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Offline wgr

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« on: May 07, 2008, 07:37:23 PM »
what is the main differants between the blackhawk and the super blackhawk
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Re: blackhawk
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2008, 01:30:13 AM »
supers are all 44 mags
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2008, 05:31:55 AM »
Then you get into the likes of the New Model Super Blackhawk  which is printed on the side of my new in Jan of 06 model. The era of the blackhawk is documented well through out the history as can be seen on the web but this New Model seems to be more obscure.
I think that member 2-dogs has explained this but I could be wrong. Perhaps it is just that low, wide hammer spur along with a slight frame difference?
Mine also has that razor sharp square back trigger guard.

Lloyd,
Of all the people on this planet I regret to inform you that I did the sacrilegious act of putting a rubber Hogue mono-grip on that super. I really could not afford a bisley grip at this time and agree that for the overall cost, it may be cheaper to sell mine and purchase another handgun period.
I got that Hogue grip new about a month ago and have only had a couple sessions with it in place. My thoughts are that it is ugly and will not let the revolver roll well like the single actions should but yet is an excellent platform for getting off an accurate shot. The large grip fits my hand well and it absorbs recoil beyond belief. I am thinking of pushing this setup one step farther and scoping this piece for our late season here as longer shots become the norm as those deer have started to yard up.
I did take my 07 deer with that super with the stock grips. Something changed with my technique with it this spring though and it was cutting me with a vengeance like it did when brand new. I had shot this gun regularly all last summer and thought that I had gotten around this but apparently not so.

Have Heart! I still love my Vaquero's and still plan on using them in the reg season. I do agree with what oso45-70 used to tell me, When you go messing with the lines of a fine iron sighted single action, you might as well pickup a Contender or the likes! Nothing wrong with this but it does pain me because of my liking of the Single Actions so much.
Older eye's are also becoming a factor for myself. I am shooting well in the 30 to 75yd range with the open sights but to shoot much farther is becoming more marginal. I do test my long range skills (specially in the month before the hunt) and last fall had shot two different off hand groups of 20 shots per group into 7" and 9" respectively. This is getting kind of iffy for Deer so I may very well implement the use of a scope for myself if shooting at the more extended ranges.
Lot's to consider here and in the end I may just choose to preserve the clean lines of the single action and restrict my hunting range to what my eye's will dictate. My confidence and ability's  have been good enough to leave the long guns at home over the last four years now.

Sorry To Blow This Post And To Try To Write A Book Guy's. An illness has kept me indoors and shut-in a lot more than I would like over the last few months.

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Re: blackhawk
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2008, 12:56:23 AM »
I have to admit the first sixgun i bought new was a 4 5/8s blackhawk 357 and the first thing i did was put pac. grips on it. I wont argue that they feel good in the hand and they work better for recoil for some. But  i just detest the way they look. The square backed supers tear up my hand and those rubber grips will prevent it but i just sold them all and wont  buy another unless its a round trigger guard gun. As to the scoped sixguns ive had a few and traded them off. I still have one conterdor pistol barrel. A 730 waters with a scope and have killed a few deer with it. Im sure like you someday im going to have to go to a scoped sixgun but right now i think that if it gets that bad i might as well go to a scoped levergun. Ive got a pile of leverguns that have never killed anything and someday ill start knocking stuff down with them. I was just talking about this the other day to my buddy. I switched to hunting with open sighted sixguns years ago because it was more of a challange and rifle hunting just didnt make the heart pound like bow hunting. I guess what a guy could do if his eyes got that bad is just get closer. Another alterative would be to carry a lever gun and a handgun for when the right shot came along. As to the rubber grips, i guess id still rather blead then make my gun that ugly. Only exception i make to it is so Da guns just work with them. My comp ppc gun wheres a stock set of fingergrove smith grips made by houge i believe and ive tried many pairs of custom grips on that gun and nothing works like the rubbers
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Re: blackhawk
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2008, 01:42:59 AM »
supers are all 44 mags

  Actually...no!  There have been SBHs, Hunter models, made in .41 magnum and 45 Colt. 

  Aside from that though, the difference between the two models is the chambering on cataloged models and in some the grip frame.  The SBH grip frame is a bit longer than that on the BH.  Also, some SBH's will have the square back trigger gaurd and some unfluted cyliners.  The both utilize the same cylinder frame.
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Re: blackhawk
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2008, 01:13:00 AM »
i think if you look you will see that the 41s and 45s are marked blackhawk not superblackhawk.
supers are all 44 mags

  Actually...no!  There have been SBHs, Hunter models, made in .41 magnum and 45 Colt. 

  Aside from that though, the difference between the two models is the chambering on cataloged models and in some the grip frame.  The SBH grip frame is a bit longer than that on the BH.  Also, some SBH's will have the square back trigger gaurd and some unfluted cyliners.  The both utilize the same cylinder frame.
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Re: blackhawk
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2008, 02:42:34 AM »
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i think if you look you will see that the 41s and 45s are marked blackhawk not superblackhawk.

   I have, I own one, and well, if you look closely you'll see they are indeed marked as Super Blackhawks.;D
   As I mentioned, these are the Hunter models.  They were made in .41 magnum for Davidson's and in 45 Colt for Lipseys.  Both standard and Bisley configurations were made in each chambering.  The .41 was made in greater numbers and a cleanup of parts both put a few more of each into the market.  Still, I understand less than 1000 of each chambering wre produced with the least being the 45 Bisley Hunter with a total of about 279 or so. 
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Re: blackhawk
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2008, 07:43:15 AM »
hell pal it aint the first time I was wrong. thanks for correcting me.
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