Author Topic: Cowboy/Western Movies (Read 10289 times)

cowpoke · « **Reply #30 on:** June 25, 2004, 05:21:59 PM »

I guess I was curious if there was any particular reason on technicalities regarding the Wyatt Earp movie by Costner that it didn't make any lists.

Thanks
cowpoke

Ga.windbreak · « **Reply #31 on:** July 11, 2004, 01:04:29 PM »

How about "Will Penny" ? In my mind one of the best, with that said here are my top ten:
10a. Will Penny
10b. One Eyed Jacks
9. Wyatt Earp ( if only for the last scene- "y'all come up and we'll all go together" )
8. The Big Country ( love the gun fight at the end - Chuck Conners was a Daisy )
7. Quickley Down Under ( "You ain't Bill Hickock and this ain't Dodge City") Rich !!
6. The Ox-Bow Incident ( So many future stars in that one-Fonda was great)
5. The CowBoys and
4. The Shootest ( John Wayne got'em right )
3. Unforgiven ( Yes the gun fight was one of the two best ever )
2. Tombstone ( Val Kilmer was to much - A Daisy )
1. Open Range ( Talk about a real Gun fight scene :shock: )

Sundown Holly · « **Reply #32 on:** July 12, 2004, 05:26:11 PM »

Ga.windbreak, I have to agree with you about Open Range. It was VERY good. I saw it twice in the theater and then bought the DVD for it. I would put it right up there at the top of the list. Just behid Lonesome Dove.
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IndianaDean · « **Reply #33 on:** July 13, 2004, 10:44:11 AM »

I agree about OR also. I never got to see all of Lonesome Dove. I was watching it last week, and man was it good! I need to buy it.

As for Long Riders, I used to like it alot. But I am in the middle of reading a real biography on Jesse James and I'm sorry, but there have been no programs I have seen that come even remotely close. JJ was simply a sadistic, evil killer who thought nothing of shooting innocent bystanders, including children.

Noone has pegged him correctly yet on film that I have seen.

Ga.windbreak · « **Reply #34 on:** July 16, 2004, 07:18:03 AM »

Sundown Holly-Thanks for reminding me about Lonesome Dove. I'll put it at 2A. Lonesome Dove
2B. Tombstone
That really says something about Robert Duvall as an actor. The first time I remember seeing RD was in the movie "Bullett". Best Car scene ever but thats for another thread.

Sundown Holly · « **Reply #35 on:** July 17, 2004, 07:27:37 PM »

Ga.windbreak, I don't suppose I could change your view about Lonesome Dove, and I must admit that Open Range was VERY good. I guess maybe we're splitting hairs. I also like your selection of Tombstone. It too was very good. I like Robert Duvall as an actor and I think his portrayal as "Gus McRae" was perhaps his best ever. In the scene where the renegade white men and indians attack him, you'll remember they surprised him and his horse with a shot. The horse started bucking and ole Gus dropped his canteen. Actually, the special effect "gunshot" was supposed to take place and Gus would ride away with the indians chasing him. When the sequence was filmed, however, the "shot" spooked his horse and it started bucking, taking Duvall by surprise. He is such a good rider that he stayed with it for several moments until finally being thrown. The scene looked so good that the director decided to actually use it and so it made it into the movie. In making a western the wranglers will try to match a horse to an actor so as make the actor look good, or even perhaps better than he really is on horseback. When a horse was chosen for Duvall they chose the type of horse that a real old time cowboy would have chosen. Duvall was actually that good.

Ga.windbreak · « **Reply #36 on:** July 17, 2004, 08:05:19 PM »

Sundown Holly- Don't know if you can change my mind but you shore did talk me into watching it again tonight to rereview it in my mind. I had heard that Robert Duvall was a good rider, there was some comment about that on the 2nd disk of Open Range. Also he ( R.D. ) said he had been thrown by a young horse in the movie he made before "OR" and broke a couple of ribs. By that I guess he ment "Gods and Generals". What ever, in my mind, he is one of the very best actors I've known. I can see the Director keeping that scene in as Duvall is very good at thinking on his feet.

nealglen37 · « **Reply #37 on:** July 25, 2004, 12:12:21 PM »

I like all your pics guys but what about

1.Shane
2.My darling clemingtine
3.Once upon a time in the west
4Gunfight at the Ok corral ( burt Lancaster and kirk douglas
5.the man who shot liverty valence
6.Blazing saddles

Thanks

Ruskin · « **Reply #38 on:** June 24, 2005, 09:26:40 AM »

Monte Walsh makes me long for the old west.

nealglen37 · « **Reply #39 on:** June 29, 2005, 09:57:25 AM »

No votes for "Legends of a Fall (Brad Pitt)"....................or "Tom Horn (Steve McQueen)".............

