04 AM »

New .204 I was using CCI primers???

quickdtoo · « **Reply #3 on:** April 09, 2008, 11:30:41 AM »

CCI small rifle? Remove the barrel, cock the hammer, while holding the hammer, pull the trigger and hold the trigger all the way back, while lowering the hammer against the frame, this will push the firing pin out so you can measure the projection.

Tim

http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/primers/primer_chart.htm

Hawk89 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 09, 2008, 11:37:48 AM »

CCI 400 are primers.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #5 on:** April 09, 2008, 11:38:17 AM »

What's your load?

Tim

Hawk89 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 09, 2008, 11:40:36 AM »

Less then MAX 27.5.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #7 on:** April 09, 2008, 11:42:32 AM »

If everything else is ok, the load is too hot, here's AA's data..

Tim

.204 Ruger
Barrel: 24", Twist: 1-12" Primer: WIN WSR Bullet Dia.: .204"
2015 32 SIE BK 23.9 3,490 26.5 3,878 57,300 2.250
2015 39 SIE BK 22.5 3,188 25.0 3,543 59,100 2.260
2230 32 HDY V-MAX 24.7 3,564 27.5 3,960 56,300 2.250
2230 40 HDY V-MAX 23.4 3,270 26.0 3,633 56,300 2.260
2520 32 HDY V-MAX 26.6 3,680 29.5 4,089 59,000 2.250
2520 40 HDY V-MAX 25.2 3,386 28.0 3,762 59,900 2.260

http://www.accuratepowder.com/data/Accurate%20v322%20web%20publication.pdf

Hawk89 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 09, 2008, 11:45:09 AM »

I started at low end without problem. Went up .5 gr per 3 shots. Three last sets had problem. But they started shooting better to.

Hawk89 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 09, 2008, 11:47:26 AM »

No pressure signs on primers or brass.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #10 on:** April 09, 2008, 11:47:44 AM »

How'd the primers look before the trouble? Any cratering?

Tim

http://www.radomski.us/njhp/cart_tech.htm

Hawk89 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 09, 2008, 11:53:41 AM »

All have craters around firing pin hole. None are flattened out look good.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #12 on:** April 09, 2008, 11:58:27 AM »

How's head space? When you put an unfired round in the chamber, is it flush with the chamber face or recessed slightly?

Tim

Hawk89 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 09, 2008, 12:02:27 PM »

Flush looks good

Hawk89 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 09, 2008, 12:08:31 PM »

Did same thing with 32 gr Vmax BCL-2 29.5 loads

quickdtoo · « **Reply #15 on:** April 09, 2008, 12:08:53 PM »

How's the barrel to frame gap when closed on an automotive feeler gauge blade or a couple thicknesses of aluminum foil? See the barrel fitting info in the FAQs on how to check it.

Tim

Hawk89 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 09, 2008, 12:23:51 PM »

sounds like where getting to point to send it back to factory

Hawk89 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 09, 2008, 12:31:33 PM »

Just had great Idea. Went shot factory hornady 40 gr vmax no problems. You know what primers they use?

snapcrackpop · « **Reply #18 on:** April 09, 2008, 12:38:35 PM »

Doubt it's the primers, they can't be that much different.

jwv · « **Reply #19 on:** April 09, 2008, 12:41:08 PM »

Hawk89, If you have any cci Br4 primers try them as they have thicker cups then the regular cci or the WSR primers. I use them with my 204 with a stiff load of Reloader 10x and haven't had any problems.
Good luck, Jack

Hawk89 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 09, 2008, 12:41:27 PM »

Well they are brass color and they didn't crater like CCI.

Hawk89 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 09, 2008, 12:46:13 PM »

Tks Jack

Well good news I shot .75 with 3 shots and 100 yards with heavy wind. I noticed the .204 like heaver loads near max at least with .32 V-MAX using AA2230.
Tried AA 5744 with 15 gr they didn't shoot well at all and left barrel dirty.

NAM70 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 09, 2008, 01:32:47 PM »

Here's a good article regarding primers. I'd suggest a different primer. Dave

http://www.jamescalhoon.com/primers_and_pressure.php

Hawk89 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 09, 2008, 03:38:18 PM »

Has anyone else had issue with primers and NEF .204

Hawk89 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 09, 2008, 03:46:34 PM »

Anyone know what cup thickness on Federal NO. 205??? Just bought 500.

Hawk89 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 10, 2008, 01:27:13 PM »

Emailed federal and this what they said

Same as all others, the difference between 100-200 primers and the 205's is the cup thickness.

I will try with out with MAX in few days.

Hawk89 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 11, 2008, 02:24:33 PM »

Shot Federal 205 primers with no problems...