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New H&R Ultra with ULTRAGON RIFLING Release. Maybe !
« on: May 17, 2008, 12:28:55 PM »
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Well this is one I wish I had good news . I can only hope that my information is in error. With the change of ownership and administrative focus don't hold your breath to see these readily being on the market even this year. A call to H&R lead me to understand that these are not even in the pipeline for production yet.-Read priorities of new owners.- (Sort of reminds you of Ruger and their announcements and time of a new product to market.) Check out the downsizing. http://www.hr1871.com/News/pressreleases.aspx#plan

I am sure it will happen within a year or two but at a substantially higher price and with design changes ala REMINGTON.

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Re: New H&R Ultra with ULTRAGON RIFLING Release. Maybe !
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2008, 12:44:56 PM »
The new Ultras are available, SSI has the  SB1-S24 Ultra Light Slug Hunter 20ga in stock, at least one member has one on order from Walmart, whether they'll have the "UG" rifling is another matter tho. The Remington deal is old news, see the Remington Consolidation Plan sticky, there are some important updates on it, like the $4.2M that's being invested in the Ilion NY plant.

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Re: New H&R Ultra with ULTRAGON RIFLING Release. Maybe !
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2008, 01:09:40 PM »
and according to an insider at H&R (2 actually), to date about five, that's correct, FIVE, aka "5", employees will be moving from the Gardner location to NY. I know we all wish the best to all of the other displaced loyal employees....<><.... :)
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Re: New H&R Ultra with ULTRAGON RIFLING Release. Maybe !
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2008, 02:47:21 PM »
The new Ultras are available, SSI has the  SB1-S24 Ultra Light Slug Hunter 20ga in stock, at least one member has one on order from Walmart, whether they'll have the "UG" rifling is another matter tho. The Remington deal is old news, see the Remington Consolidation Plan sticky, there are some important updates on it, like the $4.2M that's being invested in the Ilion NY plant.

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The investments are fine. The amount is really minimal when you are talking production and tooling upgrade. Start at 10 to 15 times that number and you really have my attention.

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Re: New H&R Ultra with ULTRAGON RIFLING Release. Maybe !
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2008, 02:51:01 PM »
Compared to what's been done for the Gardner plant, it's huge!! :-\

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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2008, 04:35:49 PM »
  You are right. Everything is relative !

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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2008, 04:58:51 PM »
I saw Sports South had them in stock last wed I called the factory and was told yes they are realeasing some and slowly shipping them (20ga) and they do have the Ultragon rifling so I went to walmart and ordered one $184 out the door should be able to pick up first part of the week. The one I got is  SB1-S24 Ultra Light Slug Hunter 20ga. Another member here already has one also. Kurt
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2008, 05:04:51 PM »
lets get some reports up about how well they shoot!!! Also how they compare to (hopefully equal at least) the old USH's....<><....:)
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2008, 05:11:08 PM »
Unfortunatly Andy even if mine is here this week I probly will not get to do any testing on it til mid June. But I will get'er done asap. Kurt
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Re: New H&R Ultra with ULTRAGON RIFLING Release. Maybe !
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2008, 01:25:39 AM »
Thanks Kurt, at least a visual report will be good, whats the ultragon rifling look like and all....<><....:)
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2008, 03:53:08 AM »
That I can do . Kurt
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Re: New H&R Ultra with ULTRAGON RIFLING Release. Maybe !
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2008, 11:07:58 AM »
I saw Sports South had them in stock last wed I called the factory and was told yes they are realeasing some and slowly shipping them (20ga) and they do have the Ultragon rifling so I went to walmart and ordered one $184 out the door should be able to pick up first part of the week. The one I got is  SB1-S24 Ultra Light Slug Hunter 20ga. Another member here already has one also. Kurt

Are the barrels marked "Ultragon rifling ?

