#4 MK II

[351 power]

just got it home wednesday. went to the range yesterday and gave it a try. although it shot very high, the groups were great. about 2" at 100 yd. with the peep sight. if i remember right a taller front sight should lower my POI

[DCRthe3rd]

yes taller front sight , mine shoots high but what I do is , if you look at the front sight threw the peep , youll see the base is a bit wider , I just lowered my front til I can't see the thicker part and then its dead on for me , not the way peep sights are supposed to work , but mine shoots point of aim that way and I'm fine with it

[Brithunter]

The Enfield's sights are set up for a six o'clock hold so will shoot about 3" high at 100 yards especially as the lowest sight setting is 200 yards.

[351 power]

thanks guys. this is a sporterized rifle with a 22" barrel and a non military ramp. so i'll try some new front posts. maybe even a williams firesight

[Brithunter]

Ah so it's whoever did the conversion set up the sights incorrectly. No4's don't have a ramp sight but an aperture ladder sight on the rear of the action  and depending upon what foresight they used will depend if other heights are available. As you didn't say it was sporterised I assumed  , yeah bad thing to do  , it was still in original trim.

[351 power]

now if i understand correctly, it was rebuilt in '52. with a sporter buttstock. i really like the .303. am getting the reloading dies sometime next week. may set up to cast bullets. took it apart sunday and cleaned the old grease and fir needles out of the fore end. reblued the barrel too. someone varnished the stocks so i might strip them and stain them dark and put on a less shiny finish. the peep sight is great. i saved it from a longbranch i foolishly sold awhile ago. (cr403)
had abit of a time getting the safety timed into the works after cleaning it

[Brithunter]

now if i understand correctly, it was rebuilt in '52. with a sporter buttstock. i really like the .303. am getting the reloading dies sometime next week. may set up to cast bullets. took it apart sunday and cleaned the old grease and fir needles out of the fore end. reblued the barrel too. someone varnished the stocks so i might strip them and stain them dark and put on a less shiny finish. the peep sight is great. i saved it from a longbranch i foolishly sold awhile ago. (cr403)
had abit of a time getting the safety timed into the works after cleaning it

If yours was marked when it was converted to sporting configuration then it's the only one I have heard of like so. A sporting cheek-piece type butt was fitted to Enforcer rifles but these were conversions to 7.62 Nato with a heavy hammer forged barrel for Police sniping use and apart for the butt looked like the L42 British army sniper rifle. This is the most common type of No4 sporting conversion and shows the cheek-piece butt:-





Several companies did ones like including Parker-Hale of Birmingham, the action of this rifle is a 1943 no4Mk1 which was then converted to No4 Mk1/2 during a FTR in 1951 then at some point later it was surplussed off and then converted to it's current configuration with italian Sile woodwork. I have since fitted an A.J. Parker TZ4/47 target aperture sight that I had and had the collapsed recoil pad replaced with a slim solid rubber one off a BSA sporting rifle as I could not find one like it would have had fitted.

[EVOC ONE]

Brithunter:  That is a beautiful rifle.  Very nice.  Thanks for sharing.   

[woodchukhntr]

Last year I picked up a #4 Mk II that was made in 1952.  It has what I believe is a Parker-Hale #4 target rear sight.  There hasn't been an opportunity to see how it really shoots, although I did get 1 opportunity to try it when I first picked it up.

I also have a #4 Mk I that has been sporterized, having a Ram-Line stock and scope.  I was able to find a flush magazine with "England" marked on the bottom and a "Santa Fe" 5-shot magazine that was made in Japan.  Does anybody know about the "England " magazine?

[Brithunter]

Thank you it is however not as nice as some of the Parker-Hale converted ones even though it uses the same wood and has the same very deep blue/black gloss finish. P-H ones normally have the P-H name and address roll marked into the barrel on the top and not just on the fore sight ramp like this one. Oh you cannot see it here but they also drilled and tapped the front ring for P-H scope blocks during the conversion and I have a new set of the mounts on hand.

Possibly Sterling a firm from Essex who did conversions to Lee Enfield's and made magazines. My sporting No4 has one and I also have a spare 5 shot mag for it. The P-H target aperture sight is  5c if memory serves me correctly but different  model 5's by P-H also fitted the P-14/17 and they did one with calibrations for the 7.62 cartridge.

[351 power]

when i first mentioned ramp, i meant the front ramp, to hold the bead. and there are no markings to say anything about the conversion. just a dealer's version of history. maybe not too accurate?

[Brithunter]

Often the fore sight ramp is marked on the side Parker-Hale Birmingham but this only means it's a P-H fore sight ramp that has been fitted P-H began in business making sights of course this was back in shootings hey day and the Volunteer movement and before the carnage of "The Great War" soured many's views on guns and shooting.

[Mikey]

About two years ago I passed on a beautiful Parker-Hale rebuild.  I already have 3 303s, No3 Mk1, and two Mk4 No1s with one made by Savage in '42 and sporterized by Mikey (in 1966).

Anyhow, the reason I passed on it was because a father and his younger son were eyeballin' this rifle.  They had both hefted it and were talking about it but neither knew about the caliber or rifle (I shoulda copped the dang thing and pointed them toward a 308 or something a bit more common) so I had to give it my best sales pitch to make sure the kid started out with a decent piece.  Had to make sure they got the correct caliber ammo, showed them how to load rimmed cartridges into a magazine, showed them how to operate the safety and take the bolt out for cleaning and how to tighten stock bolts, etc.  They were just a bit excited to get out to the range with it and I was hoping to hear how it shot but never saw either of the three again.  I still think I should have bought that thing quick.  Hope the kid got his buck with it.  Mikey.