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Offline Bill R.

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Best way to heavy up an Encore
« on: June 03, 2008, 02:50:49 AM »
I just tried my 22-250 barrel on my Encore. Shot pretty well but the recoil was a little heavy. I want this for a P-dog hunt and a couple of hundred rounds in a couple of days will end up not being pleasant. It also prevents one from seeing the hits. I currently have a Prohunter stock and forearm which I like for woods hunting because it is light.  For bench work I am thinking a heavier stock might be nice. Also thinking a heavy forearm might work but don't won't to go to far.

Anyone else tamed their Encore by adding a heavier stock? Any other ideas also appreciated.

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Re: Best way to heavy up an Encore
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2008, 06:37:47 AM »
I don't find my 223 Encore pistol as having any notiacable recoil, neither was my 22-250 Encore barrel.  Have you tried the pachmyer grips, they are comfortable.

I use them on my 480 Ruger and 454 Casull in my encore and also on my 308 Winchester Encore. My 500 Mag has a set of custom wooden grips that I use, but nothing really helps much with the recoil on the 500 Mag.lol
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Re: Best way to heavy up an Encore
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2008, 08:27:45 AM »
Get a 460 S&W Magnum barrel for your Encore and shoot it awhile.  Once you've done that, 22-250 recoil won't seem so bad anymore.

Kidding aside, consider a T/C Muzzle Tamer.  It should take a big bite out of the recoil.

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Re: Best way to heavy up an Encore
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2008, 09:23:38 AM »
Get a 460 S&W Magnum barrel for your Encore and shoot it awhile.  Once you've done that, 22-250 recoil won't seem so bad anymore.

Kidding aside, consider a T/C Muzzle Tamer.  It should take a big bite out of the recoil.

I had to laugh when I read your post, I was thinking the same thing on the lines of the 500 mag in an Encore.  To me my 480 and 454 Casull are light recoiling guns, after shooting my 500 and 460 Mags..
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Re: Best way to heavy up an Encore
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2008, 10:58:28 AM »
Maybe I should explain, first I am talking about a rifle. Then I should mention the 3 herniated discs in my neck. I can still shoot magnum handguns and have a 460,308 and a 45/70. Taking the recoil right into my shoulder and the face slap is what wears me out. I also like being able to see the hit on a P-dog. So it isn't about being macho so much as being able to keep the gun down to see the hit.

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Re: Best way to heavy up an Encore
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2008, 11:10:00 AM »
Bill. You could add a pachmyer  recoil pad and while you have the recoil pad off you could add some weight to the hollow butt stock. i have seen the stock filled with epoxy and anything could be added in the epoxy to add more weight. After thought i don't know if you can get to the hollow areas with the rubber cushions in the buttstock, you will have to look. don't have a pro hunter stock.

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Re: Best way to heavy up an Encore
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2008, 11:17:37 AM »
I have the PH t-hole stock on my 375H&H Encore, I filled the stock cavity with lead shot for bench work, may work for the standard PH stock too.

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Re: Best way to heavy up an Encore
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2008, 11:54:03 AM »
Bill R, try are mercury recoil suppressor. I had one in my Encore 416 rigby, really reduces the recoil.
http://www.mercuryrecoil.com/contact.htm

Also I assumed you were talking about a handgun, seings how you are in the T/C handgun forum.
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Re: Best way to heavy up an Encore
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2008, 12:00:55 PM »
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Maybe I should explain, first I am talking about a rifle.

You did post in the T/C handgun section.

For a rifle, I can highly recommend the walnut thumbhole stock I got for my Encore from Fox Ridge Outfitters.  It isn't the stock I would use for big game hunting but I consider it perfect for benchrest and varmint shooting.  It is a bit heavier than the composite stock and has a nice recoil pad.

A brake still wouldn't be a bad idea.  I have a rifle with a recoil reducer in the stock (not mercury but it works the same) that works quite well so that could be another thing to try.  To me, a brake seems easier.

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Re: Best way to heavy up an Encore
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2008, 09:03:59 PM »
Personally, I just don't like getting beat up while trying to have fun.  No neck/back problems, just don't like to hurt after a day of shooting.  Synthetic stocks are USUALLY hollow.  I know some aren't...   So I just add a couple pounds of #9 birdshot into the cavity in the butt.  I take some thick foam and press down as far as I can get it toward the grip.  Then I put one ziplock freezer bag inside another and leaving them open, I push them down into the stock with a dowel and try to spread them open inside the stock.  A funnel is used to fill the bags and I tap it all down while it is filling.  You can get a LOT of #9 in a small area.  Seal the bags.  Cover with a thin piece of foam and put the pad back on.  Really easy to bring back to the original weight if you need to.  I hunt normally off of stands that aren't more than 200 meters from the road, so I don't care how heavy it is.  I even did this to my Tikka T3 Light .308.  I bought it in case I get to go hunting for some of the game in the alps.  I can make it from over 10 pounds to right at 7 in about 2 minutes.

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Re: Best way to heavy up an Encore
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2008, 08:28:50 AM »
If you are interested in spotting your shots you need to keep the muzzle from climbing...and adding weight to the butt  will not have much effect on muzzle rise.  To reduce that, you can add weight to the forend, and/or add a directional brake.  The latter directs the gasses upward to help keep the muzzle down - Mag-Na-Port is an example.  Both will reduce muzzle rise and at the same time reduce overall recoil.



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Re: Thanks guys
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2008, 12:39:27 PM »
My bad, I went down till I saw Encore and missed that there was a rifle forum further down. As normal I was in too big a hurry.

I like the idea of adding the shot to the stock, easy to try and remove if it doesn't work. I also have an extra murcury recoil reducer so may try that as well. The muzzle brake may be a last resort. Last I checked those are over $100 installed.

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Re: Best way to heavy up an Encore
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2008, 05:48:06 PM »
I have also done as tim has,I  am not a shotshell reloader so I used BB gun BB's in mine.
 it is one heavy tank now. I have not got my 300 win mag back yet from getting a brake installed
but with those done I bet she will shoot like a 30-30
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Re: Best way to heavy up an Encore
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2008, 08:19:19 AM »
Steel scope mounts instead of aluminum - unless it is a real handcannon (the 22-250 is not) and then the steel can become a liability.