Author Topic: Bob Barr is Libertarian Candidate For POTUS (Read 6198 times)

alsaqr · « **on:** May 12, 2008, 11:56:31 AM »

Hot off the web.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080512/ap_on_el_pr/barr_presidential_run

torpedoman · « **Reply #1 on:** May 12, 2008, 06:02:12 PM »

I normally vote libertarian this time i was going to write in Paul but to looks like it will be real close so I'm going to have to go with McCain and try to keep[p a gungrabber out of power.

Fazak · « **Reply #2 on:** May 25, 2008, 02:47:49 PM »

Conservatism is being strangled out of the American political scene,.. even though I think that a large percentage of Americans still harbor a fundamentally conservative attitude.

At some point, American conservatives are going to have to start thinking long term.

Allowing someone who is as far left as McCain to take the reins of the party which represents the primary venue for conservative politics in America is surrender. It's the end of conservatism in the Republican party.

As far as that goes,.. I don't really care all that much,... a political party is a political party. But when the Republican party turns it's back on conservatism, I'll look to whichever party still represents it.

This election cycle, it's the Libertarian party that's carrying the conservative banner,.. so that's where my vote will be going.

Fazak · « **Reply #3 on:** May 25, 2008, 03:02:26 PM »

http://www.nrawinningteam.com/barr.html

Bob serves the people of Georgia's Seventh District in the United States House of Representatives. He was elected in November 1994 and re-elected in 1996. Bob served previously with the CIA and as the United States Attorney for the Northern District of Georgia. Bob was a member of the historic class of 73 freshman Republicans elected in 1994, and was chosen by Speaker Gingrich to Chair the Firearms Legislation Task Force. Bob was the sponsor of the bill to repeal the Clinton gun ban which passed the House in 1996. Bob has been named the American Shooting Sports Council's "1997 Congressional Leader of the Year" and "1997 Gun Rights Legislator of the Year" by the Citizens Committee For the Right To Keep and Bear Arms. Bob continues to fight for individual rights against encroachment by the Federal government, and there is no stronger defender of the Second Amendment in Congress.

Rep. Barr was re-elected to the NRA Board of Directors in 2001 for a 3 year term.

magooch · « **Reply #4 on:** May 26, 2008, 04:26:02 AM »

If I thought Bob Barr had any chance of being elected, I just might vote for him. Since that is not the case, a vote for Bob is a vote that John McGore won't get and that would only bolster Osama Obamination's chance of being elected. No amount of rationalizing could allow my conscience to live with that.

BBF · « **Reply #5 on:** May 26, 2008, 04:49:20 AM »

I just got to ask.

With all these electronic voting gizmos being used in a lot of places, HOW do you put in a "write-in-candidate" ??

gypsyman · « **Reply #6 on:** May 26, 2008, 04:59:41 AM »

Since the field of candidates has narrowed to what it is, if I thought Barr or Paul had half a chance, I'ld vote for either one of them. But knowing that a bunch of idiots are going to vote for Obama, just because he's black, or Hilary because she's a women, I guess I have to vote for McCain, and hope he picks a good VP to even out his liberalism. gypsyman

jhm · « **Reply #7 on:** May 26, 2008, 05:03:34 AM »

45-70 I also dont know the answer to that, however as much as I dont like any of the 3 running I will vote for McCain, any vote otherwise write in or green party / libertarien / etc. is like giving Hillery or Obama a vote, It is TOO late in the process to start looking elsewhere for someone to run. JIM

oldandslow · « **Reply #8 on:** May 26, 2008, 06:30:04 AM »

Bob Barr has about as much chance of winning the presidency as one of us on this forum does. If he had a decent chance I would vote for him in a heartbeat. Since he doesn't I will vote for McCain. Already did in fact in the primary. No way will I waste my vote and help what the democratic party is offering us get elected. Sure would be nice to vote FOR a candidate instead of voting AGAINST one all the time.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #9 on:** May 26, 2008, 07:08:41 AM »

I miss Ronnie.....

