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Re: Quotes from his books...
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2008, 08:21:01 AM »
IG there is nothing on that page but a bunch of advertisements. (www.scribd.org/doc/2305083/princetonEducated-blacks-and-the-Black-community)

If you find something negative about the obamas ya best copy and paste it rat then cuz it's not likely to stay long otherwise. Whoever it is grooming him for the job they are powerful and are not gonna let anything bad stand long in the way of him taking this country over and giving it to the muzlims.


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« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2008, 08:30:30 AM »
Thanks GB..it was there when I found it or I wouldn't have cited it..perhaps if someone does a search  for < Michelle Obama's  thesis >..then see if you can read the
   whole thing  I'll keep looking, perhaps some website has preserved it !

  Don't try Google though, since they are part owned by an Al Gore outfit and are very partisan..
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« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2008, 08:32:24 AM »
tm. Obama was made for you. You both hate president Bush, both  hate Israel and America, and you both love the Godless ones.  You'll vote for him in one way or another. Another wasted vote, sad.  POWDERMAN.  :( :( :( :( :( :(

And powderman, the undisputed King of the argumentum ad hominem.  Either debate the actual issues or crawl back under your rock.  Please.

Sounds good, TM,  but it is just another tool by which the process is manipulated.  Splitting your opponents votes by offering up some lookin' good but can't win candidate isn't a new trick.  And casting your vote for the "I think we ought to sing the cows to death instead of hitting them in the head with a stun gun" party is a exercise in futility.  A wasted trip to the polls. You're not gonna change America with one trip to the polls.  Not with one vote in a national election. The changes would have to be made over a long pull and I doubt that the "instant gratification" Americans would have the staying power for the accomplishment of it. It would have to begin at the local level. School superintendents, aldermen.  It would require involvement and awareness of what was going on.  The reason we are in the shape we're in is we've trusted the fox to watch our hen house too long. If we demanded accountability of our local pols long enough and proved to them that what we were doing wasn't a flash in the pan and ran enough of them out of office, things would change in a small way.  We would create a small ripple.  And if we kept at it long enough, the ripple would grow. But it would take a long time and a strong, constant effort;  just like it took a long time for us to get in this fix.

And then you come to this, considering in America today, watching people walk barefooted thru caves full of bat poop and eat live cockroaches is considered good, wholesome family TV and the media is determined to defile and debase any and all who come under their lenses, why would any decent, respectable citizen consider running for public office? 

Beeman, I'm afraid that this post hits the heart of the matter.  In 1776, this nation was populated largely by first and second generation immigrants.  Their reasons for leaving their homelands were fresh in their minds, they knew that they were in the proverbial "Promised Land" and they were willing to fight for it.

They were also a hard bunch of men.  There were a great number of men who were veterans of the French and Indian war, and they were all well versed in the fine arts of shooting and fieldcraft.  The younger men, though not veterans of combat, still faced the fact that life in America was not for the weaklings.

Today, our population has grown, and there are far too  many "sheeple" walking this land.  Soft people, who've never stepped foot off of pavement or well-manicured lawns.  Never held a rifle in their hands, much less learned how to use it.  Never contemplated what they believe, much less weigh their beliefs against the value of another human being's life.

These people, who make up probably 80% or better of this nation, are marching glassy-eyed into oblivion, and the rest of us are caught up in the massive wave.  We will never be able to turn them toward the light, because they do not wish to be turned.  We will be hard-pressed to remove ourselves from that tide and find a tiny island of isolation where we can scratch out a living as the last free people on earth.  When conditions are right, the .gov will come for us, just like they did at Waco, and as they are trying to do to those LDS people.

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Re: Quotes from his books...
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2008, 08:41:32 AM »
  Try this one..if it hasn't been "scrubbed", you will find parts #1, #2, #3 & #4 all listed at the end of the article..that's her actual thesis..

 try this    http://plancksconstant.org/   then search the archives, top of column on right..for <  obama thesis  >      check out the massive intellect !
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« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2008, 11:03:55 AM »
  For your information, Obama was brainwashed in a Muslim school with Muslim teachings and it wasn't until his entrance into politics that he went to a Christian? church.

