tm. Obama was made for you. You both hate president Bush, both hate Israel and America, and you both love the Godless ones. You'll vote for him in one way or another. Another wasted vote, sad. POWDERMAN. 
And powderman, the undisputed King of the
argumentum ad hominem. Either debate the actual issues or crawl back under your rock. Please.
Sounds good, TM, but it is just another tool by which the process is manipulated. Splitting your opponents votes by offering up some lookin' good but can't win candidate isn't a new trick. And casting your vote for the "I think we ought to sing the cows to death instead of hitting them in the head with a stun gun" party is a exercise in futility. A wasted trip to the polls. You're not gonna change America with one trip to the polls. Not with one vote in a national election. The changes would have to be made over a long pull and I doubt that the "instant gratification" Americans would have the staying power for the accomplishment of it. It would have to begin at the local level. School superintendents, aldermen. It would require involvement and awareness of what was going on. The reason we are in the shape we're in is we've trusted the fox to watch our hen house too long. If we demanded accountability of our local pols long enough and proved to them that what we were doing wasn't a flash in the pan and ran enough of them out of office, things would change in a small way. We would create a small ripple. And if we kept at it long enough, the ripple would grow. But it would take a long time and a strong, constant effort; just like it took a long time for us to get in this fix.
And then you come to this, considering in America today, watching people walk barefooted thru caves full of bat poop and eat live cockroaches is considered good, wholesome family TV and the media is determined to defile and debase any and all who come under their lenses, why would any decent, respectable citizen consider running for public office?
Beeman, I'm afraid that this post hits the heart of the matter. In 1776, this nation was populated largely by first and second generation immigrants. Their reasons for leaving their homelands were fresh in their minds, they knew that they were in the proverbial "Promised Land" and they were willing to fight for it.
They were also a hard bunch of men. There were a great number of men who were veterans of the French and Indian war, and they were all well versed in the fine arts of shooting and fieldcraft. The younger men, though not veterans of combat, still faced the fact that life in America was not for the weaklings.
Today, our population has grown, and there are far too many "sheeple" walking this land. Soft people, who've never stepped foot off of pavement or well-manicured lawns. Never held a rifle in their hands, much less learned how to use it. Never contemplated what they believe, much less weigh their beliefs against the value of another human being's life.
These people, who make up probably 80% or better of this nation, are marching glassy-eyed into oblivion, and the rest of us are caught up in the massive wave. We will never be able to turn them toward the light, because they do not wish to be turned. We will be hard-pressed to remove ourselves from that tide and find a tiny island of isolation where we can scratch out a living as the last free people on earth. When conditions are right, the .gov will come for us, just like they did at Waco, and as they are trying to do to those LDS people.
