Author Topic: Quotes from his books... (Read 3635 times)

ironglow · « **on:** June 04, 2008, 01:59:45 PM »

Sometimes we have to look at statements made BEFORE someone starts running a national campaign in order to get to the heart of the matter.
Once they start a natiopnal campaign, their words are "filtered"..sometimes not too good though !

Her are a couple quotes from B. hussein Obama's books:

from "Dreams of My Father"..

"I never emulate white and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. I was into my father's image , the black man, son of Africa, that I had packed all
my attributes. I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin, Malcoln, DuBois and Mandella.
( his father was a Muslim, Malcolm was a Muslim and Dubois was an American that fled the US and turned Commie)

from "Dreams of My Father"..

" I found solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."

( Yet, it was his white mother & grandparents that cared for him and raised him..while Dad ran off to Africa..GRATITUDE)

from "Audacity of hope"..

"I will stand with the Muslims, should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

to be cont'd..

deltecs · « **Reply #1 on:** June 04, 2008, 02:11:10 PM »

Futher quotes from his book.

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In Obama's own words...

This guy wants to be our President and control our government. Pay close attention to the last comment!! Below are a few lines from Obama's books, his words:

From Dreams of My Father: "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

From Dreams of My Father : "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mothers race."

From Dreams of My Father: "There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."

From Dreams of My Father: "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

From Dreams of My Father: "I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself,the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."

From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

I think more and more like this man is a Manchurian Candidate. When he meets with Ahmadinejad, the joke will on the US as a whole.

ironglow · « **Reply #2 on:** June 04, 2008, 02:13:10 PM »

Deltecs;
Our cool minds think alike !...LOL

Then too; when Obama & Amidinijab meet, will two Muslim minds think alike..you may be right, the joke could be on us !

TribReady · « **Reply #3 on:** June 04, 2008, 06:05:07 PM »

Thanks for posting. Post more exerpts as you find them. We need to be telling anyone who will listen all about B.HusseinO.

I hope and pray someone in the GOP is already making commercials to run with this type of stuff. No need to even try to play it up or exagerate anything, these are his own thoughts and beliefs. The typical US citizen is comfortably numb and has no idea what they're/we're in for.

May God continue to bless America.

rex6666 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 05, 2008, 04:59:36 AM »

what does Iraq have to do with what obama is writing, another attempt to twist another topic about obama

thxmrgarand · « **Reply #5 on:** June 05, 2008, 05:33:53 AM »

People who want to continue shooting and hunting without additional federal restrictions, and people who want to avoid the ultimate threat of gun confiscation, now have no choice but to vote for McCain. A vote for a true pro-gun candidate will be a wasted vote and will increase the risk of an anti-gun White House and an anti-gun Congress working together to restrict the right to keep and bear arms. Gunowners can work with McCain but they certainly cannot work with Obama. As always, a democracy gives each of us the choice of sitting on the sidelines and whining. Alternatively, we can stay involved in the process, working for pro-gun candidates, giving money and attending fundraising events (we're attending one tomorrow night), and making sure that family and friends vote for gun rights. Gun owners know the facts are on our side but we have to ensure that the politics are on our side.

beemanbeme · « **Reply #6 on:** June 05, 2008, 06:05:17 AM »

Excellent post, Thxmrgarand.
I have heard folks say, "We have such a lousy choice this time, I'm not even gonna vote." This, of course, plays right into the pols hands. They give lip service to voter participation but the smaller voter turn out, the better they like it. Then they only have to pander to a few single-issue, knee-jerk groups to get elected. Why run on a platform of fiscal responsibility when you can promise your constituents more welfare and get elected.

BBF · « **Reply #7 on:** June 05, 2008, 06:11:22 AM »

so what conclusions if any are you making of the fact that Obama shows up at the AIPAC meeting with an Israeli Flag on his lapel??

thxmrgarand · « **Reply #8 on:** June 05, 2008, 07:13:57 AM »

Mr. 45-70 Gov't, I am not sure your question was for me but I do have one answer. I have a few friends who are Jews and are very active politically. They are not fooled whatsoever about Obama, and some of the emails about Obama which they forward to me should give any American ample reasons to not vote for Obama under any circumstances whatsoever. Others may have more cogent answers.