Hey, if you don't like the guy because of his party affiliation, or the color of his skin, say so!  Don't go around making up BS or repeating BS from the web...  Again, check the facts... http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

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I've already said I didn't like the guy along with his party affiliation.  I don't care about the color of his skin, but I do think his association for over 20 years with a Christian? church that has a manifesto according to its own website, which focus's on blacks, African heritage, and racism in general.  So, I do have a problem with reverse discrimination and its effects.  The BS as posted was written by Obama and it is up to the individual to determine the writers intent.  I chose my own interpretation and believe it to be accurate.  I don't like Obama for his firearms stand.  I don't like Obama for his lack of detailed or even an outline for his proposed changes.  I don't like his association with others, who damn America and then tell me that after 20 years and his mentor, he did not know this man's convictions.  I don't like his concept regarding national health care, big business, or higher taxes.  I don't like the idea of his spending tax dollars for the down trodden.  This country provides every opportunity to get out of the gutter, but it takes fortitude, commitment, and hard work.  Obama has proved that for himself.  So has other eminent black leaders and professionals.  But for him to take tax dollars and then redistrubute this wealth to those undeserved is socialism itself, and that I do not agree with.  So, I dislike the man, his association, his possible Muslim leanings or connections, his position of distrust of lawful citizens having firearms, and his extremely socialist policies.  I do not like the Democrats for the similar reasons.  His written comments indicate his integrity to me.


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« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2008, 12:59:12 PM »
Sounds good enough for me, Deltecs.  Oddly enough, I don't have a real problem with his church's position.  Someone find me one black politician that hasn't railed against the opessive whites sometime along his path to election.  :D

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« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2008, 03:34:50 PM »
Carl Rove is not running for President and can be fired at will.
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« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2008, 03:57:23 PM »
Deltecs got it about right..the subject is "quotes from his books"...
   I could understand if you tried to deflect toward McCain; but Carl Rove ?
  Carl Rove is not running for office, never did as far as I know,
  and has nothing, zero, nada to do with this election cycle !
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« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2008, 02:31:35 AM »
  TM;
  Again; if you want to criticize..at least do so with folks that are relevant to the current campaign, not those of the past 4-8 years !
  You ask for "concrete evidence"..show me your "concrete evidence" about Carl Rove being "gay"..of course, I haven't studied him as closely as perhaps you have,
  being as he has never held any national office..as far as I know ! Your charge of hypocrisy is bogus, being as an operative from the last, outgoing administration is
  not even part of the discussion..and I have never dwelt upon Carl Rove...but you can if you wish.
 
     Back to the subject: I didn't use nearly the spectrum of unflattering adjectives to describe Obama as you just did..but it is humorus though !
   Upbringing ? I only referred to the actual candidates, background..not the life histories of present or past political operatives associated with the current or
   historical campaigns.

   I did enjoy you analogy to Obama having "risen from the forge"....LOL    ..Being a blacksmith, I have some knowledge of forges. A lot of things come out of the forge !
  There is smoke and noxious fumes to start with, but as the fire continues and the heat grows..the smoke screen and the noxious gasses clear off ! This campaign
  has just started; we still have the smoke, noxious gasses & mirage of partisan primaries to put behind us.
   Soon, the real preheating will begin, and perhaps the true steel will show through. When a length of steel is pulled from the fire and thrust into the quenching water, a lot of "slag" or impure encrustations fall off. Let us hope that the fires of truth will burn brightly enough that the true steel will show through.
   When I forge a blade, I must get it up to appx 1475 F before I harden the steel with oil quench..If the steel never gets it's "trial by fire" (1475 F), it can never
  become a worthwhile piece of "true blade steel".   
      Allegorically speaking, one of these men have been tried in the "refiners fire", he has been tried by a diabolical enemy in such a way as the other one has only
   heard "folk tales" about !
   I'll choose the one that has PROVEN to be "True American Steel", thank you !
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« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2008, 08:13:57 AM »
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All this is giving me a headache. Somewhere back on thispost it was written that Obama might be hlpful with dealings in Africa. If that meant economics or raw material, he is too late. The Chinese beat him to it. >:(
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« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2008, 02:00:42 PM »
A government of the Corporation, by the Corporation, and for the Corporation.  That about sums it up TM7.  Defense contractors, lobbyists, mega-corporations, and media moguls.  That's who runs this show, and if you don't believe it, you're just the kind of fool that they love.

