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« on: May 03, 2008, 10:12:02 AM »
Ok, so what does it take to "invent" a new cartridge, get wildcat status and get to name it ?
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2008, 05:08:13 PM »
  simply change any thing on a standard factory round. case length, shoulder position or angle,. Neck it up or down, get a gun chambered for it and a set of dies. Then you have to copy right the name. That's why the 22-250 isn't called "Varminter" . jerry Gebby had the name Varminter copy righted.

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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2008, 11:11:28 AM »
Thats sounds straight forward enough, but it bet tougher then it sounds, and costs a fair bit, having to have dies made.
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2008, 04:24:27 AM »
the toughest part would be finding something that hasn't been done before.

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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2008, 02:21:32 PM »
right, and how would someone who thinks they have a new cartridge go about checking to see someone had beat them to it ?
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2008, 04:06:13 AM »
You can start with a copy of "Cartridges of the World" but even that book won't have all the combinations of possibilities.

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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2008, 05:12:14 AM »
right, and how would someone who thinks they have a new cartridge go about checking to see someone had beat them to it ?
glenn

One of the reloading companies has a list of dies they make for wildcats.

It would be another place to look as Barnes only lists a very few of the wildcats.

P.O. Ackley's books would also list some.
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Re: wildcats?
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2008, 06:00:57 AM »
Glenn,

Here's one such list of wildcats, they also have a data base of cartridges.

http://www.reloadbench.com/cartw.html

http://www.reloadbench.com/main.html

Here's some readin for ya too! ;D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildcat_cartridge

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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2008, 10:07:45 AM »
Check out the CH/4-D die listings.  From the 1940's through the 1960's, CH was the most reasonable at furnishing custom dies and their list is mind boggling.  That and a copy of Ackley's books and your time will be occupied for some months to come.

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Re: wildcats?
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2008, 12:27:21 PM »
Thanks for all the info, guys. it should keep me busy for some time to come. its amazing how deep this handloading can go, lol ..
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2008, 12:28:48 AM »
Glenn,

Here's one such list of wildcats, they also have a data base of cartridges.

http://www.reloadbench.com/cartw.html

http://www.reloadbench.com/main.html

Here's some readin for ya too! ;D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildcat_cartridge

Tim

Tim,

I knew those sites were out there, I could not find them in my favorites.

Thanks for the assist, I will add them again.

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