Fazak · « **Reply #10 on:** May 26, 2008, 07:41:52 AM »

See John? I told you that Republicans would
vote for you regardless. Now we need to get to
work on that amnesty bill and shutting down
the gunshows.

nw_hunter · « **Reply #11 on:** May 27, 2008, 04:12:54 AM »

Fazak, you are wasting your time and energy trying to convince someone not to vote for the lesser of two evils

They have convinced themselves there is a difference! Evil is just that! Evil. There is no lesser.
You and I know that unless we (the voters) get with the program and tell ALL these phonies we have had enough........Nothing will change. I know that John McCain is just as big a liberal as Obama and Clinton. He will do nothing to protect our gun owners rights, and will allow the Illegals from Mexico to continue to swarm us, and this is a fact!

When I go to the polls this election year, I know I will not be voting for one of these three monkeys!
I will write in Rep. Ron Paul,or vote for Bob Barr (a real conservative) and don't tell me that is giving the vote to the Demo's. Since when has the Republican party served the conservative agenda? The leaders at the top level of the GOP are just as corrupt as the Democrats in DC, and that is a fact. I have voted the Republican ticket all my voting age years, and like Pat Buchanan, I feel the party has left me. Not the other way around.

Dee · « **Reply #12 on:** May 27, 2008, 06:23:55 AM »

Quote from: nw_hunter on May 27, 2008, 04:12:54 AM

Fazak, you are wasting your time and energy trying to convince someone not to vote for the lesser of two evils

They have convinced themselves there is a difference! Evil is just that! Evil. There is no lesser.
You and I know that unless we (the voters) get with the program and tell ALL these phonies we have had enough........Nothing will change. I know that John McCain is just as big a liberal as Obama and Clinton. He will do nothing to protect our gun owners rights, and will allow the Illegals from Mexico to continue to swarm us, and this is a fact!

When I go to the polls this election year, I know I will not be voting for one of these three monkeys!
I will write in Rep. Ron Paul,or vote for Bob Barr (a real conservative) and don't tell me that is giving the vote to the Demo's. Since when has the Republican party served the conservative agenda? The leaders at the top level of the GOP are just as corrupt as the Democrats in DC, and that is a fact. I have voted the Republican ticket all my voting age years, and like Pat Buchanan, I feel the party has left me. Not the other way around.

I agree with both of you on this issue of LESSOR OF TWO EVILS

. I will let my signature speak the rest of my thought.

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 28, 2008, 06:09:05 AM »

Quote from: Dee on May 27, 2008, 06:23:55 AM

Quote from: nw_hunter on May 27, 2008, 04:12:54 AM
Fazak, you are wasting your time and energy trying to convince someone not to vote for the lesser of two evils

They have convinced themselves there is a difference! Evil is just that! Evil. There is no lesser.
You and I know that unless we (the voters) get with the program and tell ALL these phonies we have had enough........Nothing will change. I know that John McCain is just as big a liberal as Obama and Clinton. He will do nothing to protect our gun owners rights, and will allow the Illegals from Mexico to continue to swarm us, and this is a fact!

When I go to the polls this election year, I know I will not be voting for one of these three monkeys!
I will write in Rep. Ron Paul,or vote for Bob Barr (a real conservative) and don't tell me that is giving the vote to the Demo's. Since when has the Republican party served the conservative agenda? The leaders at the top level of the GOP are just as corrupt as the Democrats in DC, and that is a fact. I have voted the Republican ticket all my voting age years, and like Pat Buchanan, I feel the party has left me. Not the other way around.

I agree with both of you on this issue of LESSOR OF TWO EVILS . I will let my signature speak the rest of my thought.

X2 guys. A wasted vote to me is voting for someone I can't stand because the opposition is even worse.