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« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2008, 03:43:28 PM »
They've got quite a racket going, really.  I'm jealous.

All they've done to achieve this is let the schools turn into idiot factories. 

This has benefited both parties, in that has bred a population of people dependent on the government for their every need, to be catered to by the Democrat party.  They've also created a mirror population of people utterly incapable of critical thought when it involves religion, foreign countries, or the growing problem of militarism in this country.  These people are catered to by the Republican party.

These two groups make up probably 60% of the nation.  Each 30% can be counted on to steadfastly support their party, no matter how imbecilic, dishonest, or criminal. 

Between them, they manage to convince most of the people living in this nation that the two parties aren't marching steadily toward the same ultimate goal; authoritarian socialism.

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« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2008, 03:59:48 PM »
So Kev and TM what are either of you going to do to try to make America better? I'm going to vote against he most damaging candidate. I have served in the United States Army and my children currently serve. I get tired of whiners,(they remind me of liberals) very few here have even seen remotly hard times. My grandparents lived through the great depression and 2 world wars. People from that era would be ashamed to see Americans whining like you. Heck I do what I want, go where I want to and eat what I want to, I think I have it pretty good.
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« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2008, 04:04:02 PM »
Right on Billy, we have it pretty good..compared to every Muslim, Marxist, Socialist and neo-anarchist nation in the world..
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« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2008, 04:44:20 PM »
So Kev and TM what are either of you going to do to try to make America better? I'm going to vote against he most damaging candidate. I have served in the United States Army and my children currently serve. I get tired of whiners,(they remind me of liberals) very few here have even seen remotly hard times. My grandparents lived through the great depression and 2 world wars. People from that era would be ashamed to see Americans whining like you. Heck I do what I want, go where I want to and eat what I want to, I think I have it pretty good.

I'll be doing much the same thing as you, Billy.  I'll be voting against BOTH of the most damaging candidates in '08.  I refuse to vote for the "lesser" evil, because they're both headed down the same path.  I'll be voting for the Libertarians.

As for your grandparents and people from that era, they are part of the reason we are in the spot we are now.  Yes, they pulled through the depression and WWII nicely, but they also sat happily by while FDR's policies kept up in the depression years after everyone else was on the road to recovery.  They also sat happily by while he tried to pack the Supreme Court to push through the rest of his social agenda.  That generation grew up believing that the government could do no wrong, and that has clearly been shown to be false.

As for your comment about "whining," you can stick that somewhere dark and warm.  You may be perfectly happy living in The United States of War and/or Socialism, but I am not.  I see the dark path this nation is headed down, and I don't like it one bit.  Both of the major parties are bought and paid for by lobbyists and other interests.  You may be a dyed in the wool Republicrat, but that doesn't give you some special high ground from which to proclaim who is and who is not "whining."

Neither party will do the things critical to the survival of this nation, such as bringing spending under control, closing the borders, and ending the welfare state.  Why would they stall on such critical issues if they weren't a vital part of their plan to turn this nation into a third world hell-hole that they could subsequently "rescue" with socialism and totalitarian government?

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« Reply #45 on: June 09, 2008, 05:10:58 PM »
  I understand the country of Belize..is accepting willing immigrants...
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« Reply #46 on: June 10, 2008, 02:04:21 AM »
  I understand the country of Belize..is accepting willing immigrants...

But I love this country, IG.  That's why it pisses me off to no end when I see it being run (into the ground) by liars and criminals. 

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« Reply #47 on: June 10, 2008, 04:57:15 AM »
Sounds like KEVTHEBASSMAN & TM7 should run for political office and straighten this
country out. since they have ALL the answers :-*
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« Reply #48 on: June 10, 2008, 05:12:54 AM »
so what conclusions if any are you making of the fact that Obama shows up at the AIPAC meeting with an Israeli Flag on his lapel??

John Stewart explains it very well in this video.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=171492&title=indecision-5768


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« Reply #49 on: June 11, 2008, 03:51:48 AM »
IMHO
TRUTH,HONESTY,COMMON SENSE
Is all it take to make a GOOD politician, if you can maintain the three.
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« Reply #50 on: June 11, 2008, 10:35:10 AM »
IMHO
TRUTH,HONESTY,COMMON SENSE
Is all it take to make a GOOD politician, if you can maintain the three.