On a very separate note, even if Obama was otherwise an acceptable candidate for high office, I am personally offended by a phenomenon I see in the press and in public life today (which is typified by the Obama candidacy). It seems that a minority candidate - even if self-identified as a minority by personal choice - receives a free pass that a white candidate can neither mention nor obtain. Moreover, elected officials who identify themselves as members of a minority race or ethnic group are able to focus their attention, help and work on that group once elected whereas white officials need to bend over backwards to show that they support minorities. Minorities are able to disregard the white part of their constituencies. Also, when 90% of black voters vote for Obama the media has no comment but when 60% of white voters do not vote for Obama the media calls that racism. Maybe it's just me but that is what I see in America today.

This election year is critical to American gun owners. Thanks for your time.

deltecs · « **Reply #9 on:** June 05, 2008, 10:16:14 AM »

The topic of this post is about the Obama's character written in his own words. This is not about McCain, who is definitely not a McBush as others would have one think, nor is it about Bush. It is about a person who has spoken a lot and said nothing. It about the Democratic Presidential candidate, who has strong Muslim ties, who has equated himself with black racism and anti white establishment, who has attended for over 20 years a church, which has a manifesto of African nationalism above America and damns this country, who has rejected his American heritage in that a man with less than 3 years Senate experience is qualified to be Chief Executive of the United States, who is totally against individual firearms ownership, who has written he would stand with Muslims against his own country, and who's only campaign promise is change. Change to what? It looks to me to be a change toward extreme socialism or communism with a Muslim tenet. This is not about Bush, not about McCain, not about Clinton. This is about the Democratic Party nomination of Obama and the direction they'd like to see this country headed. TM do not change the subject. Bush is gone. McCain has a chance to upset Obama's liberalism ideology. So, you do not like McCain. So, you do not like Jews. So, I do not like your twisting of facts toward some hypothetical scenario other than the topic discussed. You have a right to your opinion, express your opinion, not twisting the words of others. The Manchurian Candidate is exactly as you have expressed, but the outcome of an Obama win could be just as drastic with similar results. For your information, Obama was brainwashed in a Muslim school with Muslim teachings and it wasn't until his entrance into politics that he went to a Christian? church.

deltecs · « **Reply #10 on:** June 05, 2008, 11:05:47 AM »

My agenda is my own and has nothing to do with Jews or Muslims. I do not like religious extemists in any form, be they Christian like Rev Wright and others, Muslim, or Jews. I especially do not like terrorism, be it supported by governments or government leaders in any form. I do not like like candidates, who write one thing and then talk another. I do not like being called a neo nazi, just because I'm more conservative and like constructionist principles instead of liberlism, socialism and communism. I like capitalism with the associated ailments. I like individual owership of firearms and believe this to be the most important cornerstone of freedom and democracy even in a Republic. I'm not the one attempting to brainwash anyone. I'm posting comments written by the Democratic Presidential Candidate and expressed my OPINIONS on these writings and policy positions in line with the topic. I'd much rather be a GOP fanatic, (which I am not by the way) than an opinionated educated liberal socialist or an emotionaly weak paranoid who's hatred of the GOP is obvious.

jhm · « **Reply #11 on:** June 05, 2008, 12:44:18 PM »

Deltec I am with you on the McBush commet Bush isnt running and no matter how many attempts someone refere to him as such or Senior Bush he still isnt running, you would think that someone who was always trying to push THEIR own agenda down the pipe would know that before saying so, I can say for certain at least I LIKED the Advocate!! Jim

billy_56081 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 05, 2008, 01:30:14 PM »

Now that our resident Nazi sympthiser has tried to get this off track, lets get back to the subject of Barrak Hussien Obama and his vile belief system.

1. Barrka Hussien Obama has racist affiliations, his church no matter how he tries to distance himself now, he was a member until it was out in print and video.