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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2008, 01:08:40 PM »
I do not know yet as I had to order it .But I asked the ? about 4 differant ways to make sure we were talking about the Ultragon rifling and not just a Tracker with scope mount . She had to do some checking to verify and assured me they were 20ga with the new rifling and they are in production and slowly being released.Also the guy at Walmart had to call the Corp office to get the proper SKU# so that he could order it from Sports South and SS say's they are in stock.Hopefully they will call me Monday and I can do the paper work and pick it up on tuesday I got to go by Illinois (ain't got a clue) laws.  Kurt
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Re: New H&R Ultra with ULTRAGON RIFLING Release. Maybe !
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2008, 05:17:43 AM »
Definetly looking foreward to the range report.
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Re: New H&R Ultra with ULTRAGON RIFLING Release. Maybe !
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2008, 03:07:52 AM »
I do not know yet as I had to order it .But I asked the ? about 4 differant ways to make sure we were talking about the Ultragon rifling and not just a Tracker with scope mount . She had to do some checking to verify and assured me they were 20ga with the new rifling and they are in production and slowly being released.Also the guy at Walmart had to call the Corp office to get the proper SKU# so that he could order it from Sports South and SS say's they are in stock.Hopefully they will call me Monday and I can do the paper work and pick it up on tuesday I got to go by Illinois (ain't got a clue) laws.  Kurt

         Keep us posted. My sources say that NO "Ultragon barrels" have been shipped or made up as of this date. Curious to see if you really do get one.

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Re: New H&R Ultra with ULTRAGON RIFLING Release. Maybe !
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2008, 03:30:39 AM »
Are any of your"sources" from the factory ?
H&R 1871 INC                 Ultra Light Single Shot Shotgun       H&R 20 Ga Slug Hunter/24" Rifled Barrel/3" Chamber/Walnut Stock   Available in 12 and 20 gauge, H&R's Ultra Light Slug Hunter weighs in at amere 5 1/2 lbs, has a 24" Ultragon rifled barrel for enhanced accuracy, aMonte Carlo stock and a Weaver style scope base. With this many featuresbeing called a lightweight is an honor.   SPECIFICATIONS:Mfg Item Num:       SB1S24      Category:           FIREARMS - SHOTGUNS           Action              :Break Open Action (Single Shot)Gauge               :20 GABarrel Length       :24"Capacity            :1Chamber             :3"Length              :40"Weight              :5 1/4 lbsDrop                :1 1/2" @ Comb  &  2" @ HeelStock               :WalnutFinish              :Blue   Related Items: SSI#   MFG#      DESCRIPTION-----------------------------------------------------------------------52899   SB1S14         H&R SB1-S14 ULTRA LGHT 12 3IN 24RB WAL52900   SB1S24         H&R SB1-S24 ULTRA LGHT 20 3IN 24RB WAL

I only have 3 sources the factory and they said they have gone to the production floor and the 20's are being released slowly.
The distributor who did not have it in stock before and now has guns in stock. It might be intresting to note they do not show any Tracker II in stock. And Walmart who I ordered the gun from I was standing in front of the guy when he called to see if they were in stock and they will not order any guns not in stock plus he had to call corperate to get the new SKU#. I have been following this gun from the factory since December 2007 and have talked to the factory reps 6 times by phone personally . Those are the facts and I will be very disapointed if it don't happen.I think it's a go. Now I am not talking about the heavy BBL's or the 12ga just the ULSH 20ga . That's my story and I'm stickin to it. Kurt
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Re: New H&R Ultra with ULTRAGON RIFLING Release. Maybe !
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2008, 10:24:24 PM »
Did ya git it yet????

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Re: New H&R Ultra with ULTRAGON RIFLING Release. Maybe !
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2008, 12:54:23 PM »
No and they will probly call while I'm out in OK blastin PDogs :( Kurt
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Re: New H&R Ultra with ULTRAGON RIFLING Release. Maybe !
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2008, 11:48:34 AM »
My local gun dealer says he still cant get them yet!!!!