Auto Ordinance M-1 Carbine?

[His lordship.]

I had read an article months ago in the American Rifleman magazine about a wartime replica of the M-1 Carbine.  I think it was an Auto Ordinance gun, does anyone have one?  My local gunshop carries them, but otherwise they seem rare to find on the gun show tables,  are they any good in quality?

Thanks.

[Japlmg]

Sure that is not National Ordnance?
National Ordnance assembled M1 Carbines back in the 1960's and 1970's, using new cast steel receivers and surplus GI parts.
Universal Firearms, Iver Johnson, Plainfield and Alpine did the same thing.
Israel manufactures new M1 Carbines (IMI) today, and it is possible Auto Ordnance imports them.
If that is what it is, they are ok shooters, but they will never be collectibles.
Gregg

[Stan in SC]

Auto Ordinance was the maker of the original Thompson sub machine gun.They are now making m-1 carbines and .45 Model 1911 pistols.I have heard varying reports on the carbines.Best do some checking before buying.

Stan

[Oldtimer]

Japlmg, you cleared up something for me that I had been wondering about.  My pastor went to the Holy Land in January and brought back lots of pictures.  There was a picture of lifeguards on the Dead Sea, and it looked like they were carrying M-1 carbines.  I wondered where they would have gotten them.  I bet they never have to tell someone to get out of the pool a second time.   

[Victor3]

Japlmg, you cleared up something for me that I had been wondering about.  My pastor went to the Holy Land in January and brought back lots of pictures.  There was a picture of lifeguards on the Dead Sea, and it looked like they were carrying M-1 carbines.  I wondered where they would have gotten them.  I bet they never have to tell someone to get out of the pool a second time.   

 Where they got them (originally anyway) was from the US govt. I can't remember what years, but we did transfer quite a number of them to Israel.

 A while back I was surprised to see one of our local mortorcycle cops with a folding stock M1 in a scabbard on his bike. Every other motorcycle cop around here has a shotgun. Makes sense though; nearly like a high-capacity 357 magnum rifle performance wise...

[1911crazy]

Since the auto-ordnance company was bought out by Kahr its said there quality has improved.  I took a chance a while back and purchased a new AO army ww2 copy 1911a1 and its the best brand new 1911a1 i have ever purchased.  Right out of the box it cycled and functioned flawlessly.  I wouldn't hesitate to buy anything from them now.

[Double 30]

Wish I could be positive about the Kahr/Auto Ordnance M1 repops , but the one I had( bought it new) came with a magazine that had a small hole rusted through it (reblued too, fed fine though), some rust in the bore, removal left no visable pitting,I've seen the same effect when shooting copper plated steel jackets,and although she functioned fine despite trying different ammo it wouldn't put 3 shots at 50 yards within 6 inches of each other.Not even by accident.One carbine doesn't make a trend, but mine was awful.

[SHOOTALL]

The US sent alot of carbines to Israel along with the tooling to make them . You can buy IMI marked carbines made in Israel , had one a good one a friend got 2 one had a front sight put on crooked . I have heard the same with regard to KAHR  bringing up the quality for AO .

[Japlmg]

Saw a Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine, new in the box at the Orlando gun show today, the price was only $795!
You can buy a nice WWII era GI carbine for that kind of money,
I was not impressed at what I saw, as there were machining marks left on the receiver and trigger guard, and the wood to metal fit was not very good.
Gregg

[jpuke]

I bought one of the AO carbines about two months ago and couldn't be happier.  I've put almost 300 rounds through it and while the first few magazines had a few hangups, it has become very reliable now that I've shot it more.  The mag that came with the gun is the only one that gives me trouble for the first 3-4 rounds, after that it's smooth sailing.  (The great thing about M1 carbines is that the magazines are cheap and plentiful so I picked up a bunch of them)  Wood to metal fit is a bit too loose for my tastes but I've not handled enough of the "genuine" carbines to notice if they're any tighter.  The stock is a pretty nice piece of walnut, I put a few extra coats of Lin-Speed on it and now it's real pretty.  Parkerized finish is nice and the bore cleaned up nicely after a bit of work.  (Seems most guns don't come very clean from the factory anymore, but that's another topic)

The trigger is a bit heavy but if I really try I can keep everything in 6" at 100 yards, 2-3" at 50 yards isn't a problem.  Shot clay pigeons the other day at ranges from 30 to 100 yards and most were hits on the first try - very fun gun!