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Turtle · « **Reply #40 on:** June 30, 2005, 03:14:52 AM »

A few more I thought worthy of the the list are Palerider (Clint Eastwood)and Crossfire Trail (Tom Selleck).

jrdudas · « **Reply #41 on:** July 02, 2005, 03:24:30 PM »

I haven't seen a few of the originators 25, but I 've seen most of them.

My personal picks are:

1. Lonesome Dove - the interaction between Call and MaCrae is the best.

2. Tombstone - while Kurt Russell has his critics, I think he did an excellent job and the casting is outstanding. There is no other potrayal of Doc Holiday that holds up to that of Val Kilmer. The Quaid (Randy or Dennis?) portrayal in Wyatt Earp is first rate, but Kilmer still gets my vote.

3. Open Range - Robert Duvall plays the same kind of character as Gus MaCrae, but with more grit. My only complaint is, just how many bullets can you fire with an SA before reloading.

4. Quigley Down Under/The Unforgiven - I can't decide between these two; I like them both for different reasons.

5. The John Wayne, Rooster Cogburn films. One of the best lines ever delivered by our favorite Robert Duvall as Ned Pepper: "Bold talk for a one-eyed fat man".

Many others that I have enjoyed but sometimes can't separate the titles. One film that I found to be historically accurate but a pain to watch is Heaven's Gate. Essentially the story of the Johnson County Wyoming War. The first hour of the film should be on the cutting room floor, it is a total bore and has virtually no bearing on the story being told. And the artsy-fartsy video work and terrible sound track really tire the viewer.

A great thread, thanks.

JR

Hooker · « **Reply #42 on:** July 07, 2005, 04:17:46 PM »

Quote from: jrdudas

5. The John Wayne, Rooster Cogburn films. One of the best lines ever delivered by our favorite Robert Duvall as Ned Pepper: "Bold talk for a one-eyed fat man".

JR

That wasn't a bad line at all< but the best line of the movie was from the Duke. Reins in his teeth Colt in one hand Winchester in the other.
" Fill your hand you son of a b!!!! ". This runs a close second to the best line in any movie let alone a western. Which would be Eastwood in The Outlaw Josey Wales. Where he asks them damn blue bellies " You gonna pull them pistols, or whistle Dixie? "

Pat

williamlayton · « **Reply #43 on:** December 08, 2005, 12:23:09 AM »

I have been critical of Costner's version of Tombstone but have come to regard it on par with the other. I have for a number of reasons but he best reason is for accuracy, which may not be the best reason to watch a movie.
Anywho, I like both very well.
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Georgian · « **Reply #44 on:** March 19, 2006, 04:06:34 PM »

Just about any western with Robert Duvall is top notch. I just watched Lonesome Dove for the first time this weekend; I was more or less just a year or two old when it aired, so I didnt really get it so to speak. I had a hankering to watch it all of a sudden, so I watched a few taped recordings of it, like almost as old as I am, and went out Friday and bought the DVD version. There is just something about it, it takes the watcher on a journey and puts them into the shoes of the characters, and more or less draws you into the story. Definitely one of the best westerns I have ever watched. It tells about hardship, friendship, etc. the whole nine yards. I'd have to say besides that, just about any western with Tom Selleck and Sam Elliot, definitely John Wayne and Eastwood, but none have the same feel Lonesome Dove has.

Duke0313 · « **Reply #45 on:** June 18, 2009, 09:38:30 PM »

Again, I know this is an old thread but I just got here and I LOVE this stuff!
My top 10:
1.- The Searchers...all the elements of a great western. I hated seeing Peacemakers in 1868 Texas, but for John Wayne I can overlook it.
2.- Lonesome Dove...'nuff said about this'n already.
3.- Tombstone...not as historically accurate as Costner's "Wyatt Earp", but alot more exciting to watch!
4.- Open Range...Someone finally reigned in Costner and made a good movie less than 6 hours long!
5.- Rio Bravo...Howard Hawks' "answer" to High Noon.
6.- The Outlaw Josey Wales...Classic Eastwood, without the Italian-Bue-eyed-"Mexicans."
7.- True Grit...Wayne finally wins an Oscar, and deservedly so.
8.- Quigley Down Under...I just like it, so sue me.
9.- Comanche Moon...a darn good Lonesome Dove "prequel."
10.-Unforgiven/ Will Penny...too close to call. Make 'em 10a and 10b.