2. He studied and alligned himself with socialist and communists in his college career.

3. He advocates Africa before America.

4. He is for gun control and the destruction of the second amendment. (this should be a top concern of all members of GBO)

I'm thinking that is this feral piece of garbage is elected to the presidency of the United States of America, the revolution needs to start.

torpedoman · « **Reply #13 on:** June 05, 2008, 01:50:08 PM »

The one thing i do admire about McCain is the fact that he did stay in the prison camp They knew he was a son of an admiral and offered him his freedom every day for propaganda uses and he turned it down for a beating on a daily basis.

deltecs · « **Reply #14 on:** June 05, 2008, 02:44:51 PM »

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Now get back to your Obama bashing if it gets your boat afloat. Seems like all the GOP fanatics are good for these days is trashing the opposition McCarthy style.

I think it was the Democrats who have been Bush bashing for the last 4 years and GOP bashing for the last 14 years. Obama cannot say a single thing the GOP has accomplished or he wouldn't get elected. Obama's Senatorial record is clear on policy issues regardless of what he says now. Obama's writings belie his speeches and stance currently. If his policies are any example of the way the US is heading, I'm of the opinion that we are headed for severe internal conflict and economic disaster. He cannot accomplish anything without the help of a Democratic Congress and the environmentalist who control them. If anyone believes a Democratic Congress and President is going to resolve the energy and economic problems facing this nation, they are going to be sadly mistaken. The Democrats only want to leave Iraq, so the money spent on the war against terror and American security can then go toward environmental policies enacted by Democrats. This is not going to change anyone's lifestyle and may jeopardize our internal security substantially, by moving in that direction. I agree that alternative energy sources need constructed, but so do more nuclear, and clean fossil fuel energy. We need to open our own resources, build new refineries, and construct alternative energy sources until we wean ourselves from dependency on foreign fossil fuels. Obama has no agenda for accomplishing these goals, has not indicated any plan, has written anti American loyalty to Africa and Muslim manifesto, has absolutely no real foreign policy, and has indicated a nationalization of common services and goods. That smacks of communism, or at the very least, extreme socialism. Who do you think is going to pay for these programs? And without any internal security for the American people? Take away the firearms and anything is possible. That is just what he wants to do. If this is McCarthism, bring him back; maybe then we could impeach a perjure and get a conviction.

Beers · « **Reply #15 on:** June 05, 2008, 02:52:24 PM »

TM7, Everyone on this forum knows that our political system is FUBAR. I don't like what the GOP has become, and the dems make my skin crawl. McCain's FAAAR from perfect. We know. But you have to face this unavoidable, incontrovertible FACT: Our next Commander in Chief will either be Mcain, or Obama. Pick one. I know who I'm voting for. I don't like him, but I do like my right to keep and bear arms.

Billy, I think you're out of line. When I joined this site I read a bunch of rules. Some of them mentioned name calling and profanity. A person might get away with slinging all manner of four letter words at me with little or no consequence. If someone ever called me a nazi sympathizer to my face physical violence would ensue. TM7 may post an awful lot of gas that you don't like, hell, I don't like most of it either, but there's no call for that kind of baseless insult.

Good post Deltecs, I often don't agree with you... But that's a pretty spot on summary.

kevthebassman · « **Reply #16 on:** June 05, 2008, 03:21:11 PM »

Obama is the hollow man. A convenient vessel for the ideology of the true power players in the liberal elite. Obama started his political career as a puppet of the Daley machine in Chicago. Now he's a puppet of a much larger machine. A slick and hip exterior shell for the same recycled filth that they've tried to force on us since the days of JFK.

deltecs · « **Reply #17 on:** June 05, 2008, 03:43:30 PM »