Dee · « **Reply #14 on:** May 29, 2008, 04:27:33 PM »

Quote from: Doublebass73 on May 28, 2008, 06:09:05 AM

Quote from: Dee on May 27, 2008, 06:23:55 AM
Quote from: nw_hunter on May 27, 2008, 04:12:54 AM
Fazak, you are wasting your time and energy trying to convince someone not to vote for the lesser of two evils

They have convinced themselves there is a difference! Evil is just that! Evil. There is no lesser.
You and I know that unless we (the voters) get with the program and tell ALL these phonies we have had enough........Nothing will change. I know that John McCain is just as big a liberal as Obama and Clinton. He will do nothing to protect our gun owners rights, and will allow the Illegals from Mexico to continue to swarm us, and this is a fact!

When I go to the polls this election year, I know I will not be voting for one of these three monkeys!
I will write in Rep. Ron Paul,or vote for Bob Barr (a real conservative) and don't tell me that is giving the vote to the Demo's. Since when has the Republican party served the conservative agenda? The leaders at the top level of the GOP are just as corrupt as the Democrats in DC, and that is a fact. I have voted the Republican ticket all my voting age years, and like Pat Buchanan, I feel the party has left me. Not the other way around.

I agree with both of you on this issue of LESSOR OF TWO EVILS . I will let my signature speak the rest of my thought.

X2 guys. A wasted vote to me is voting for someone I can't stand because the opposition is even worse.

To you it is a wasted vote. To me it is a vote of moral principal that I try to live by, and have recently decided that I was falling short on my moral principle by voting the lessor of two evils. I'm not voting for a looser that is alleged to be slightly less of looser than his opponent.
There's not a nickels worth of difference between all three of the business as usual candidates. Their all three liars and thieves. JMO

powderman · « **Reply #15 on:** May 29, 2008, 04:28:16 PM »

A vote for Mccain is a vote for Mccain. A vote for anyone else is a vote for osama obama. Make your vote count, don't throw it away. POWDERMAN.

Dee · « **Reply #16 on:** May 29, 2008, 04:32:42 PM »

I'm not throwing my vote away. I'm voting for the best qualified man. McCain, Obama, and Hillary are not that man. They are the lessor of two evils. A vote for evil is a wasted vote.

powderman · « **Reply #17 on:** May 30, 2008, 03:33:56 AM »

DEE. Why bother going to the polls to vote for someone you know has no chance to win??? Mccain wasn't my first choice either, but he's way ahead of the other 2. Use your vote where it will count for something, doing otherwise supports the black muslim candidate. POWDERMAN.

AtlLaw · « **Reply #18 on:** May 30, 2008, 09:30:19 AM »

this same situation got us 8 years of Clinton...

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #19 on:** May 30, 2008, 10:13:50 AM »

I'd rather have a moderate like McCain than a far left looney. Barr is a good man. If he was the Rep canditate, I'd vote for him. Do you really want socialized medicine, oil industry, etc? The further we go down the path of socialism, the more like European contries we become. Then it is just a short step further to a command economy like the Soviet Union. McCains voting record is 80% conservative. Clinton's is 80% liberal, Obama's is 100% liberal. Which do you prefer? Socialism stiffles invention and inovation.

DakotaElkSlayer · « **Reply #20 on:** June 01, 2008, 07:06:52 AM »

Quote from: powderman on May 30, 2008, 03:33:56 AM

Use your vote where it will count for something, doing otherwise supports the black muslim candidate. POWDERMAN.

Ummm....their is a Muslim candidate? Please enlighten me with your information on this!

Jim

powderman · « **Reply #21 on:** June 01, 2008, 10:35:17 AM »

Obama was raised muslim, I believe he still is. POWDERMAN.