All of which, as Obama has written, he does not have.
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« Reply #51 on: June 13, 2008, 04:07:04 AM »
 I have no vote in his contest although the outcome will have an affect on Canada as well.  I am not happy with the choice you have been given for your next CiC either.  What could be done and should be done is what GB wrote in regards to electing good men and women into Municipal, Sate and lower Fed positions first. The election in Nov. isn't just for the WH. Some Senate and House of Rep. seats are up as well I believe. How about gubernatorial races?
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« Reply #52 on: June 13, 2008, 06:02:52 AM »
What is the most scary is the appointments to the Surpeme Court and various Federal Courts around the land FOR LIFE.  We are still digging out from under the effect of the appointments of the touchy-feely 60's. 

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« Reply #53 on: June 13, 2008, 10:49:31 AM »
 Beeman;
  I can see where you are coming from, but how else could it be done ? What will we be facing if the most liberal senator of all gets his picks for a "lifetime" ?
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« Reply #54 on: June 13, 2008, 01:49:33 PM »
I have no vote in his contest although the outcome will have an affect on Canada as well.  I am not happy with the choice you have been given for your next CiC either.  What could be done and should be done is what GB wrote in regards to electing good men and women into Municipal, Sate and lower Fed positions first. The election in Nov. isn't just for the WH. Some Senate and House of Rep. seats are up as well I believe. How about gubernatorial races?

The problem is that no decent, moral human being with half a cup of intelligence and an ounce of sanity would ever consider going into politics.  Political offices are, with few exceptions, held by the dishonest and amoral, the dim-witted but fortunate, or the bat-feces insane. 

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« Reply #55 on: June 13, 2008, 03:56:21 PM »
The tinfoil hat party!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #56 on: June 13, 2008, 05:59:10 PM »
Oh no, I would never consider voting for Hussein. Like Slick Willie, does anyone think that the "power behind the throne" would stay behind the throne for long?  Mrs Obama has already expressed her hatred of America in enough ways to suit me for several lifetimes. Too many good, white Americans paid the ultimate price so that sleazy bitch could spew her documented hatred of America with impunity for me to vote for that straw man.

Working in Tulsa for 15 years, I heard enough about the Clintons in ensure I would never vote for either of them.  Did you ever wonder why they didn't return to their native state when Slick left the White House --with the moving van full of plunder?

And so, I am forced into voting for the lesser of the two evils --McCain.  As I have posted elsewhere, we are not gonna change America with one vote.  One national election. If I did not think the periphery fall out wasn't so vital, I write in my dog.  No, change in America is gonna have to start at the local level and build upward.  Honest, decent citizens elected on a local level with local support.
But sadly, I don't think America has the staying power to accomplish the job; nor do I think they have the time.   

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« Reply #57 on: June 19, 2008, 06:02:14 PM »
  OK TM & Dakota..let's cut through the hogwash and go to a non-partisan website that uses "just the facts, mam" ! That being the most telling facts..what they
   actually said and how they actually voted..more reliable than Snopes.

     www.ontheissues.org/default.htm

           Important to many of us is how they voted on "gun control". Should the restrictions on gun shows be loosened ?  Should local cities and states be
         allowed to "make their own rules"..thus undercutting the 2nd amendment ?

     Another question important to many here; Should the holocaust of partial-birth-abortion be continued ? Is it permissable to kill little boys & girls WHILE they
    are being born ?

   Just reviewing how the candidates voted about these things tells us more about the candidate than all the campaign speeches and rallies..

Exactly!!!  Keep it to the fact, keep it to the policy.  Oh ya, I am anti-abortion and I don't care if it is rape or incest; isn't the baby's fault!!!  Unlike conservatives, I don't have a problem with my tax dollars going to help feed and provide medical care to those children.  Can't exactly be on the morale high ground denouncing abortion and then whining about the kids getting your tax dollars.

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« Reply #58 on: June 20, 2008, 12:44:24 AM »
  Dakota;
   Conservatives normally have no problem feeding the truly needy, those who have no way of helping themselves.

   Where we differ from liberals is that we understand  the difference between, CANNOT help themselves and... WILL NOT help themselves !
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« Reply #59 on: June 21, 2008, 07:37:56 AM »
kev your reply #72 is my opinion as well, sad but true.
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