The Democrats are just misguided? Wait a minute. How did a President maintain a 75% approval rating after perjury? Did people actually believe him, when he said he did not have sex with that woman? What happened to Paula Jones and her rights under law and under which, this same President was supposed to enforce and vowed to protect? Misguided? Not by a long shot. This is another emotional McCarthy style SUPPORT, instead of attacks of a party and its leader. Obama is just misguided? Another McCarthy style support regardless of ability? Did anyone actually believe the Democrats and liberals that said they prevented 10,000 felons from getting firearms with enactment of the Brady Bill? Why didn't they then go after those felons and convict them of attempting to possess firearms? It was against federal law to purchase or apply for a firearms purchase, prior to the Brady Bill. How many were convicted? Only 3 out of 10,000 felons. Or were these felons just incomplete applications? Another slanderous lie by Democrats? Obama at least, is outspoken against firearms. Is he too, just misguided or just too stupid to understand the law of the land? These liberal Democratic policies have been used to twist the American perception, to the point of unrecognizable proportions regarding the Constitution and its laws. Obama will be even worse with a Democratic controlled Congress behind him, especially with Pelosi as Speaker and possibly Clinton as President of the Senate. Just what changes can we percieve and expect with these power players in charge? I sure do not believe what the Democrats and its leaders have been assuring the American people for years. I especially do not believe what I'm seeing and hearing now by Obama and the DNC.

powderman · « **Reply #18 on:** June 05, 2008, 03:51:23 PM »

DELTECS, BILLY, IG, Good posts.
BEERS. Billy was being truthful and polite. Good ol tm has called several of us a lot worse, so if the shoe fits. POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #19 on:** June 05, 2008, 04:57:38 PM »

The original post was about statements from Obama's own mind, written by him in his own books..
Trying to shift the discussion away from the actual points brought up, to others like Bush and Mccain is what is called in debating circles "deflecting".
...So, let's quit deflecting !

L et's get back to the points of Obama's own writings !
Considering that he belonged for 20 years. to a "church" that preaches "Africa first and foremost" and has given "Calypso" Louis Farrakhan, a special day
and a special recognition for "lifetime achievement" (as the nation's leading Muslim proselytizer ?) andthe endorsement of Obama by Muslim terrorist groups..
...And given the fact that Obama said,... " I will stand with the Muslims, should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

How secure do you feel about turning the oval office over to him ?

Beers · « **Reply #20 on:** June 06, 2008, 03:30:18 AM »

TM7, so you've given up on "lesser of two evils" voting... are you just not voting, are you planning to vote third party? What good will either do, how will either change a damn thing? We are going to have a new President. It will be either McCain or Obama. No matter how you vote, or not vote, it will help or hurt one or the other. Those are the only choices we've been given. Yes, the two party system stinks. Yes, our choices stink. What's your grand plan to change any of that?

beemanbeme · « **Reply #21 on:** June 06, 2008, 11:40:32 AM »

Sounds good, TM, but it is just another tool by which the process is manipulated. Splitting your opponents votes by offering up some lookin' good but can't win candidate isn't a new trick. And casting your vote for the "I think we ought to sing the cows to death instead of hitting them in the head with a stun gun" party is a exercise in futility. A wasted trip to the polls. You're not gonna change America with one trip to the polls. Not with one vote in a national election. The changes would have to be made over a long pull and I doubt that the "instant gratification" Americans would have the staying power for the accomplishment of it. It would have to begin at the local level. School superintendents, aldermen. It would require involvement and awareness of what was going on. The reason we are in the shape we're in is we've trusted the fox to watch our hen house too long. If we demanded accountability of our local pols long enough and proved to them that what we were doing wasn't a flash in the pan and ran enough of them out of office, things would change in a small way. We would create a small ripple. And if we kept at it long enough, the ripple would grow. But it would take a long time and a strong, constant effort; just like it took a long time for us to get in this fix.

And then you come to this, considering in America today, watching people walk barefooted thru caves full of bat crap and eat live cockroaches is considered good, wholesome family TV and the media is determined to defile and debase any and all who come under their lenses, why would any decent, respectable citizen consider running for public office?

DakotaElkSlayer · « **Reply #22 on:** June 06, 2008, 08:38:07 PM »

Please follow the link and get some education... In the future, when you get a BS email, no matter how much YOU WISH it were true, take two minutes, go to snopes.com and see how factual it is...please. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

Jim

DakotaElkSlayer · « **Reply #23 on:** June 06, 2008, 08:43:10 PM »

Quote from: deltecs on June 05, 2008, 10:16:14 AM

For your information, Obama was brainwashed in a Muslim school with Muslim teachings and it wasn't until his entrance into politics that he went to a Christian? church.

