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Fletching or rubber vanes on arrows
« on: May 27, 2008, 01:25:44 PM »
 Hi everybody new to the forum and new to traditional archery also. I own a 55# Viper longbow by Internature and I was wondering if it is better to use the fletched arrows or the rubber vaned arrows or if it matters at all. So far I have been using the fletched arrows and they seem to work just fine ,but it is easier to find the vaned arrows in my area. Thanks in advance for the help.

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Re: Fletching or rubber vanes on arrows
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2008, 02:04:48 AM »
When you say "fletched" if you mean feathers, compared to plastic vanes, I believe you will find feather fletched arrows typically perform better than arrows with plastic vane fletching off the rest setup of most traditional bows. This is especially true if you are shooting off the shelf.

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Re: Fletching or rubber vanes on arrows
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2008, 06:14:17 PM »
Sorry ,I did mean feather fletched.  I do shoot off the shelf so I guess I will stick to the feathers. Thanks for the input sidekick.

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Re: Fletching or rubber vanes on arrows
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2008, 05:14:15 PM »
Hello there,

Pardon me, I'm new here.

And Im new to archery.

Sidekick, what do you mean by "off the shelf?"

I use carbon arrows. Can you glue feathers to carbon?


 


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Re: Fletching or rubber vanes on arrows
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2008, 02:19:17 AM »
The 'shelf' is that horizontal flat area just above the grip where the bow handle has been cut out to allow the arrow to line up with the string. By placing a thin pad of felt or similar material on this shelf, it then functions as the arrow rest, or platform, from which the arrow is launched. For instinctive shooting it can be advantageous in it's simplicity and the fact that it places the bow hand, arrow, and eye in as close a horizontal plane as possible, which is a good thing for that style shooting. On the down side, the feathers rub against the shelf and handle riser as the arrow departs the bow which will influence arrow flight to some degree. I do not find that plastic vanes work in this setup.

Alternatevly, you can add a commercially available 'arrow rest', which typically is glued to the vertical side of the handle riser an inch or so above the arrow shelf. This allows clearance for the feathers above the shelf and a slight clearance off the vertical riser, and permits the use of plastic vanes if you desire to use them. An add-on arrow rest will typically give a cleaner departure of the arrow from the bow, and perhaps improved arrow flight over shooting off the shelf, at the minor expense of introducing a gadget to your otherwise simple setup.

Regarding the gluing of feathers to carbon arrows, you can, just make sure the glue you use will adhere to carbon shafts. Some glues are designed for wood or aluminum, and will not hold long if used on carbon. Hope this helps.

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Re: Fletching or rubber vanes on arrows
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2008, 05:47:31 PM »
sidekick,

thank you for that excellently-written description. You're not a technical writer by any chance?

I have those plastic vanes, shot off the shelf. Archery store guy put a velcro (I think or maybe felt strip) on the shelf.

So the vanes are touching the shelf and handle riser as the arrow departs? Per chance due you have a picture of that add-on arrow rest? Can we post pictures here?

Maybe I should add one of those thingies on my recurve. I want to milk the most possible accuracy out of my $115, Aimpoint brand, Crossfire, 40 pound takedown.

So far I'm pretty happy with it.

Thanks to you all for your replies. Youre a great bunch.

Kernman,

alias "Cowboy"



 

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Re: Fletching or rubber vanes on arrows
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2008, 05:52:48 PM »
Sidekick,

I was mistaken. Archery shop guy DID put a plastic add-on arrow rest, about an inch above the shelf.

So I guess I'm all set. But I could improve on plastic vanes? Would feathers be better, so you think? Could I use bird feathers I find in the woods?

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Re: Fletching or rubber vanes on arrows
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2008, 02:25:05 AM »
I believe the majority of folks who shoot longbows or recurves shoot feathers. For me, feathers shoot better from my recurve, but I uses plastic vanes on arrows from my compound bow. I'm no expert by any means, but I have been shooting bows since before there were compounds, so I've tried a lot of different things.

I doubt feathers you find in the woods would be satisfactory. Feathers used for arrow fletching come from the wings of turkeys. They are cut to an equal and particular shape and typically glued to the arrow shaft with a slight helical twist, in part due to the fact that the feather has a slight natural curve to it. They curve slightly one way if they came from the right wing of the bird, and curve the other way if they came from the left wing. Either will work, but each type must be fleched with the appropriate jig for either right wing or left wing feathers.

If you could get your hand on a book entitled "Instinctive Shooting" by G. Fred Asbell, you will find a wealth of excellent information on all aspects of traditional archery. He has written several books, all good, but this one is where you should start. Good luck.