Turkish large ring small threads?

[j two dogs]

My gunsmith said my Turkish Mauser was a large ring small thread. I am wanting to make a .270 out of it. Midway sells the barrels for it. Is this action strong enough.
My smith says yes, but his yes was a little hesitant???

[gunnut69]

If the action is in good condition it will hold the 270 just fine. It may require a bit of work to get them to feed but not always.. The thread diameter has nothing to do with the strength of the action other than most small thread actions were in the pre 1898 models which are considered weaker than the 98 series actions,.,. I believe they were just about as strong but would agree they don't handle esxaping gas as well as a 98(neither does the pre-64 M70)!! That said the Turks put those rifles through a lot so I would consider magnafluxing the bolt and would check the locking abutments for setback.. I am assuming the smith you asked did the later.. I have a turk in the same format as yours in the shop...it's going to be a 7x57 when it grows up... Was going to bujild a 338 Federal but now have a different action for that./.

[j two dogs]

Thank-you for the assurance. I believe on that front crest it has stamped either beside or above Ankra, "1938", is this significant of when it was manufactured?

[gunnut69]

Most likely.. The M98 design is a very good one and is the basis for most modern hunting rifles.. Building a custom rifle is not cheap but the pleasure is great and you can get it your way.

[iiranger]

#1). .270 WCF was the original hot rod. Working pressure at 55K CUP from the start. That was "hot, hot, hot" for the 1926 introduction. Or 1925 some say. Great gun. Great history. But not for Rider Rollling Blocks, etc.
#2). De Haas has a standard I subscribe to. If the action was made before 1930 or 1920 if you wish to be generous, keep to the older, lower pressured standards. .30/'06 -- 45K CUP. .250 Savage. Etc. [A Mr. Titus, pre Mr. Ackley in his books, was equalling the .270 WCF with the .300 Savage necked to .270 with the pre WW II powders available!] If you can find a well made Mauser made after 1930, "go for it." Probably the most numbers made of any bolt rifle. Proofed in the 80K CUP range. Should handle reasonable .270 loads forever. Should. Luck.

[Judson]

   I build many custom rifles based on military 98Mauser actions and I would not use a Turkish 98 action.    As 98 Mausers go they are sort of at the bottom as far as desirability.    With the amount of work which has to be done in order to convert a military 98 to a sporter action, to me it seems the action is a poor choice to cut corners on.     My first choice would be a 1909 Argentine or one of the German actions, any of the FN actions would also be great.

[gunnut69]

Most of the turks were german made. Mauser werke had a contrqact with the turks and was constantly upgrading the contract with innovations... The usual problems with the turks is condition.. and that can be eaasily found.. If you're short on money and long on time and have a bit of patience and skill they can be made to work just fine. If building in any kind of a production environment Judson is likelty right.. I've work on a couple and the biggest problem was the atrosious condition they are found in.. of course I only gave $25 for the last one I bought.. I really think it's gonna be a 7x57 but maybe a 338 Federal..

[ken98k]

Turkish K-Kale Large ring, small barrel shank, 7X57