locutius · « **Reply #46 on:** July 19, 2009, 08:30:43 PM »

What about the "Magnificent Seven" guys, (the western and the Samuri version). And a late era western, but a western still IMHO "Death Hunt". I can still see Charlie Bronson lying on the floor with the shotgun as one of the bad guys forces the door to the hut open. The last words he ever hears is "Welcome" BOOM!

rex6666 · « **Reply #47 on:** July 20, 2009, 07:00:50 AM »

Not as up on my movies as i should be.
anything with John Wayne, Sam Eliot, Clint Eastwood, Robert Duval
fits me.
only own 2 dvds Lonesome Dove and Jeriamia Johnson (Redford was good,
Sam Eliot would have been better.

AtlLaw · « **Reply #48 on:** July 20, 2009, 10:09:09 AM »

Quote from: rex6666 on July 20, 2009, 07:00:50 AM

Sam Eliot,

Uh, it's Elliott there Rex...

Cousin Sam and I are right particular 'bout the spellin of our name...
notice the family 'semblince?

Duke0313 · « **Reply #49 on:** July 20, 2009, 11:43:05 PM »

Mag7 is really good, just not in MY top 10...'though I never miss it when it's on. "Death Hunt" is also a pretty good movie but I don't really consider it a western as it takes place in 1930's Canada. And no offense but I'm really not a Sam Elliott fan.

Elijah Gunn · « **Reply #50 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:31:41 AM »

I only saw it once but I'd like to see the TV miniseries "Centennial" again.

AtlLaw · « **Reply #51 on:** July 22, 2009, 06:47:26 AM »

me 2! I wonder if it's on vidio? $:-\$

j two dogs · « **Reply #52 on:** August 02, 2009, 02:27:37 AM »

Appaloosa. Ok, someone may have already posted about this, came out in 2008. I just got to see it on HBO, last night.
Not since Lonesome Dove, have I appreciated a western so much.
Ed Harris, Vigo Mortenson, Renee Zellwigger, Jeremy Irons.
Not onyly were the characters period correct right down to Renee's drop dead ugly unplucked eyebrows, (Women did not worry about pluckin'there eyebrows back then). To the sound of real black powder blanks, not the smokeless versions you hear most of the time in modern westerns. Also the fact that most shootouts began and ended in about 5 secs., not always the elongated lead slinging you see most of the time. To me it felt as true as what I would picture the old west to be. Awesome movie!

Wyo. Coyote Hunter · « **Reply #53 on:** August 02, 2009, 06:02:36 AM »

After looking at the movies you folks selected, I realized some I have never seen, and others I would like to have on DVD. Do you have a favorite place to purchase old westerns on DVD?

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billy_56081 · « **Reply #54 on:** August 02, 2009, 06:19:47 AM »

True Grit #1 hands down.

Skunk · « **Reply #55 on:** August 02, 2009, 08:28:25 AM »

Quote from: AtlLaw on July 20, 2009, 10:09:09 AM

notice the family 'semblince?

Yes Richard, I do see the family resemblance. But I also see a little family resemblance between you and Willy:

But then, I've also thought that Charlie Daniels was just going around trying to be a Graybeard look-a-like:

Hey, maybe you and GB should start a new tribute band to Willy & Charlie.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #56 on:** August 02, 2009, 10:21:02 AM »

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and High Noon didn t make the list

Whats up with that!! Its a danged conspiracy!

torpedoman · « **Reply #57 on:** August 02, 2009, 03:47:38 PM »

nobody mentioned SHANE shame on you and high noon is in my top ten.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #58 on:** August 02, 2009, 04:07:01 PM »

Yea !! those were the days when men were men and sheep were nervous!

Any list that does not include Shane and High Noon.................well...............well it aint my list!

Duke0313 · « **Reply #59 on:** August 02, 2009, 09:25:48 PM »

SHANE definitely deserves consideration, High Noon makes my stomach turn! Cooper runnin' all over town begging for help...it just ain't...well, "WESTERN!" Watch Howard Hawks' RIO BRAVO and compare the two main characters. Duke's "Sheriff John T. Chance" makes Cooper's "Marshal Will Kane" look like a sissy in short pants!!!