Dee · « **Reply #22 on:** June 02, 2008, 03:24:05 AM »

You guys kill me. Do you really believe McCain is not socialist? He is for everything the other two are for EXCEPT, pulling out of Iraq. You tell ME, I waste my vote when you recognize that if Barr was running Republican you'd vote for him, because he is the best candidate? You guys are ignoring the best candidate, and voting for a liberal in a republican suit. The Republicans and Democrats have you in the box they want you in, and you can't get out. You hold on to hope that is not there. McCain is as big a looser as the other two.

If two of the candidates were pedophiles, and one was a rapist, would you vote for the rapist. Same logic. If you did, then you would find yourself sitting next to the rapist declaring yourself the winner.

Voting for Barr, or even Paul, if you win, or loose, your sitting next to a winner. I'll back the one that's right, win or loose. Always have, and always will.

When someone like Barr, or Paul takes a stand for the Consitution and Bill of Rights, Americans should stand with them, instead of voting for the rapist (metaphorically speaking). Why don't you guys get out of the box you have been put in, and take a chance on a good man for a change, instead of the lessor of three evils. Settling for less, is why we are where we are. If we continue to vote, same ole, same ole, that is what we'll get, and that's what we're getting.

If you always do, what you've always done, you'll always get, what you've always got! And that's a fact.

Evil triumphs, when good men do nothing. Voting for evil, lessor or greater, is doing nothing. Your voting message to Washington, is that your willing to accept less, and that is what your going to get. I ain't drinkin the coolaide, I"m voting for honesty.
When enough people get enough courage to crawl out of their designated box and vote for what is right, instead of the lessor of, then this country will get back on track. Until then, you guys are just two seperate groups of lemmings headed down slightly different paths (short paths at that) with the same destination.
Your vote isn't being heard. Your vote is being herded. The only choice you guys have limited yourselves to by voting Democrat or Republican, is the person's name.

powderman · « **Reply #23 on:** June 02, 2008, 04:09:41 AM »

DEE. Mccains record on the 2nd is pretty good, the 2 dumcraps are both gun grabbers. Mccain knows that gay marriage is evil, the other 2 embrace it. I'm not a big Mccain fan either but he's miles ahead of the other 2 and has a chance to win. Obama will get the dumcrap nod, your vote will count for him, not Mccain. Voting 3rd party makes as much sense as betting all your money on pee wee herman to be the next heavyweight champion of the world. I want my vote to count, make yours count too. Charlie.

Dee · « **Reply #24 on:** June 02, 2008, 04:48:41 AM »

We can agree to disagree then. I believe that you are the one throwing your vote away. You are doing exactly what the politicians know, and want you to do. Do what's right, and vote for right, instead of the lessor, for a change.
Throw the dog a bone, and he'll follow you home. That's their theology, and it obviously works. The tendency of voting for the lessor, has been documented, and is obviously getting worse, and worse, as proven by the candidates getting farther and farther to the left, whether they be Republican or Democrat.
Your belief is not working, as quality in candidates continues to spiral downward. If your still in the fight, and have made no headway in quite some time, one should change strategy rather, than continue the fight, just for the sake of fighting.
You and others are gradually loosing your rights because you cannot accept the fact that you have fallen for the propaganda of voting two party only.
I remember not too many years ago in Minnesota, two gubernatorial candidates making fun of, and dismissing a third party candidate as foolish vote wasting. I wonder if either were present when he was sworn into the Governorship?
No doubt either a Republican or a Democrat will win this race. However, I will not be responsible for either looser winning, because I won't vote for either. That you say I am wasting my vote is your OPINION, just as mine is, that you are the one wasting not only a vote, but an opportunity. I will vote for honesty, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. Win, loose or draw, I voted for what was right!
Flip a coin powderman, and vote heads or tails. Either way you get a looser.

By the way! In 15 votes concerning 2nd Amendment Rights, McCain voted favorably FOUR TIMES! "Twenty seven percent favorable", doesn't seem too favorable to me. To think it is, would classify one as delousional.