Hey, if you don't like the guy because of his party affiliation, or the color of his skin, say so! Don't go around making up BS or repeating BS from the web... Again, check the facts... http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

Jim

ironglow · « **Reply #24 on:** June 07, 2008, 01:49:39 AM »

Dakota;
  Sometimes we must be perceptive for ourselves..even with Snopes.com. Snopes is not the end-all, be-all in deciding. Just look at your last Snopes excerpt;
  the one where Snopes attempts to "demolish" the idea that Obama may be a closet Muslim !

   I would encourage all here to read that bit of Snopes "research" with a critical eye !

   Snopes claims Obama's Muslim history not to be true...but where do they go for facts ? They go to Obama's own book and pronounce that as the "true facts" !
  Yeah sure; .....And we could go to Teddy Kennedy's account to find out what "truly happened" at the Dyke Street bridge ! Or maybe interview OJ Simpson to
   find out for sure what he was doing the night of the Brentwood murders !

   What we do know, even from his own writings is that Obama was brought up in a very unstable, spiritually confused and politically unstable family !

   Let's compare his family's background to that of his presumed opponent. Let's see how much and how faithfully each has served his native country.
   Let's see if each was brought up in a patriotic, spiritually and emotionally stable family. Let's see if that family has a HISTORY of loyalty to the USA..and if
  that loyalty continues..that is to say, more than " for the first time in my life I am proud of my country".

   First; do a web search < Barak Obama, bio > then < John McCain, bio > then go to Snopes.

   www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/mccainsons.asp

powderman · « **Reply #25 on:** June 07, 2008, 02:57:06 AM »

tm. Obama was made for you. You both hate president Bush, both hate Israel and America, and you both love the Godless ones. You'll vote for him in one way or another. Another wasted vote, sad. POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #26 on:** June 07, 2008, 04:26:48 AM »

TM;

If you look again..I simply asked fair & balanced questions; I didn't "paint" any image..I encouraged folks to look up the info for themselves, by looking into each one's bio,
and finally to go to Dakota's favored Snopes.com !

How did Carl Rove get dragged into this

billy_56081 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 07, 2008, 04:42:50 AM »

Now their are rumbling of recordings of Barrak Hussien Obama's wife making some very anti white racist comments. Only time will tell if they are truea and if whoeverhas them releases them. I'm sure the hate America/Blame America first crowd will defend thier Anti American buddy Barrak, but if he is elected it will be time for a revolution once again. ONe of the sad thing about freedom of speech is that we have to listen to even the stupid and irrelivent folks too.

ironglow · « **Reply #28 on:** June 07, 2008, 07:55:17 AM »

Billy;
An interesting read is Michelle Obama's senior thesis, done while at Princeton. I was after much pressurereleased by Princeton, but "someone" is trying to scrub it
off the net...Hmmmm
Other thyan reading as if it were written by a seventh-grader, there are some insights into how she feels about 'whitey' and the blacks..

www.scribd.org/doc/2305083/princetonEducated-blacks-and-the-Black-community

Don't take anybody's word for it ..read HER WORDS..

ironglow · « **Reply #29 on:** June 07, 2008, 08:11:49 AM »

OK TM & Dakota..let's cut through the hogwash and go to a non-partisan website that uses "just the facts, mam" ! That being the most telling facts..what they
actually said and how they actually voted..more reliable than Snopes.

www.ontheissues.org/default.htm

Important to many of us is how they voted on "gun control". Should the restrictions on gun shows be loosened ? Should local cities and states be
allowed to "make their own rules"..thus undercutting the 2nd amendment ?

Another question important to many here; Should the holocaust of partial-birth-abortion be continued ? Is it permissable to kill little boys & girls WHILE they
are being born ?

Just reviewing how the candidates voted about these things tells us more about the candidate than all the campaign speeches and rallies..