anybody seen one of these

[PHATINJUN]

I have ate some crow but I'm not sure what I would apoligize for  . By the way that was a Ruger Blackhawk. And I was told it was a 45colt with a .454 squib and a dbl charge. Do not buy a Blackhawk!!!!! They are the most Dangerous hand gun ever produced!!! Kurt

[Hammerspur]

Well, for my part there's an old saw that goes "Never state the obvious."   

[Busta]

I'm not talking about the OBVIOUS design flaw built into the rifle! If you don't get it by now you never will. Blackpowder rifles are a whole different animal than center fires. IMO, the H&R Huntsman is everything that toysoldier said. READ what he wrote!

Only 1296 views since January 2005, might have missed it?
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,54070.msg1098372357.html#new

Just a couple here, you can go back and read the rest.

I agree!!! Whatever Huntsmans Kurt does not want please send to me. I bet that radiologist also does not wear a seatbelt because he knows someone who was in a car and it rolled in a lake (caught on fire, etc. add whatever you want in this part of the story) and his seat belt latch became inoperable and he died. It must be true because the guy it happenned to told him the story himself!!!.

By the way, I have some ocean front property in Arizona for a good deal if that Radiologist is interested (I don't ever want him taking x-rays of me!!!)....<><....  

Seriously though, I have heard that Huntsmans were brought to this planet by extraterrestrials disguised as liberals, or it may have been the other way around, it was a while ago but I did hear it directly from the person who heard it from the guy who knew the guys cousin that it happened to. Anyway, I heard that Huntsmans were brought to this planet to disrupt the private ownership of firearms and enjoyment of the shooting sports in general.  Also, if you use them I have also heard that your hair falls out, you sometimes grow a beard and/or moustache, and you become attractive to younger women, so beware....

I would think that a nipple for musket caps would do wonders for positive ignition on the ML shotguns with push in breechplugs (all H&R ML shotguns may have the push in's, I am not sure of that though). I do have one of my TC Renegades (the .56 smoothbore) outfitted with a musket cap nipple instead of the regular percussion cap nipple and there is MUCH more power and flame upon ignition of the cap. The nipples are all the same except for external width of the nipple so I am positive it would just screw right into the push out breechplug. I think all the push in breechplugs were removable without removing the barrel from the frame. I have heard others voice opinions on that but like the breechplug imbedded in the forehead, extra terrestirial beings, Bigfoot, and pigs that fly, there are those that will forever believe the stories....<><....

[Hammerspur]

I wasn't talking about any flaw, obvious or not, in the rifles/shotguns design.

there are likely a number of them still in circulation, capable of killing at BOTH ends.

You mean like a centerfire might if opened after a hangfire?

[toysoldier]

I don't give a rat's a$$ about receiving an apology. Obviously, I didn't know about later models of the Huntsman-----but I certainly know about the gun I owned.

It was a .45 caliber, with a knock-out breechplug that could be removed when the gun was opened. H&R had simply taken their shotgun frame and put on a muzzleloading barrel. It opened as far as a cartridge-loading gun. There had been no user modifications.

The fouling seemed to come from blowback through the nipple, a recognized phenomenon in sidehammer guns. The gun fouled quickly and badly, with black powder or Pyrodex (the only propellants then available). The fouling caused the gun to pop open when fired. It froze the firing pin. If the pin was out, it caused the gun to fire when closed. If the pin was in, it wouldn't fire. When a percussion gun fails to fire, you replace the cap. That could have killed me, had I experienced a hangfire.

I stand by my assertion that this gun was one of the most dangerous firearms produced in the 20th century. If anyone knows of a more dangerous one, by all means let us know.

BTW, since the article about the breechplug injury likely appeared in something like the American Journal of Radiology during the pre-web era, you're unlikely to find it with a google search.

[PHATINJUN]

Lucky for you you were able to get rid of that one before it Killed ya. I imagine the guy who paid $25 for the gun was more than happy to take it off your hands. Kurt