The NRA has blasted him for doing anti-gun commercials with a radical anti-gun group, and are very concerned about his deceptions, and the Gun Owners of America rate him an F-.

powderman · « **Reply #25 on:** June 02, 2008, 06:53:40 AM »

DEE. The NRA just finished their convention here in LOU, they welcomed Mccain with open arms, he was a speaker and did well. I was not aware of his full record, only that he was given the ok by the NRA. The only man running against obama with a chance to win is Mccain. If you vote a 3rd party that is a vote that Mccain doesn't get, which of course benefits obama. A local sheriffs election her was decided by one vote, ONE vote. Your vote for a 3rd party is useless, think about it. Charlie.

powderman · « **Reply #26 on:** June 02, 2008, 08:34:54 AM »

DEE. I'm all for a 3rd party, but there hasn't been a serious candidate since Ross Perot. I was going to vote for him and he was way ahead of both major parties when he dropped out. There hasn't been a candidate since that was serious about running. They can't just announce right before an election and expect to win, they are not expecting to win. They are just spoilers with and undeclared agenda. I don't know what it is myself, other than to keep certain others from getting votes. A viable 3rd party would have to campaign like the others have, but they don't. A lack of money?? I don't know, could be. If thats the case maybe theres a better way to do things. I reckon we'll just have to disagree on this but I hate seeing you waste your vote. Charlie.

ironglow · « **Reply #27 on:** June 02, 2008, 11:27:58 AM »

Bob Barr..He's a good one..I believe he is only running Libertarian because that is all that is open. His politics is Cultural Conservative...
He is using this method of getting exposure ..so he can be ready for 2012 !

I wish he had thrown his hat into the ring at the "Get go". I would have gladly voted for him..and backed him . Now however, the "best" he can do is to
get the closet Muslim elected..
If he (an I) are around in 2012, and he's running..I will probably back him !

oldandslow · « **Reply #28 on:** June 02, 2008, 12:37:21 PM »

When President Obama proposes raising taxes, anti-gun legislation, and various other socialist legislation all you that voted third party don't bellyache about it. You had your chance in November. I'm done with this.

Dee · « **Reply #29 on:** June 06, 2008, 11:03:48 AM »

When President McCain, continues to REFUSE to close the borders, gives amnesty to all the illegals, continues to give billions of dollars to countries such as Pakistan, puts into effect the McCain-Feingold Act, raises your taxes, continues to back gun grabbing bills 73% of the time, continues to reach across the isle to his Democratic buddies, continues to help them (the Democrats) quash freedom of speech via putting restrictions conservative talk radio, closes Guantanamo Bay, outlaws water boarding our enemies to get information, closes all prisoner of war camps, and on and on, then I will know whom to blame.
I do not vote lessor of two evils any more. I will not vote for a boat that has so many holes in it, it has know chance of floating. If you guys want to hold your nose and vote, then by all means please do so. I will not. I will vote for the Constitution, and Bill of Rights, and McCain AIN'T IT. You guys can hold your nose and vote for your guy. I will vote for what is right. I consider YOUR votes FOR McCain the waste of a vote. He can't even rally the REPUBLICAN party to get behind him.
The reason Mr. Barr cannot win, is because EVERYONE, but a few are afraid to get out of their designated box.
No one's blaming this one on me. I picked a winner when this thing started with Ron Paul. Everyone else (almost everyone else) hopped from candidate to candidate as they fell out of the race one at a time. I stayed with Paul and never wavered. Paul was an opportunity MISSED, by candidate hopping folks whom can't see out of their box.
When the framers of this country declared their own freedom, they were not betting on a sure thing. To loose was to die. They took a chance on the dark horse (freedom) because it was the best horse.
You guys are looking for the easy way out, and think you've found it in McCain. YOUR candidates CONTINUE to get worse year after year, and this year is no different. When you find yourself in a hole, stop diggin. You guys just keep diggin, but not to worry, you have plenty of help. Good luck but I'm out on McCain, and do not agree with your strategy.