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Range report on first reloads
« on: May 25, 2008, 06:07:16 AM »
Yesterday, my youngest son and I spent 2 1/2 hours at the range trying out my first batch of "home rolled".  For the 686 I had loaded 25 shells with 2400 and 158gn Gold Dots and 25 with H110 and 158gn Unicore JSP's. For the X-frame .460 I had loaded 20 reduce recoil loads with 2400 and 250gn XTP's and 20 hunting loads with H110 and 240gn XTPMags. I also took plenty of factory loads for each to compare, i.e. 125gn Remington JHP's for the .357 and 200gn SST Hornady's for the .460. All in all we put about 200 rounds thru the revolvers.  In between shooting the bigger guns, we shot up half a brick of .22's outta his Buckmark while we waited for the barrels to cool on the Smiths.

To put it mildly, I was impressed with my loads. The .357's performed well and all went boom when we pulled the trigger. Recoil compared to the factory loads was a little less, but considering they were at the starting end of the load tables I kinda expected that. Accuracy was good with all the loads, but seemed more consistent with the handloads. But then again, the 686 seems to shoot anything I feed her well. Extraction of the reloads was identical to factory loads with no signs of excessive pressure on spent cases. Matter of fact, the primers on the factory loads were flattened more than on my loads. The factory 125's shot the dirtiest of all, but even so we got dang good at hittin' clay pigeons set up at 50 yards.(we would then pick away at the pieces with the buckmark)

The .460's shot well also. There was little if any noticeable difference in recoil between my two different handloadings, even tho the one was a "reduced recoil load". Both recoiled less and had much less muzzle blast than the factory loaded Hornady's. Accuracy of the handloads  was good with groups at 50 yards within' 4 inches(shootin' off bags), both handloads shot about the same, but the factory loads shot about 6 inches lower(?). Extraction was a little sticky for my reloads compared to factory, but again no other signs of excessive pressure with factory primers flattened more than my reloads. Another reloader at the range said I may have had my carbide sizer die set too high and left a shoulder at the base of the case. He looked at my cases and watched us shoot and said he didn't think it was a pressure issue.

The range we shoot at has a backstop  berm made of washed river sand. We sometimes take a rake along to find what our bullets look like after we shoot. It was interesting to see the difference on the expansion of the different types of bullets. While the 125JHPs opened up wildly and lost their lead core, both the Gold Dots and the Unicore SP's had mushroomed uniformly and held together for the most part. There was much more difference in the .460s. While the 240gn XTPMags and the 250gn XTPs mushroomed similarly the 250 XTPs generally lost their lead core. When it came to the 200gn SSTs, there wasn't much to find. Basically what was left was the little red plastic tip and a piece of flattened copper foil about the size of a silver dollar. While all the other shells still had a resemblance to a handgun bullet, the SSTs were basically a thin flat sheet of copper. I know a sand berm is no ballistics/penetration test, but I know I would never recommend the SSTs as a hunting round except for varmints and will stick to either the 240 or 300 grain XTPMAG's for my own hunting use. The rest of the box of regular XTP's I'll burn up at the range.

Thanks again guys for helping me get started....
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Re: Range report on first reloads
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2008, 11:52:32 AM »
As was said on TV , You did good Grasshopper , sounds like your on the right track with both guns and got to do some father / son bonding in the process .  ;)

Just remember to keep an eye on the H110 data ( it can be a bit picky ) and have fun with the new hobby , if you run into any problems , just ask .

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Re: Range report on first reloads
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2008, 12:22:36 PM »
nice job, i remember feeling the same my first time out with only reloads, and sitting behind a bench when pulling the string that i used to trip the trigger on my first reload...lol...i promised i would not tell that story but there it is...

my cousin brought over all this stuff to my house and we assembled reloads for his .22-250 but when we set it up neither of us felt comfy with shooting it yet, and he read in some book that you should take the hottest load you had created and string-fire it from cover, and if it didn't destroy your rifle, then the rest are likely to be ok as well....

looking back on it, its hilarious, as we followed data to the letter but were still scared that first time.

years later, here i sit, with a lot more experience and thinking "maybe that comment he read in the book was a sarcastic joke by the authoe that we both totally missed."

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Re: Range report on first reloads
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2008, 03:58:42 AM »
nice job, i remember feeling the same my first time out with only reloads, and sitting behind a bench when pulling the string that i used to trip the trigger on my first reload...lol...i promised i would not tell that story but there it is...



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LOL....My first shot with my reloads in the .460 I had my son get behind me about 20 yards. Kinda like when I shot the gun for the very first time....and again I ended up with a big-azz grin on my face. Don't know why, but shooting the X-frame is like gettin' a shot of adrenaline every time I shoot it. Seth says it's cause the concussion that surrounds the gun when fired jump starts your heart.

The advice and suggestions given here was a great confidence booster and helped with many of the doubts and fears I had about reloading. The little things like checkin' for proper crimp on the last shell in the cylinder(they all stayed tight), keeping records and thoroughly marking everything are things I may have never thought of until much farther down the road. I came home and went straight to my bench and began makin' more ammo up for next time.
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Re: Range report on first reloads
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2008, 04:24:52 AM »
it's addicting and a hell of a lot of fun...get ready for the reactions when people ask about it though, a lot of people don't handload and don't even know you can.

people react strangely to finding out that you "make your own" ammo...

some seem to think you're a crazy SOB bound to blow your arm off, or that you're doing something weird or illegal, some think you're a scientist, like it's some highly technical thing. the ones that make me laugh are the people who ask about it and then react like i am a voodoo witchdoctor, like there is some black art to this.

i try real hard to show them i am just a redneck with a press, but.....


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Re: Range report on first reloads
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2008, 05:01:14 AM »
 After 40+ years of stuffing my own I just came to try out those expander dies(straight wall case) that allows you to dump the powder thru the top right into the case.

After the third time I dumped the powder into the die    w i t h o u t  having the case up into the die and having a bunch of powder all over the press and floor I figured it is time to go back to  my old and normal way of doing things.

btw. Trail Boss does stick in those type of dies and makes room for some serious consequences.
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